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Old 08-30-2016, 01:43 AM
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Does anyone think that the UK media will ever REGULARLY refer to Kate Middleton as the Duchess of Cambridge and Pippa Middleton - in time - as Lady Glenaffric ?
I doubt Pippa will ever go by Lady Glenaffric. James doesn't use a title and it's a purchased title.

She would sound pretty absurd if she insisted on calling herself that and it doesn't seem to be her style.
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Old 08-30-2016, 01:51 AM
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No, I don't think they will, as far as Kate's concerned, I believe she'll still be KM for years. At least when she is Princess of Wales the media might feel there's no alternative but to address her with her proper title.

To be fair, it's as much an indulgence of the ignorance of the general public in Britain and elsewhere as some quirk of journalists that she is still called Kate Middleton. That was the name under which she became known to the public at large and I think the media believes many wouldn't know who they were writing/talking about if they didn't put Kate Middleton in there.

As for Pippa, this lairdship was one purchased by David Matthews when he bought an estate up in Scotland. As such it might not be taken seriously by the British media, and there are probably too many variables anyway to make a guess at whether Pippa will be Lady Glenaffric in future years. The land might be sold on and the lairdship with it. Scotland might well vote for independence sooner than later, followed by a referendum on the monarchy in Scotland. Titles might be abolished, who knows. David's wife Jane isn't known as Lady Glenaffric as far as I can tell, so it doesn't appear that this is taken too seriously in the Matthews family anyway.
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Old 08-30-2016, 02:04 AM
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Be rather ridiculous for Pippa to use one of the "lord of the manor" titles which are not peerages and dont mean anything. lets hope she has more sense.
As for kate, I think it is mostly on the Net that she's referred to as Kate Midd.. I usually see "Kate" or The Duchess of Camb.
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Old 08-30-2016, 02:31 AM
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Page 3 of the Scottish Daily Mail (July 22nd) stated that Pippa was entitled to be addressed as Lady Glen Affric once her fiancé inherits his father's Lairdship. James Matthews is already the "solitary manager of the 10,000 acre Glen Affric Estate".
Do you think that the UK Media will refer to her by this courtesy title - they seldom call Kate the Duchess of Cambridge.
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Old 08-30-2016, 02:34 AM
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Page 3 of the Scottish Daily Mail (July 22nd) stated that Pippa was entitled to be addressed as Lady Glen Affric once her fiancé inherits his father's Lairdship. James Matthews is already the "solitary manager of the 10,000 acre Glen Affric Estate".
Do you think that the UK Media will refer to her by this courtesy title - they seldom call Kate the Duchess of Cambridge.
I could be wrong, but I think possibly this user is a bot. This same question was asked twice in this thread and then again on my public user profile.
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:30 AM
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The use of Kate Middleton, usually in addition to the Duchess of Cambridge, by the media is all about one thing, and it's easily summed up in one chart:

https://www.google.com/trends/explor...of%20cambridge
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:37 AM
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It could be that there is sometimes confusion between the Duchess of Cambridge, and the Duchess of Cornwall?
I am familiar with the titles and yet sometimes I have to look at the headline twice.


As for Pippa, I heard somewhere that the wedding is scheduled for February.
Don't know how accurate that is.
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:49 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Pippa wanting a winter wedding in Switzerland actually. James's half-sister and her family live there (I think they're tax exiles) and Pippa being a keen skier obviously doesn't mind the cold. I believe Kate, William and Harry went to a snowy Swiss wedding of one of their friends when Kate was pregnant, and it did look spectacular. Jan/Feb might be about right.
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Old 08-31-2016, 01:39 AM
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I doubt Pippa will ever go by Lady Glenaffric. James doesn't use a title and it's a purchased title.

She would sound pretty absurd if she insisted on calling herself that and it doesn't seem to be her style.
It's James' father who holds the title not James? It will pass on to him when his father dies.
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Old 08-31-2016, 01:17 PM
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The 'Pippa effect'

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Old 08-31-2016, 01:36 PM
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It's James' father who holds the title not James? It will pass on to him when his father dies.
It will pass to which of his 3 kids he leaves it to. Or who he sells it to, it simply goes with owning land.
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Old 08-31-2016, 06:04 PM
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Hmmm ..... true, so why then the musings of Lady Pippa on the thread?
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Old 09-04-2016, 03:16 AM
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A challenging chapter for Pippa Middleton's book business, writes GIRL ABOUT TOWN: | Daily Mail Online

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The bride-to-be, the mother of the bride and perhaps even THE dress? Celebrity designer Giles Deacon visits Pippa and Carole Middleton at home, carrying some very special packages | Daily Mail Online

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Old 09-04-2016, 12:23 PM
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USA $65,000 a year for someone with no apparent bills ok. Many households live on that or less.
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:23 AM
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Old 09-05-2016, 10:11 PM
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Countessmeot seems to not understand the way the landed gentry work. David Matthews is the current laird of Glen Affric. He apparently does not use the title. His son James, is listed at the UK companies house records as the "solitary managing director of the 10,000 acre estate". Hence, it is James, not his brother Spencer, or half- sister Nina, who will inherit the management and indeed the estate itself. This was reported in many, many media outlets last month. It means that - should she choose to do so - Pippa will one day be given the courtesy title Lady Glenaffric - as widely reported.
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Old 09-06-2016, 12:25 AM
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Hmmm ..... true, so why then the musings of Lady Pippa on the thread?
Who is Lady Pippa? Philippa Middleton is not and probably never will be Lady Philippa.. unless her father is granted an earldom. Unlikely....
thte "title" that her future husband has, is not a real title and it would be very silly for her to use it...
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Old 09-06-2016, 12:30 AM
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The Matthews are not a landed gentry family and the estate in Scotland owned by David Matthews is not a landed estate as it is understood in Britain, (that is an estate purchased by an ancestor or granted to him by a King in days gone by, and subject to the laws of promigenture in which an estate is handed down for generation after generation from father to eldest son, or nephew or other nearest male heir.)

This piece of land was bought by David Matthews some years ago as a purely commercial venture, in order to develop a luxury hotel complex on it. The Matthews family don't live there. They live in Switzerland and in London. With this piece of land came a lairdship (a purchase.)

Yes, James Matthews may well manage this hotel and the land around it for his father, who is by now probably semi-retired. However, that does not mean that when David Matthews dies his eldest son James will (as happens with landed families) gain the family lands, estates and properties. He may do, he may not.

Spencer Matthews, James's brother stated in an interview that his father does not intend to leave huge amounts of wealth to his children. He believes apparently, in offspring making their own way in life. Therefore, when David passes he may choose to state in his will that all his different business enterprises such as Eden Roc and the complex in Scotland be sold off and the proceeds left to a charitable foundation or to his widow or to another relative altogether.

That property in Scotland isn't entailed (as far as we know) and David is under no obligation whatsoever to leave it to James. He may choose to leave it to him as a business venture, he may not. He himself doesn't use the lairdship title and James himself may or may not use it even if the Highland hotel is left to him to administer.

It's in the lap of the gods, or rather the choice of David Matthews, as to whether his son will be owner of the estate in the Highlands or not in another ten or twenty years. If he isn't then the lairdship will go to the new owner.
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Old 09-06-2016, 12:48 AM
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Even if he does inherit, it is not a real title. It is not a peerage, did not have the right to a seat in the Lords etc and it would IMO look silly for Pippa or whoever inherits the land to use it.
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Old 09-06-2016, 06:25 AM
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Pippa Middleton learns kitesurfing and Thai Chi for @waitrose Weekend articles.
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