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Old 10-29-2013, 07:44 PM
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Sorry - what is the point of William seeing live operations? Apart from giving the press the opportunity to mention his mother (which I dont think is the case)?

I've never SEEN an operation but I know the work, dedication and stress it causes for the surgical team. As a patient I've known the stress it caused me. Just don't see the point.
I agree - seems rather odd. A big ick factor. Surgery is serious business. Can you image if anything goes wrong during the surgery? Even if it has nothing to with his being present, many people will believe his presence was distracting.
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Oh here we go again. Can't William do ANYTHING right.
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:02 PM
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I'm guessing he'll be in the operating room or in the gallery overlooking the operations.
William will be in the OR with the nurses and doctors. He will likely see the surgery on television monitors, or from a safe distance but still able to view - his height will definitely come in handy here. Modern hospitals no longer have galleries and I would be very surprised if any OR in the western world has a gallery.

I work with surgeons and have been in the OR, as an observer not a patient, in a number of facilities and can speak to this with a certain amount of authority (for anyone who wants me to cite my sources ).
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:04 PM
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Sorry - what is the point of William seeing live operations? Apart from giving the press the opportunity to mention his mother (which I dont think is the case)?

I've never SEEN an operation but I know the work, dedication and stress it causes for the surgical team. As a patient I've known the stress it caused me. Just don't see the point.
Being able to see what is done in the OR is quite exciting and extremely impressive. Your perspective is vastly different than even an observer. I think it's great he will get the opportunity to observe a surgical procedure, it's to bad not everyone else can.
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:05 PM
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Oh here we go again. Can't William do ANYTHING right.
Whooaaaa! Of course he can, all I want to know is why he is doing this? I cant see what the purpose is. I like that engagements have a purpose. Ususally if a royal wants to know how something works/happens it is a private visit, so this (to me) begs the question why?

I really think that William is trying v hard to overcome the almost claustophobic life of a royal - he has another 50 years of this? I think he is ok and I'm generally in his court.

I haven't said it's wrong - I have asked why? Big difference

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Being able to see what is done in the OR is quite exciting and extremely impressive. Your perspective is vastly different than even an observer. I think it's great he will get the opportunity to observe a surgical procedure, it's to bad not everyone else can.
Thank you for your 2 posts. It helps clarify why he wouyld be doing this. I wasn't asking to be contrary, I just wanted to understand. Appreciate your detailed response.

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William will be in the OR with the nurses and doctors. He will likely see the surgery on television monitors, or from a safe distance but still able to view - his height will definitely come in handy here. Modern hospitals no longer have galleries and I would be very surprised if any OR in the western world has a gallery.

I work with surgeons and have been in the OR, as an observer not a patient, in a number of facilities and can speak to this with a certain amount of authority (for anyone who wants me to cite my sources ).
Well I've been a patient and cant remember a thing!

This = happiness.
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:11 PM
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Thank you for your 2 posts. It helps clarify why he wouyld be doing this. I wasn't asking to be contrary, I just wanted to understand. Appreciate your detailed response.
You're welcome! I love surgery and while working with surgeons can be a pain in the arse, I realize that comes with the territory. It really amazes me how doing an operation can in some cases cure a person's problem or alleviate symptoms.

I didn't think you were being contrary, and I apologize if my post came across like that.
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:12 PM
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Well I've been a patient and cant remember a thing!

This = happiness.
It's probably best that way. Or, those were some really good drugs your doctors used.
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:24 PM
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I always LOVE the anaesthetist - always a girls best friend. Buyt my abiding memory is coming round and it hurt (low pain threshold) and yellling at my Dr "you said it wouldn't hurt" and him holding my hand, winking and saying "I lied". Nearly bust my stitches laughing!
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:30 PM
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You're spot on there. This man has the 'people' skills most politicians and public figures would only dream of possessing, and his compassion, and kind heart only add to this charm.



This will be an interesting visit for sure. I'm glad William is taking such interest in the happenings of his charities, as well as in those who benefit from them. Says a lot about him as a human being.



You're spot on again. I give him a great deal of credit for being able to do something like this. I know that I have trouble staying calm when students get a scratch with a drop of blood, so to watch an entire operation would probably send me to the nearest Emergency Room, due to a fainting spell.
First- Nice article. Love the photo of Diana. She looks divine.
@ Daria- about my quotes- Thank you! You are able to express my thoughts better than I can sometimes. Very handy.
As to why William should do this- to be a hands on patron. You want to know about homelessness, you visit a homeless shelter, Aids an AIDS ward, addiction a treatment center, life after jail a youth charity end of life care a hospice. Hospital you see surgery. When William meets people in the future, who have been through that, he can connect to them with ease. Just my thoughts.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:43 PM
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The Express article said the William is going to meet the surgical team but not the patients whose surgery is going to watch but KP didn't rule out him meeting them at a later date.
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:18 PM
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Sorry if this puts a damper on this for some - but what is the point?
As someone who works in the medical education world, I think it'd be cool for leaders and politicians to watch the work of a hospital or operating theater - only then, can they see the type of coordination that needs to happen and the resources that go into quality care.

Also, the fact that the Duke will be witnessing a breast reconstruction is huge, since that field of plastic surgery is currently undergoing a revolution that is hugely important to millions of women all over the world. The Express article mentioned that the other procedure is pretty innovative, too, but I just don't know as much about it. Hopefully, this visit raises awareness for these procedures.
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:20 PM
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William is president of the Royal Marsden Hospital. Why is he doing this? Who knows? Maybe he's trying to get a feel for different areas of the hospital. I've had two operations in my lifetime, and don't remember a thing about them, but back in the day when the Discovery Channel aired surgeries, I usually watched. Some people find surgery fascinating. Back on topic, there's no doubt the two patients whose surgeries William will observe have signed consent forms. I doubt the fact that they'll be observed will be kept secret from them.
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:40 PM
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William is president of the Royal Marsden Hospital. Why is he doing this? Who knows? Maybe he's trying to get a feel for different areas of the hospital. I've had two operations in my lifetime, and don't remember a thing about them, but back in the day when the Discovery Channel aired surgeries, I usually watched. Some people find surgery fascinating. Back on topic, there's no doubt the two patients whose surgeries William will observe have signed consent forms. I doubt the fact that they'll be observed will be kept secret from them.
It did say in the article that they have already consented to it.
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REMINDER: The Duke of Cambridge, President, The Royal Marsden NHS Foundation Trust, will visit The Royal Marsden on Nov 7
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:00 AM
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Photo: Prince William arriving at The Royal Marsden and being greeted by Chief Executive Cally Palmer pic.twitter.com/FV5DFODyv0

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Prince William update: he's now at 2nd operation (bladder surgery). Mr Pardeep Kumar's explaining what's happened so far and what's to come.

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It's Prince William's visit today so we dug out some old photos of him and his mother at The Royal Marsden: http://www.royalmarsden.org/prince-william?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_term=prince_william&utm_campaign=general_charity …

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Prince William update: he's arrived, changed into scrubs and now he's viewing the first of two operations, a breast reconstruction

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He also chatted with staff and shared a joke about the number of qualifications they have to get.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:30 AM
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Photo: Prince William looking on while Mr Pardeep Kumar and team perform bladder surgery pic.twitter.com/FYRUz4KjxJ

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Prince William at the Royal Marsden. pic.twitter.com/OJC9ub6jz7

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"How was it William?" asks@skynewsroyal. "Good. Still standing," says William, holding his tummy.
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The Duke of Cambridge has hailed the "incredible" work of two surgical teams as he watched live operations at one of the world's leading cancer-specialist hospitals. William visited the Royal Marsden in Chelsea, west London, where he viewed sections of a breast reconstruction procedure and the removal of a bladder tumour involving two patients. He was following in the footsteps of his mother, Diana, Princess of Wales, after she watched a heart operation at Harefield Hospital in Middlesex in 1996-
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:35 PM
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The Royal Marsden ‏@royalmarsden 27m
Photo: Prince William arriving at The Royal Marsden and being greeted by Chief Executive Cally Palmer pic.twitter.com/FV5DFODyv0

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Prince William update: he's now at 2nd operation (bladder surgery). Mr Pardeep Kumar's explaining what's happened so far and what's to come.

The Royal Marsden ‏@royalmarsden 2h
It's Prince William's visit today so we dug out some old photos of him and his mother at The Royal Marsden: http://www.royalmarsden.org/prince-william?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_term=prince_william&utm_campaign=general_charity …

The Royal Marsden ‏@royalmarsden 33m
Prince William update: he's arrived, changed into scrubs and now he's viewing the first of two operations, a breast reconstruction

The Royal Marsden ‏@royalmarsden 32m
He also chatted with staff and shared a joke about the number of qualifications they have to get.
Like mother like son. Made me teary. If Diana was the Queen of Hearts, then William will be the King of Compassion. And he looks good in OR gear! I didn't realize this, but William did volunteer work at the Royal Marsden in the past. Why am I not surprised it was in the children's ward? Bet he was amazing, keeping them company, playing and reading with them, bringing treats and a smile. As a former PICU kid, Prince William as a play therapist- would have been heavenly.
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Goodness me William has been busy it's hard to keep up.
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