The Royal Forums Coat of Arms


Join The Royal Forums Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #961  
Old 05-27-2020, 08:55 AM
muriel's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: London / Guildford, United Kingdom
Posts: 10,507
Quote:
Originally Posted by ACO View Post
A Tatler spokesperson spoke to Entertainment Tonight about the Kensington Palace denial and said: “Tatler’s Editor-in-Chief Richard Dennen stands behind the reporting of Anna Pasternak and her sources. Kensington Palace knew we were running the ‘Catherine the Great’ cover months ago and we asked them to work together on it. The fact they are denying they ever knew is categorically false.”


So Tatler is countering their denial.
Tatler was hardly not going to stand by their story.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #962  
Old 05-27-2020, 09:13 AM
Lumutqueen's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
Royal Blogger
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Middlewich, United Kingdom
Posts: 21,388
Quote:
Originally Posted by ACO View Post
https://www.etonline.com/kate-middle...ince-harry-and

A Tatler spokesperson spoke to Entertainment Tonight about the Kensington Palace denial and said: “Tatler’s Editor-in-Chief Richard Dennen stands behind the reporting of Anna Pasternak and her sources. Kensington Palace knew we were running the ‘Catherine the Great’ cover months ago and we asked them to work together on it. The fact they are denying they ever knew is categorically false.”


So Tatler is countering their denial.

I mean they’re not are they.

Kensington Palace has said this;

“This story contains a swathe of inaccuracies & false misrepresentations which were not put to Kensington Palace prior to publication.”

KP are not denying they were unaware of the Catherine the Great cover, nor that they worked together. KP is stating that parts of the article itself weren’t put forward for approval prior to publication. That sparked the denial, not that they didn’t know the article was coming.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fijiro View Post
There are some truths in the Tastler story. Otherwise the Kensington Palace would not be rushing out to try to kill the story, and do some damage control.

I don’t see how you come to that conclusion, when Tatler liaised with the Palace about the cover and the contents. What’s likely happened, is Tatler never ran the final print version passed KP, and this has sparked the denial.

There’s no damage control to be done, if what’s being said isn’t true.
__________________

__________________
We Will Remember Them.
Reply With Quote
  #963  
Old 05-27-2020, 09:26 AM
ACO ACO is offline
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: New York, United States
Posts: 3,757
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumutqueen View Post
I mean they’re not are they.

Kensington Palace has said this;

“This story contains a swathe of inaccuracies & false misrepresentations which were not put to Kensington Palace prior to publication.”

KP are not denying they were unaware of the Catherine the Great cover, nor that they worked together. KP is stating that parts of the article itself weren’t put forward for approval prior to publication. That sparked the denial, not that they didn’t know the article was coming.
I actually agree with you. They knew of the cover story and collaborated with them (to some extent). So what is and isn't a reveal by a "source" is up for debate. The issue is that it would seem Tatler didn't run the final version by KP and the backlash of the article has caused them to want to distance themselves and clear up some content. Understandable but also fascinating.
Reply With Quote
  #964  
Old 05-27-2020, 09:34 AM
Lumutqueen's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
Royal Blogger
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Middlewich, United Kingdom
Posts: 21,388
Quote:
Originally Posted by ACO View Post
I actually agree with you. They knew of the cover story and collaborated with them (to some extent). So what is and isn't a reveal by a "source" is up for debate. The issue is that it would seem Tatler didn't run the final version by KP and the backlash of the article has caused them to want to distance themselves and clear up some content. Understandable but also fascinating.

Absolutely! And I cannot help but think what a colossal mistake they have made. They had input and go ahead from the palace, chose to publish without, and have now burnt any bridges they made with the RF in doing so.

I’ve literally just this minute got the Tatler copy through the post, if anyone wants pictures of the article let me know.
__________________
We Will Remember Them.
Reply With Quote
  #965  
Old 05-27-2020, 09:46 AM
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: st. paul, United States
Posts: 1,854
Quote:
Originally Posted by ACO View Post
I actually agree with you. They knew of the cover story and collaborated with them (to some extent). So what is and isn't a reveal by a "source" is up for debate. The issue is that it would seem Tatler didn't run the final version by KP and the backlash of the article has caused them to want to distance themselves and clear up some content. Understandable but also fascinating.
Well, Tatler says they asked KP to collaborate, they didn't say KP agreed to. Since Tatler is now trying to cover itself, if it had been a joint project they would say so. So Tatler worked on the project solo after not receiving feedback from KP. It sounds like the closest sources they could find were "a friend of Donna Air, James Middleton's ex gf".

Tatler has been writing snarky, superior than thou articles about Catherine, Carole for years, and more recently Meghan too. So this article was their usual faux-nice venom to the ladies. But this time Tatler got pushback from the KP and other papers, so they're huffing. Needless to say I can see why KP didn't want to collaborate with them. Tatler's brand of aristo condescension isn't what the Palace wants to be associated with right now as they work to appeal to middle-class UK during a pandemic.
Reply With Quote
  #966  
Old 05-27-2020, 10:23 AM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Torrance, United States
Posts: 5,186
Quote:
Originally Posted by BaiSoSo View Post
However, the palace seldom seems to follow that rule when it comes to Catherine/William...just everyone else. How many times has the palace spoken out when an unfavorable story comes out about this couple?
Keep in mind that this is Kensington Palace aka The Cambridges which is issuing the comment, not Buckingham Palace/ Windsor Castle-QEII or Clarence House-The PoW. The Cambridges are free to issue a statement when they're the subject of an article.
Reply With Quote
  #967  
Old 05-27-2020, 11:34 AM
Tarlita's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Near Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 2,272
Another lot of Twaddle and BS from a media outlet and it is becoming very tiresome.
Just because something is in print doesn't make it TRUE, especially when it comes to royals.

Anyone can clearly see from photos of Catherine over the last several months that she enjoys her role, her duties and events/engagements. Catherine engages with people beautifully and it clearly shows.

There have been times when her children were very young you could clearly see that she had a bad night with them. This was also clear with other Royal princesses when their babies kept them up half the night. But that is not the case now. Quite simply Catherine Has Not looked tired to me all year.

I really hope that Prince William will do what Princess Caroline of Monaco/Hanover, has done and take the media to court Every time they print/publish a false article.
All these nonsense madeup stories about Royal women have to stop!
Reply With Quote
  #968  
Old 05-27-2020, 11:45 AM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,470
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarlita View Post
Another lot of Twaddle and BS from a media outlet and it is becoming very tiresome.
Just because something is in print doesn't make it TRUE, especially when it comes to royals.

Anyone can clearly see from photos of Catherine over the last several months that she enjoys her role, her duties and events/engagements. Catherine engages with people beautifully and it clearly shows.

There have been times when her children were very young you could clearly see that she had a bad night with them. This was also clear with other Royal princesses when their babies kept them up half the night. But that is not the case now. Quite simply Catherine Has Not looked tired to me all year.

I really hope that Prince William will do what Princess Caroline of Monaco/Hanover, has done and take the media to court Every time they print/publish a false article.
All these nonsense madeup stories about Royal women have to stop!
Well Caroline and her children too sue over photos. And privacy laws are different in France. Yes I know she lives in Monaco now but lived in France for years.

Also yes the media treat royal woman, nag all women, badly. Appalling at times and because they are 'pretty'and look good in a dress and are more 'worthy' of media coverage. It is appalling.
Reply With Quote
  #969  
Old 05-27-2020, 12:00 PM
Osipi's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: On the west side of North up from Back, United States
Posts: 16,741
If there's one thing I can say about the Cambridges is that they're resilient no matter what is thrown at them. They've beautifully proven time and time again that they're more than adept at not only being full time, hands on parents to their children but diligent and enthusiastic when it comes to their royal roles and engagements and duties and responsibilities.

They're very much a happy couple with a happy family in my eyes. I go by what I see rather than what someone decides to print.
__________________
To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment. ~~ Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~
Reply With Quote
  #970  
Old 05-27-2020, 12:03 PM
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Woodbury, United States
Posts: 2,635
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumutqueen View Post
Absolutely! And I cannot help but think what a colossal mistake they have made. They had input and go ahead from the palace, chose to publish without, and have now burnt any bridges they made with the RF in doing so.

I’ve literally just this minute got the Tatler copy through the post, if anyone wants pictures of the article let me know.
So, no one actually knows how Kate feels, but this article could have come across much differently had Tatler chosen to take a far less toxic, aggressive tack. Instead of a profile of Kate, this seems to be almost a way to dirty up her well-earned lovely image - as if Tatler thinks she’s too boring as is. In fact, it also seems to be their way of countering articles on Meghan, almost as if they think Meghan has gotten the shaft, so let’s make Kate out to be a self-centered shrew. Problem is, no one will buy it.

So like I said - everyone would understand if Kate were feeling overwhelmed, but she’s never expressed that sort of seething anger and resentment. It’s a stupid article because it’s unbelievable.
Reply With Quote
  #971  
Old 05-27-2020, 12:14 PM
Tarlita's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Near Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 2,272
Forgive me for saying/including most of us on these forums get excited and very keen to see various royals attending their events, doing their engagements and we on these forums are delighted with that simple reporting of seeing them arrive. What they wore, who they met etc.
It is not boring to us. But for some reason certain sections of the media feel that that kind of reporting is too boring and prefer to set up their own narrative about personal lives.

When most of us are patiently waiting for the next bling fest which gives us a great thrill to see beautiful works of art that is jewels, most of which are over a hundred years old.
Reply With Quote
  #972  
Old 05-27-2020, 12:19 PM
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Scotland, United Kingdom
Posts: 1,127
Quote:
Originally Posted by Betsypaige View Post
So, no one actually knows how Kate feels, but this article could have come across much differently had Tatler chosen to take a far less toxic, aggressive tack. Instead of a profile of Kate, this seems to be almost a way to dirty up her well-earned lovely image - as if Tatler thinks she’s too boring as is. In fact, it also seems to be their way of countering articles on Meghan, almost as if they think Meghan has gotten the shaft, so let’s make Kate out to be a self-centered shrew. Problem is, no one will buy it.

So like I said - everyone would understand if Kate were feeling overwhelmed, but she’s never expressed that sort of seething anger and resentment. It’s a stupid article because it’s unbelievable.
I think you have nailed a few good points there.
Reply With Quote
  #973  
Old 05-27-2020, 01:56 PM
Lumutqueen's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
Royal Blogger
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Middlewich, United Kingdom
Posts: 21,388
So I’ve read the article and it’s genuinely the most hilarious thing ever. No wonder KP are trying to distance themselves from this train wreck.

It’s an article full of contradictions, it praises Catherine as Catherine the Great, kingmaker whilst also tearing her down saying she lacks passion, projects an aura of blandness and lastly suggest that she goes through motions to appease her husband.

It insinuates a lot, sources, friends, confidants, courtiers etc even calling on a medium who apparently visited KP. It comments on her weight, and claims she’s perilously thin like Princess Diana but then lavishes praise on her for supporting William.

People were right, the running theme through the entire article is about how Carole has got her children to the top and does everything she can to mimic Catherine’s royal lifestyle.

The Kate in Numbers section says it all frankly.

This could have been SO good.
__________________
We Will Remember Them.
Reply With Quote
  #974  
Old 05-27-2020, 02:38 PM
Fem's Avatar
Fem Fem is online now
Courtier
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: UK, Poland
Posts: 711
Well, I recommend the "article" to everyone, it's quite a wild ride!

I knew they were going to go with their old "Carole the Mastermind" spiel, because it's what they do since forever, but they were quite aggressive in this, even dragging Pippa into this mess. The medium part was absolutely the best though

It was a mess, it seemed like three different people wrote it and each of them had a different opinion about Catherine. The author couldn't decide between praising her or insulting her, her husband, her family and the Sussexes. Just all over the damn place.

I agree Lumutqueen, no wonder KP doesn't want to have anything to do with this. But I can see some people who are very anti-Cambridges running with this, so it's gonna be a fun couple of days at least...
Reply With Quote
  #975  
Old 05-27-2020, 03:07 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: England, United Kingdom
Posts: 3,533
I've just read it for the 5th time and honestly I don't think its that mean to Catherine. It is though a take down of Carole IMO (and a pretty rubbish article to be honest)

The things said about Catherine are predictable and clearly come from "sources" who aren't close friends but know just enough. I wonder if the comments about "workload" were from someone quite genuine who thinks the level of work W&K now have to do is too much.

I honestly think the worst parts are about Carole and I wouldn't be surprised if they all come from one or two people she has annoyed enough they were always going to speak out. Was James' split from Donna Air a bad one because it sounds like there is some bitterness there.
Reply With Quote
  #976  
Old 05-27-2020, 03:10 PM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 7
The Tatler piece is really quite interesting, isn't it? Whether you agree or disagree with some of it, it makes for a read. It reminded me that the coverage of the Cambridges has been quite a bit more positive over the past couple of years than it sometimes was previously.

One difference is the Harry/Meghan romance and the temptations for many to draw all sorts of comparisons. Another difference (that I think may be impt) is that Catherine Quinn came on board a couple of years ago as personal secretary to the DoC.

I felt Ms Quinn was a real asset and during her time there we saw Kate getting more positive coverage and also taking on a broader range of interesting tasks. Ms Quinn departed last November, and I imagine this Tatler piece-- in the works for "months" is one of the first new big pieces to come out after Ms Quinn's departure. Not blaming Ms Quinn in anyway, more wondering if the coverage and types of projects the Cambridge's take on will revert back a bit now?
Reply With Quote
  #977  
Old 05-27-2020, 03:58 PM
Somebody's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Somewhere, Suriname
Posts: 6,661
Having finally read the article. I'd say the main reasons KP responded to this piece are that it primarily paints Catherine's mother Carole (and to a certain extent Pippa as well) in a bad light. They probably except that this is part of 'their job' but don't want their family members to suffer for their choices (i.e., marrying). And the second is that I presume that Tatler would normally be taken a bit more seriously than the tabloids.

And regarding all those 'friends'. I think anyone could come up with ideas as 'they are unhappy about the way H&M are handling all of this and would rather not have to shoulder the royal burden for their generation alone' (which of course is put more dramatically as in poor Catherine cannot bring the children to school these days because she is so busy - well, she couldn't anyway as the schools are closed).

But what about that psychic story? I never heard of it before; has this been reported before? If not, where would this idea come from?
Reply With Quote
  #978  
Old 05-27-2020, 04:00 PM
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: st. paul, United States
Posts: 1,854
Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy100 View Post
I've just read it for the 5th time and honestly I don't think its that mean to Catherine. It is though a take down of Carole IMO (and a pretty rubbish article to be honest)

The things said about Catherine are predictable and clearly come from "sources" who aren't close friends but know just enough. I wonder if the comments about "workload" were from someone quite genuine who thinks the level of work W&K now have to do is too much.

I honestly think the worst parts are about Carole and I wouldn't be surprised if they all come from one or two people she has annoyed enough they were always going to speak out. Was James' split from Donna Air a bad one because it sounds like there is some bitterness there.
There might be. When Donna and James broke-up (Dec 2017), Donna went on a romantic vacation with her new boyfriend Ben Carrington the same month (Dec 2017). I wonder if James thinks there was some overlap between the two relationships? Add to that he was going through a bad depression at the time, I wonder if the Middletons have a frosty view on how things went down..This set usually tries to stay friends with their exes, we'll see if Donna gets an invite to James' wedding, that will be a good indication on how much bitterness is there.
Reply With Quote
  #979  
Old 05-27-2020, 04:18 PM
Somebody's Avatar
Majesty
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Somewhere, Suriname
Posts: 6,661
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumutqueen View Post
I mean they’re not are they.

Kensington Palace has said this;

“This story contains a swathe of inaccuracies & false misrepresentations which were not put to Kensington Palace prior to publication.”

KP are not denying they were unaware of the Catherine the Great cover, nor that they worked together. KP is stating that parts of the article itself weren’t put forward for approval prior to publication. That sparked the denial, not that they didn’t know the article was coming.

I don’t see how you come to that conclusion, when Tatler liaised with the Palace about the cover and the contents. What’s likely happened, is Tatler never ran the final print version passed KP, and this has sparked the denial.

There’s no damage control to be done, if what’s being said isn’t true.
Yes, indeed. The fact that they twisted KP's response into something that obviously isn't true at all probably is an indication of how they wrote the article.

We don't even know whether KP provided any input (I don't see evidence of it); I suppose Tatler would have claimed that in their response if true. While the exaggerate on the KP denial, they only claim 'we asked them to work together'; and such a request can be denied...
Reply With Quote
  #980  
Old 05-27-2020, 04:34 PM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 7
I haven't read the psychic story before, either. Tatler likes to seem quite insidery, doesn't it? And aren't the Middleton family supposed to be quite friendly with the editor? I imagine a lot of quotes were from people who had permission to talk to Tatler, perhaps there was some misjudgment about how some of it would come across. I do wonder about the denial now, the overall politics of it is rather curious and interesting.
__________________

Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Extended Bernadotte Family, News Part 1: March 2017 - JessRulz Royal House of Sweden 315 09-18-2021 08:17 AM
General News for the Cambridge Family 2: January 2015-March 2017 JessRulz Current Events Archive 1570 03-19-2017 12:27 AM




Popular Tags
america archie mountbatten-windsor asian baby names baptism birth britain britannia british royal family british royals buckingham palace camilla camilla parker-bowles camilla parker bowles carolin china chinese ming dynasty asia asian emperor royalty qing coronation customs duchess of sussex duke of sussex edward vii elizabeth ii family tree fashion and style gemstones genetics george vi gradenigo harry and meghan henry viii hereditary grand duchess stéphanie hereditary grand duke guillaume highgrove history hochberg house of windsor hypothetical monarchs japan history king juan carlos liechtenstein list of rulers luxembourg medical meghan markle monarchist movements monarchists monarchy mongolia mountbatten names nara period pless politics prince charles of luxembourg prince harry princess eugenie queen consort queen elizabeth ii queen louise queen victoria royal ancestry royalty of taiwan sussex suthida swedish queen tradition unfinished portrait united states of america wales welsh


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:11 AM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2021
Jelsoft Enterprises
×