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Old 02-18-2018, 06:01 PM
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Good God, people sharing their opinions is not bullying. Why is it that anytime someone dares to critique Catherine, its akin to bullying?

IMO, her and KP judged this wrong. Doesn't make her an awful person, but it does some a serious lack of understanding IMO which happens to every one in the public eye on occasion even Catherine.

Also, "whataboutism" is gross. Just because some people don't live up to their proclaimed values doesn't excuse the tone deafness of the Cambridges. These people are being dragged way more than the Cambridges all one needs to do is go to twitter or other spaces to see that. So no, people are not ONLY targeting the Cambridges while excusing hollywood. As this is a royal board, people are commenting on the royal in question and her fashion choice or lackthereof.

I should also say that if William gives his usual speech and makes no acknowledgement of the issue, I think that is an even bigger issue than the dress.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:04 PM
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Good God, people sharing their opinions is not bullying. Why is it that anytime someone dares to critique Catherine, its akin to bullying?

IMO, her and KP judged this wrong. Doesn't make her an awful person, but it does some a serious lack of understanding IMO which happens to every one in the public eye on occasion even Saint Catherine.

Also, "whataboutism" is gross. Just because some people don't live up to their proclaimed values doesn't excuse the tone deafness of the Cambridges. These people are being dragged way more than the Cambridges all one needs to do is go to twitter or other spaces to see that. So no, people are not ONLY targeting the Cambridges while excusing hollywood.
I can't speak for everyone but of course we're all allowed to share our opinions, and are free to be critical of others in a respectful way - though personally attacking Catherine (or anyone, for that matter) is not respectful and not representing feminism, IMO. There's a difference between respectful criticism and bullying (which is attacks etc) and I personally was focusing on those who have attacked her on all areas of social media.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:07 PM
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I can't speak for everyone but of course we're all allowed to share our opinions, and are free to be critical of others in a respectful way - though personally attacking Catherine (or anyone, for that matter) is not respectful and not representing feminism, IMO. There's a difference between respectful criticism and bullying (which is attacks etc) and I personally was focusing on those who have attacked her on all areas of social media.
Where has anyone on this forum personally attacked Catherine? People have critiqued her fashion choice, but no one is saying she is a bad person or supports sexual assault.

What happens outside the forum isn't germane. But for what its worth, I have seen people express disappointment on social media, but hardly attacked Catherine.

I know this is getting OT. I have said my part so I will just bow out.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:12 PM
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Where has anyone on this forum personally attacked Catherine? People have critiqued her fashion choice, but no one is saying she is a bad person or supports sexual assault.

What happens outside the forum isn't germane. But for what its worth, I have seen people express disappointment on social media, but hardly attacked Catherine.

I know this is getting OT. I have said my part so I will just bow out.
I wasn't talking about on this forum. I was talking about other social media networks such as Twitter, etc. On this forum people have been respectful.

Please don't interpret my post like that, I wasn't criticising anyone on here. I'm not one of those people who doesn't like any criticisms of her, since we are all allowed to share our opinions. Again, my post wasn't meant in that way and even if you have bowed out I hope you can read this and understand where I'm coming from. I'm not a crazy "please don't attack her!!!" person. If you read my post properly you will have noticed that I said "social media" and I do not classify this forum as social media, personally.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:12 PM
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To just show you how ridiculous all of this, you wear black you condemn sexual abuse, don’t wear black and you’re supporting sexual abuse?

I’m really happy Catherine didn’t wear black. Leave the virtue signalling to others.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:14 PM
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Also, "whataboutism" is gross. Just because some people don't live up to their proclaimed values doesn't excuse the tone deafness of the Cambridges.
Sure, but I also find it gross that there has been so much focus on what celebs are wearing. This movement is about the survivors of sexual assault/harassment, not who wore what on the the red carpet. So I couldn't care less if a celeb shows up in a black outfit and don't think Kate is out of touch for choosing not to wear black.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:15 PM
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Catherine wearing dark green is a major social problem,
Perhaps just read that again, and THINK ?
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:17 PM
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To just show you how ridiculous all of this, you wear black you condemn sexual abuse, don’t wear black and you’re supporting sexual abuse?

I’m really happy Catherine didn’t wear black. Leave the virtue signalling to others.
I don't think anything is saying she supports abuse because she wore green. That's a little extreme and honestly in the same vein as the criticism against her.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:19 PM
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I agree. Catherine wearing dark green is a major social problem, it's what makes the BRF look tone-deaf. Certainly not the BRF's continued support of Andrew, that's not a problem. I'm glad we're pointing fingers at women instead of accused men, makes me proud to be a feminist.


You are glad that people are pointing fingers? I’m sorry but if that makes you a feminist then I wouldn’t name myself a feminist.

Any woman can wear whatever they want. To ‘point fingers’ at someone because they made their own choice of clothing is one of the least feminist things I can imagine.

Imagine a world where women built themselves up instead of telling each other what to do, wear, say etc. This whole debacle over a dress makes a joke of feminism.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:20 PM
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Then the colour of a dress shouldn’t matter. I know Catherine supports victims of sexual harassment.

She doesn’t need to wear black to ‘prove’ it to me.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:21 PM
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Guys, I’m pretty sure miss whirley was being sarcastic. It doesn’t translate well on the internet.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:30 PM
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Kudos to Kate for not bowing to bullying on such a ridiculous made up Hollywood non issue. How many of these people throwing fits over sexual assault sat idly by while children including young boys were sexually exploited? And I'm glad people are calling out the hypocrisy of these women who stay silent when their friends, Roman and Woody, are involved.
Kate can do more to help ALL victims of assault through her charity work. As a woman and mother of a son and daughter she is probably concerned with the safety of ALL those who are at risk.

Modern feminism breathes off of bullying especially from women towards women.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:34 PM
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Prince William does appear to make reference to the Hollywood sex abuse scandal here - in a foreword to the BAFTA programme. Pays tribute to the "brave people" who "spoke up about bullying, harassment and abuse". Didn't use the word "women" but can surely only mean #TimesUp*

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Old 02-18-2018, 06:36 PM
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Guys, I’m pretty sure miss whirley was being sarcastic. It doesn’t translate well on the internet.
Yes, I was being sarcastic as evidenced on the previous page when I explained my real viewpoint on this so called "dress code". But I'm not surprised that some read my second post without sarcasm, because that's exactly the type of ridiculous criticism that women are facing in this so-called movement. One that puts more demands on women to change rather than on the men to change.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:36 PM
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Glad he referenced it as the President of the awards.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:42 PM
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Prince William does appear to make reference to the Hollywood sex abuse scandal here - in a foreword to the BAFTA programme. Pays tribute to the "brave people" who "spoke up about bullying, harassment and abuse". Didn't use the word "women" but can surely only mean #TimesUp*

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Clearly there are ways to offer support without gimmick clothing
Of course he wouldn't use the word women. As we learned with Terry Crews and the victims of Kevin Spacey, etc.. there were male victims too who bravely spoke up.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:42 PM
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Brave people ...that was well phrased...because it's men too not just women who face abuse and harassment at the hands of sexual predators.



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Old 02-18-2018, 06:44 PM
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Brave people ...that was well phrased...because it's men too not just women who face abuse and harassment at the hands of sexual predators.



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THANK YOU!!!!! I for one think Corey Feldman has truth behind his crazy rantings.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:46 PM
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THANK YOU!!!!! I for one think Corey Feldman has truth behind his crazy rantings.

That's exactly who I was thinking of too! People tried to say he was crazy or making stuff up etc. I think they are forced to reconsider what he said now.

Terrible how they treat folks who try and stand up.

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Old 02-18-2018, 06:53 PM
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Why all this fuss about The Duchess of Cambridge wearing green? So she doesn’t take part in the political “Time's Up protest” - Now she is abused online! This is McCarthyism-style bullying of the worst kind. Why must she make a political statement? Her work speaks for itself.

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