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Old 06-19-2021, 01:51 PM
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Misbehaviing children should be told off asap. But William laughed at Charlotte because he probalby dislikes the press as much as he ever did.... However not a good idea.
Right, because they tend to forget what they did wrong. When they're not told immediately about their wrong behaviour they think they were right. When they're told off later they cannot relate anymore to the said scene.
Kate should know that^^
I btw found it totally off that she laughed when Charlotte sticked her tongue out on that boat.
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Old 06-19-2021, 01:52 PM
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She was three years old and stating her mind. That's a little young to be considered rude. It's why nobody takes offense at what toddlers say. How would you even "discipline" that? Charlotte would have to understand that she shouldn't talk to photographers, but why? Again, she was a little young to comprehend the ramifications of the whole thing. I'm at a loss with these calls for punishment and how it reflects on her parents.
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Old 06-19-2021, 01:56 PM
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Right, because they tend to forget what they did wrong. When they're not told immediately about their wrong behaviour they think they were right. When they're told off later they cannot relate anymore to the said scene.
Kate should know that^^
I btw found it totally off that she laughed when Charlotte sticked her tongue out on that boat.
Would you really have wanted William and Catherine to scold Charlotte in front of the press for a rather innocent comment on a walk of 20 seconds. If they would have wanted to warn her not to say such things in the future, that could easily wait a few seconds until they were outside of the eye of the press (although I personally don't think that was needed).

And I seem to recall Catherine talking somewhat sternly to Charlotte on Pippa's wedding to make sure that she behaved herself. In general they are very well-behaved children so I don't think anyone needs to worry about their upbringing.
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Old 06-19-2021, 01:57 PM
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She was three years old and stating her mind. That's a little young to be considered rude. It's why nobody takes offense at what toddlers say. How would you even "discipline" that? Charlotte would have to understand that she shouldn't talk to photographers, but why? Again, she was a little young to comprehend the ramifications of the whole thing. I'm at a loss with these calls for punishment and how it reflects on her parents.
It reflects on her parents the same way that William's awful behavior at Andrew's wedding reflected on his. Laughing at misbehaviour doesn't send a good message to children....If she was old enough to pick up that "they couldn't come in", I think she was old enough to be told, " you dont speak like that to people" and "you dont stick your tongue out at people."
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Old 06-19-2021, 02:17 PM
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Would you really would have wanted William and Catherine to scold Charlotte in front of the press for a rather innocent comment on a walk of 20 seconds. If they would have wanted to warn her not to say such things in the future, that could easily wait a few seconds until they were outside of the eye of the press (although I personally don't think that was needed).

And I seem to recall Catherine talking somewhat sternly to Charlotte on Pippa's wedding to make sure that she behaved herself. In general they are very well-behaved children so I don't think anyone needs to worry about their upbringing.
Of course not a scolding down, but showing the press and the world that they laugh about "misbehaviour" doesnt send the right message.
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Old 06-19-2021, 02:28 PM
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Well, I for myself am glad that they are not trying to raise puppets who are afraid to make the smallest kind of misstep. In this specific instance I think the comment could be interpreted differently (as evidenced by this thread) so a minor smile (not noticed by Charlotte) isn't problematic in my book. Sticking out her tongue was a bit more troublesome but might have been dealt with in private at a later moment as well. Should Catherine have laughed, probably not, but sometimes parents cannot help by laughing while they know they shouldn't (my sister-in-law just recalled such an anecdote a few days ago). Starting a potential fight about it in front of the press will certainly be worse for parents and child as that will be talked about forever.
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Old 06-19-2021, 02:32 PM
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Of course not a scolding down, but showing the press and the world that they laugh about "misbehaviour" doesnt send the right message.
well if Cath can talk firmly to Charlotte to make sure she behaves at a wedding, she can also tell her that she's misbehaved at a christening..
Even if it was difficult to tlle her off in that moment, laughing at it, DID indeed send the wrong message.
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Old 06-19-2021, 02:34 PM
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Even royal children are children. I give all royal children a pass. It's what they choose to do as an adult that matters. Personally, I think it's good that royal kids get public experience, and that means sometimes they will make mistakes.

I try my best as a mother, but I certainly have had instances where my kids have done something wrong in public. And I have made many mistakes as a mother.
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Old 06-19-2021, 02:38 PM
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well if Cath can talk firmly to Charlotte to make sure she behaves at a wedding, she can also tell her that she's misbehaved at a christening..
Even if it was difficult to tlle her off in that moment, laughing at it, DID indeed send the wrong message.
Well then, let's all jump in the time machine and go back to that moment and give everyone a good telling-off.

This happened years ago. And the child was three years old. You find me an example of a perfect three year old who never misbehaves.
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Old 06-19-2021, 02:40 PM
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well if Cath can talk firmly to Charlotte to make sure she behaves at a wedding, she can also tell her that she's misbehaved at a christening..
Even if it was difficult to tlle her off in that moment, laughing at it, DID indeed send the wrong message.
You really think Catherine carrying Louis from his christening should have bent down to give Charlotte a stern look instead of paying hardly any attention to it and keep walking until they were out of sight 10 seconds later?!

Luckily Catherine was much wiser and only looked mildly amused to William; there was no 'laughing' involved. In no way did they encourage Charlotte's behavior as she was wisely ignored while William made sure she kept walking by holding her hand.
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Well then, let's all jump in the time machine and go back to that moment and give everyone a good telling-off.

This happened years ago. And the child was three years old. You find me an example of a perfect three year old who never misbehaves.
That's not the point. THe point is that instead of telling her off, at times, when she idd things like stick out her tongue, her parents laughed at it.
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Old 06-19-2021, 02:42 PM
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Even royal children are children. I give all royal children a pass. It's what they choose to do as an adult that matters. Personally, I think it's good that royal kids get public experience, and that means sometimes they will make mistakes.

I try my best as a mother, but I certainly have had instances where my kids have done something wrong in public. And I have made many mistakes as a mother.
Exactly. And royal children also need to be able to make mistakes. It is one of the things king Willem-Alexander stressed in his 50th birthday interview (mostly regarding to the teenage years of their daughters). While of course, royals prefer those mistakes not to be made in public, they also need to be able to learn from their mistakes. Pretending they are perfect is surely not a healthy approach.

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That's not the point. THe point is that instead of telling her off, at times, when she idd things like stick out her tongue, her parents laughed at it.
That's one time; and while it might not have been the best way to defuse the situation, it seemed to have worked as Charlotte was smoothly removed and did not repeat her behavior. Rewatching that video Catherine did tell her off and moved her ahead; she clearly had a 'WHAT did my daughter just do?'-moment; which I guess happens to all parents. The headlines at that time were that 'Catherine was shocked'. I wouldn't be surprised if Catherine followed up on that later on to make sure that Charlotte knew fully well that she was not supposed to do that again (which of course she knew but that's part of being a child and testing your boundaries).

What other events do you recall in which their children clearly misbehaved and were encouraged to continue their behavior? The christening isn't one of them - and now I've looked up the 'stick tongue out' video I am not too concerned about that one either.
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That's not the point. THe point is that instead of telling her off, at times, when she idd things like stick out her tongue, her parents laughed at it.

So you'd rather have them scold their child in front of a mass of photographers, to be captured on film for all time, potentially embarrassing Charlotte when she got old enough to understand her actions, than just giving it an exasperated laugh and waiting until they got somewhere private to talk to her? Wow.
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Old 06-19-2021, 02:45 PM
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There is no need to spend pages and pages criticizing a 3 year old child’s behavior. Let’s move on.
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Old 06-19-2021, 04:04 PM
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These children have unusual situation. They are in the public eye and among the most famous children in the world. I think being with Kate's family and being with the maternal grandparents (non royals) is of some help.
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Old 06-19-2021, 08:27 PM
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Catherine and William won't be perfect parents but whatever they are doing is working.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Their three are happy, respectful and engaged from what I see. They are lovely children.
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Prince Louis - Public Events

Is it me or is Prince Louis not as prominent as his brother and sister are?

He doesn't go to events, we have very few photographs of him.

Wonder why?
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Old 06-20-2021, 02:32 PM
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Is it me or is Prince Louis not as prominent as his brother and sister are?

He doesn't go to events, we have very few photographs of him.

Wonder why?
Probably because Louis only turned 3 in April. It's possible that he doesn't go to events like we see today with William and his older children because, frankly, he may not even be fully toilet trained yet.
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Old 06-20-2021, 02:35 PM
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Is it me or is Prince Louis not as prominent as his brother and sister are?

He doesn't go to events, we have very few photographs of him.

Wonder why?
Coud be because he's a baby, practically....
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Old 06-20-2021, 03:17 PM
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I mean, after reading this board the past 24 hours, it's not much of a mystery to me why Louis isn't attending events until he is a little older, since his every behavior will be dissected for years to come, and his parents forever judged for them.

I sincerely doubt Louis is off in a dungeon. He's probably having a special "Mommy and Me" day with Kate.

(Also, as any parent with 3+ kids knows: it's a different ballgame when you don't have enough hands. )
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