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All I can say is that they are the only ones who knows the reasons about the break up
the Queen and the Duke never said this. It was a rumor that someone was making a point on this matter....and it was probably the court jester.acdc1 said:That social classifing is SO British Royal Family. Somehow I think Her Majesty and The Duke have their names written all over this . They may not, but that's just my opinion.
People who have no connection with William, or Kate, or the Royal Family are coming out of the woodwork and presenting themselves as authoritative "commentators". The media eagerly laps them up and presents their views as 'fact' so that the story can keep on running for another few days.segolen said:the Queen and the Duke never said this. It was a rumor that someone was making a point on this matter....and it was probably the court jester.
Pleasedtomeetyou said:Even if it was a "mutual break-up" (what makes a break-up "mutual" - the only thing I can see is that one party does not put up much resistance when the other is suggesting a split....) it appears as if Kate did not take it as serious or permanent as William - otherwise the widely reported telephone conversation in the parking lot and Kate storming out of the office after the call is quite inexplicable.
I just read an interesting and quite entertaining comment - one quote from it:
Lets Hope Kate Is Not Left Damaged (from This Is Local London)
Pleasedtomeetyou said:Just to put an end to this bizarre Klaus Harmony-addiction article discussion, it would be helpful to note that it is from a satire website/magazine.
The Mail has a lengthy account of Kate's visit to the Mahiki, including a very detailed account of an alleged flirt with a young architect. Looks as if the Daily Mail is trying to make William jealous....
Flirty Kate had designs on me, says architect | the Daily Mail
Having given the whole thing second thoughts, I have come to the conclusion that Kate probably is too smart and thus intimidating for William and he feels that she would get the upper hand in a relationship - even more so as if he does not have an age advantage, so to speak, with both being the same age. With all due respect to the Royal Family, but they are all not exactly brilliant intellectuals and the same is obviously true for William. Kate is no bookworm either, but she has certainly done better during university than William and also has a family background that has apparently made her a tough cookie. It appears that over the past four or five years Kate has grown up much more than William who still appears to be a late teen/early twen - while Kate has become a serious young woman who has left boozing and senseless jokes behind her. Probably William feels more comfortable with a younger, less intelligent and demanding girl than with Catherine. Needless to say that in the long run some Kate-style blood injection would be more useful for the Royal Family than the genes of a B-list actress or model.
Chiyo said:A bit of damning never did anyone harm. When the Abdication crisis was under way, one of the courtiers said that the people want to look up to the King and other royals, not sideways, and certainly not down. As unfair as it is, people do hold the royals to a higher standard to this day, and William could (and is) finding himself in trouble because of his partying (even though it may be normal for other officers!) simply because of his station. It would serve him well to keep that in mind, especially as he approaches his 25th birthday, as comparisons will be made to the Queen who had already married, had children, carried out official duties, and would shortly ascend to the throne in the same time period. It's not fair, but what is fair and what actually happens rarely coincides.
ysbel said:I really wasn't talking about what's fair but the credibility of the statement.
I think its easier not to believe the facts of what someone else is saying when they use loaded words like that. People can blow you off a lot easier by saying you never liked so and so anyway so what you say doesn't matter.
Actually I think some of the facts of what she said was valid, although I didn't share in her pejorative view of William.
If people want to raise the adrenaline on the board and get people energized throwing out highly emotional terms can be useful.
Pleasedtomeetyou said:Apart from that, I am somewhat surprised that here it is seriously frowned upon if one simply states a fact about what William does. If he is heard saying "let's drink the menue" and acts accordingly, to me that is boozing.
Jo of Palatine said:Ysbel, I read the posting as that of another member with German as the mother tongue and for me it sounded just right - maybe you should put it to the difficulties of writing in a foreign language. But you're right mentioning how you felt when you read this posting - as not only BeatrixFan, Skydragon and myself learned a long time a go: it is better to be very careful with your wording here because of the way others may perceive what you wrote and that makes these forums such a pleasant place to visit day after day.
Jo does make a very good point, I find myself trying hard not to phrase my queries in such a way that they can be misunderstood. The English gallows humour or even ordinary English/Scottish humour is not shared by many countries. I find myself hesitating when asking for the 'facts' behind a statement, somewhere I can read in what context and to whom, something was supposed to have been said. There are even vast differences between American English and UK English.ysbel said:You make a good point Jo. I'm trying to translate some scenes from a German movie and even with the help of some German friends and the fact that English is my native language its still very difficult. I think if I had to write all my posts in German, some things would definitely not come off right.
How many drinks would it take to cost 11K? Would even be possible to have that large a tab at a bar?Pleasedtomeetyou said:All we have seen of him is getting totally drunk last weekend, allegedly burning 11K on money on drinks, while Kate carefully made sure she was seen in public smiling, looking stunning, controlled, mature, almost as if she wants to demonstrate that it is indeed his loss, not hers.
They were said to have ran up a drinks bill of more than £5,000 for magnums of £800 Dom Perignon champagne, £500 on "Treasure Chest" cocktails, and drinks for other clubbers.
They got the same 2:1 degree in History of Art and Geography rescepctively. As to to the boozing she still goes night clubing and besides it unusal for young officers to drink as it also not unusal for young men.Pleasedtomeetyou said:With all due respect to the Royal Family, but they are all not exactly brilliant intellectuals and the same is obviously true for William. Kate is no bookworm either, but she has certainly done better during university than William and also has a family background that has apparently made her a tough cookie. It appears that over the past four or five years Kate has grown up much more than William who still appears to be a late teen/early twen - while Kate has become a serious young woman who has left boozing and senseless jokes behind her.
ysbel said:What strikes me is that ordering rare and expensive magnums of Dom Perignon in America would seem very pretentious and not very cool among young men - even those that could afford it. They'd order a rare and lethal tequila instead!
So really we are talking a bill of £5500, do we know how many people he was with? If it was the normal (6, I believe), that is only £833 each. If you think that a 75cl bottle of Cristal can start around £500 a bottle, they were economical!Pleasedtomeetyou said:I shall hasten to add that the 11K figure is USD, not GBP, and that nobody has actually seen the bill.
Thanks for the article. Maybe in a couple years if she isn't married they will get back together who knows. You never can tell these days. Maybe they just needed a break to step back from the press pressure and take stock. Maybe he needs a year to see what it's like with women throwing themselves at him just for cash and tiara? Let's hope he doesn't end up like Prince Albert with two kids not in line to the throne and mothers looking for a steady paycheck for life. JMOSkydragon said:TOFF BREAK FOR WILLS? MORE LIKE BAD TIMING
I HAVE tried really hard to believe that Kate Middleton is a victim of royal snobbery but somehow I just can't manage it.
Mirror.co.uk - News - Top Stories - TOFF BREAK FOR WILLS? MORE LIKE BAD TIMING
An earlier report in this thread claimed the bar tab was £800, which is a long way from US$11,000.Pleasedtomeetyou said:I shall hasten to add that the 11K figure is USD, not GBP, and that nobody has actually seen the bill.