Princess Madeleine, Chris O'Neill & Family, General News Part 4,February 2021

[Silverpot]

Originally Posted by tihkon2

There's tax credits for US citizens living abroad though. SO he wouldn't be double taxed on the same money. He'd pay taxes to both countries but not on the same exact money.

Since he's not living and working in Sweden he doesn't pay tax here.



But my comment was more of a sarcasm, because Sweden is a high tax country and I don't think that appeals to Chris . Living in Florida means he gets to keep a substantially larger part of his income.

[stunking]

Makes sense for him to stay in Florida.

[maria-olivia]

Did Chris received the Order of the Serafim ?

[JR76]

Originally Posted by maria-olivia

Did Chris received the Order of the Serafim ?

No, because he turned down the offer of a royal title he was made a Commander of the Order of the Polar Star.

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by maria-olivia

Did Chris received the Order of the Serafim ?

No, he did not.

Under current regulations, the Order of the Seraphim can be awarded only to foreign Heads of State (or people of equivalent rank, like a queen consort for example), or to members of the Swedish Royal House. Chris does not fall into any of the two categories (please remember he is not a member of the Royal House).

However, Chris was made a Commander in the Order of the Polar Star, which can be awarded to any foreign citizen "for services to Sweden". As a Commander, he only wears the badge on a necklace, but doesn't have a sash or a star.

Prince Daniel has both the Order of the Seraphim and the Order of the Polar Star and he normally wears the Seraphim badge on a sash and the Polar Star badge on a necklet. You may have noticed, however, that Prince Daniel's Polar Star necklet is black, whereas Chris O'Neill's is blue with yellow bars. That is because, interestingly, the Order of the Polar Star has different ribbon colors for foreign and Swedish citizens respectively.


See this Wikipedia link with a picture of Mr O'Neill's Swedish insignias.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

No, he did not.

Under current regulations, the Order of the Seraphim can be awarded only to foreign Heads of State (or people of equivalent rank, like a queen consort for example), or to members of the Swedish Royal House. Chris does not fall into any of the two categories (please remember he is not a member of the Royal House).

Actually i think i can also given to foreign commoners, only not to Swedish and this is how Queen Silvia got it before her marriage when she still was a german citizen. And i think the same was done for Princess Lilian, only that she did not get the order of the Seraphim but the Order of the Polar Star.

[An Ard Ri]

Chris also received the Ruby jubilee and 70th Birthday medal of the king along with the Royal Order of the Polar Star

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Actually i think i can also given to foreign commoners, only not to Swedish and this is how Queen Silvia got it before her marriage when she still was a german citizen. And i think the same was done for Princess Lilian, only that she did not get the order of the Seraphim but the Order of the Polar Star.

The Order of the Polar Star can be given to any foreign citizen or stateless person. A former governor of the state of Michigan got it recently for example and also writers, scientists, musicians, etc. It actually has quite a lot of members, even post-1975.


The Order of the Seraphim on the other hand is restricted to Heads of State or people of equivalent rank.

1 § Inom Kungl. Serafimerorden kan utmärkelser tilldelas statschefer och därmed jämställda personer samt medlemmar av det svenska konungahuset. Förordning (1995:1025).

I am not familiar with Queen Silvia's case. Maybe the rationale was that she qualified as a (future) wife of a Head of State (making her a person of "equal rank"). Nowadays, she would qualify simply as a member of the Royal House, but that latter amendment to the ordinance was made only in 1995 (as shown above) when CP Victoria turned 18.

[JR76]

The only comment I've seen on Silvia receiving the Seraphim is that she had to get it before she became a Swedish citizen. No mention of her being a commoner.
The registry of His Majesty's Royal Order on her reads:"German citizen, Miss - Frgn - Silvia Renate Sommerlath - 1976 6/5." With an added comment "Proclaimed Swedish member 1/8 1995"

[LadyFinn]

"Her Royal Highness Princess Madeleine of Sweden and her family are back in the USA", information officer Ulrika Näsholm told BUNTE.de. When exactly they took the flight home, is not known.
Madeleine von Schweden_ Exklusiv_ Terminabsage und heimliche Abreise! _ BUNTE.de

[LadyFinn]

Margareta Thogren says to Expressen about Madeleine and her family that it has been a nice and good summer, but now everyday life is back. They have been in Sweden for a long period and especially on Öland. The focus has been first and foremost family and friends because it was a long time since they were in Sweden before that. They went back to USA in mid-August and have been back in their home in Florida for a few weeks now, the whole family. The children are back in school and everyday life has begun.
Prinsessan Madeleine har lämnat Sverige för Florida

[LadyFinn]

Bunte asked the court if Madeleine and family are coming to Sweden for Christmas. Information officer Ulrika Näsholm said: "Her Royal Highness Princess Madeleine and her family live in the USA. At the moment we don't have any information about when they will next visit Sweden".
Madeleine von Schweden_ Exklusiv_ Heimkehr zu Weihnachten_ Das sagt der Palast _ BUNTE.de

[LadyFinn]

Svensk Damtidning writes that after Madeleine and Chris's old house was subjected to a burglary when the family was not present, they moved and bought a 600 square meter dream villa, located in the Pinecrest area, which houses six bedrooms, eight bathrooms, a pool and a separate children's wing.
Even in the current area, they are not protected from crime. The Pinecrest police offer a so-called "crime map", available directly online. On it you can see what calls the police had to make near Chris and Madeleine. In the last four weeks alone, the police in the immediate area have been forced to deal with several cases of burglary, vehicle theft, vandalism and assault. Thankfully, Chris and Madeleine themselves have not been affected, but it is not one hundred percent safe area they live in.
Panik för Madeleine och Chris – polis tillkallad _*Svensk Dam

[LadyFinn]

Svensk Damtidning has again found information about Chris's company, this time not Wilton Payments, but Gloucester Rain LLP.
"The slap against Chris - the company is warned of bankruptcy!"
In May 2012, Chris became a partner in the company Dr Foster Holdings LLP which now goes by the name Gloucester Rain LLP.
According to Companies House, a government agency that handles company registration in England, Chris is still an active partner.
An analysis from the British credit institution Endole shows that it doesn't look very bright for the company. Last year, they gave the company 35 out of 100 on its credit rating scale, which is in the "bail mode" stage, which signals that the company may become insolvent within 12 months. In the latest update from Endole, the company is still down to 35 and is therefore considered to be at risk of bankruptcy.
An annual report shows that the company's total assets are almost 8.9 million pounds, a little over SEK 100 million, when the company was still called Dr Foster Holding's LLP, the total assets were over SEK 170 million.
Smällen mot Chris – företaget varnas för konkurs! _*Svensk Dam

[LadyFinn]

Herman Lindqvist, the private teacher for Victoria and Madeleine in the Swedish history, author of many books of royalty and columnist at Svensk Damtidning, writes about Madeleine, among other things:

Madeleine is the most fragile and shy in the royal family. She hates media and interviews. But her life has constantly created new headlines about love stories and a spectacularly broken engagement. She is the most criticized of all in the family.
She has been weak, but at the same time extremely strong in her most developed trait: stubbornness. No one has ever been able to force Madeleine to do anything. She has always finally got her way.
Lindqvist writes that for several years now, she has been living in Florida with her family. The pandemic has of course made travel to Sweden more difficult. But the fact is that she showed no great longing for Sweden before the pandemic either. The year before, she attended on twelve occasions, most of them related to her own book release or family events. As a Royal Highness, Princess of Sweden, Duchess of Hälsingland and Gästrikland, she still has obligations. According to Lindqvist, Madeleine has mismanaged her duchies, not visited them in two years, seemed to ignore what is happening there. (..)

Herman Lindqvist avslöjar sanningen – därför håller prinsessan Madeleine sig borta
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[iceflower]

A Halloween greeting from Princess Madeleine and her family:


** Instagram Post **

[Curryong]

They all look ready to party! Who’s the medieval skeleton character next to Chris, though?

[Moonmaiden23]

Chris and Madeleine's children are soo beautiful!

[Reinosa]

I love this family.

[iceflower]

Posts about Princess Madeleine and her family receiving the traditional Christmas trees today can be found at the „A Swedish Royal Christmas“-thread, double posts have been removed.