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Old 10-17-2017, 12:44 PM
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Ther than the fact that the trip has been rescheduled, do we have any information that would suggest that she is determined to attend ?
I don't know if she is determined to attend, but i'm glad that William and Catherine have been stepping up contacts with other European royal houses. They have been in official visits to Denmark and Belgium (in the latter, more than once actually) and Catherine has been to Luxembourg. As the future king and queen consort, it is important that they develop a relationship with other young sovereigns or future sovereigns.
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Old 10-17-2017, 12:49 PM
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Catherine also went to the Netherlands last year (on October 11) on her first solo visit abroad! She visited The Hague and Rotterdam; and was received by the King.
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Old 10-17-2017, 01:27 PM
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George and Charlotte are unlikely to go as George is now in full time education and Charlotte will likely be starting nursery in January as they normally begin in the term when they turn 3. If they did choose to bring George and take him out of school I would think less of them, considering parents nowadays get fined for taking their children out of school during term time.
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Old 10-17-2017, 02:32 PM
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To those who are wondering about whether Kate is determined to join William for the visits to Norway and Sweden - read these 4 points:

1. The palace had originally planned for William and Kate to make a four or five-day visit to Norway, Sweden and Finland in late November.

2. But Kate's illness forced a change of plans, and the visits to Norway and Sweden was postponed to early 2018.

3. It was not possible to postpone the trip to Finland until next year, as the main reason for going is to celebrate Finland's centenary year as a nation.

4. It was therefore decided that William will visit Finland alone.

So after reading those 4 points, then we can ask ourselves - why was the visits to Norway and Sweden postponed if Kate was not determined to attend.

George and Charlotte:

The highly trusted royal expert Kjell Arne Totland said on TV2 News Channel that they would probably bring the children.

What do I think? That it's unlikely.
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Old 10-17-2017, 02:49 PM
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is there a winter break or bank holiday early in the year? I am not familiar with the UK calendar. If so - that is the only circumstance i could see bringing George & Charlotte - but admittedly the pics of Estelle and George along with all of the other kids would be priceless.

I cant see them pulling George out of school for this trip.
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Old 10-17-2017, 02:54 PM
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George and Charlotte:

The highly trusted royal expert Kjell Arne Totland said on TV2 News Channel that they would probably bring the children.

Did this highly trusted royal expert explain why ? I also find it unlikely with George being now at school. Having said that, the photo op with the Cambridge kids and King Carl Gustaf's grandchildren would be priceless.

I find it odd that, since his teenage years, William was often paired with Madeleine in the gossip magazines as the "perfect royal match", even though Madeleine once admitted she had never actually met either Wiiliam or Harry. Maybe they can fix that in the new generation so that George and Charlotte can get to know their Swedish fifth cousins.
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:15 PM
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I keeping my fingers crossed that the trip will coincide with a school break so the Cambridge children can go!


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Did this highly trusted royal expert explain why ?
Because they brought both their children to Poland and Germany, he said.

Not one of his best moments, but I don't think he had the school thing in mind.

He wrote this in his blog an hour later: ''It belongs to the story that William and Kate brought both their children to Poland and Germany. So maybe we'll see George and Charlotte in Norway too,'' se post 173 for more of his blog post.

About Kjell Arne Totland:
He was the royal expert/reporter in Se og Hør from 1991 to 2011. Yes, a very unserious gossip magazine, but he was in that period (as he's now) regarded as the most trusted/serious go to person for news on the royals. He was also used by NRK as a commentator on royal events.

He started (at the age of 68) in his position as TV2's royal expert in 2013.
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Old 10-17-2017, 04:34 PM
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Ther than the fact that the trip has been rescheduled, do we have any information that would suggest that she is determined to attend ?
KP could’ve announced that William out do take the whole November trip alone. It’s seem the postponement allow Catherine to be well enough so she can make this trip.
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Old 10-17-2017, 05:59 PM
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KP could’ve announced that William out do take the whole November trip alone. It’s seem the postponement allow Catherine to be well enough so she can make this trip.
But what we don't know is if she really wanted to go or The Queen or Charles or William insisted she go and rescheduled the trip.
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Old 10-17-2017, 06:14 PM
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If the Cambridge kids went on tour the talk would be of royal matchmaking. There was a time when royal houses intermarried to strengthen alliances and the arrangements were done when they where young. If the practice were to start up again would be with the UK and Sweden. George with Leonore (or with Madeline's third child if it's a girl) because the Princess Couple live in London.
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Old 10-17-2017, 06:26 PM
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Catherine suffers from HG during her pregnancies. It’s a fact of life. It’s also a fact that means certain events or engagements have to be cancelled or reschedule
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Old 10-17-2017, 06:28 PM
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I think taking the children was never on the plan. It was a five-day tour, unlike the Australia/NZ trip and the children are in school and pre-school. To be honest I wonder if Catherine will even go in early 2018 being heavily pregnant until April sometime and then with a brand new baby. I don't see Catherine feeling up to it or wanting to do it.
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Old 10-17-2017, 06:37 PM
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This is her third pregnancy. She’s becoming an old pro. If there was even 1 percent chance of her not being up for it KP would never have announced it today.

She’s travelled when pregnant before, when she visited America.
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Old 10-17-2017, 06:45 PM
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I think taking the children was never on the plan. It was a five-day tour, unlike the Australia/NZ trip and the children are in school and pre-school. To be honest I wonder if Catherine will even go in early 2018 being heavily pregnant until April sometime and then with a brand new baby. I don't see Catherine feeling up to it or wanting to do it.

She went to New York when she was pregnant with Charlotte. If her health is good she’ll definitely go.
As for her ‘not wanting to go’, I kind of doubt that would be even given a passing though by the powers that be.



I highly doubt any royal lady wanted to do tours and international trips when pregnant, yet they do them because it’s their job and they have to.
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Old 10-17-2017, 06:48 PM
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Piecing together the information on the original plan - they were being asked to do 3 countries in 5 days.

That is a lot of travelling in a short period of time plus if the tour is to have any value then in has to have a reasonable level of content. So little time to recover....

And I think travelling might be the issue for Catherine. The Palace reception -it wasn't too far or she arrived early in order to ensure she was fit to attend. At Paddington, not too far and she could have bailed out as she wasn't slated to attend. But once you start a tour, that's it.

I think also that she is having a tougher time than with Charlotte. She looks worn out.

So its playing safe. Best all round really.
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Old 10-17-2017, 06:49 PM
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ETA - in response to Rudolph...Indeed, it has only been in the early stage of the pregnancies that Catherine has been ill - throughout the remainder of the pregnancies she has been fit, well and healthy right up to the last engagements she did.
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Old 10-17-2017, 07:03 PM
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I think also that she is having a tougher time than with Charlotte. She looks worn out.

So it's playing safe. Best all round really.
The older you get the harder a pregnancy is on the body. There can be a big difference between being pregnant at 30 and at 35.

And from everything I’ve read, HG tends to get worse with each subsequent pregnancy.
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Old 10-17-2017, 07:18 PM
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But what we don't know is if she really wanted to go or The Queen or Charles or William insisted she go and rescheduled the trip.
I think it’s Catherine really want to make this trip. It’s best that it’s been rescheduled.

I’m not talking about she’s going to kill somebody if she don’t go. Just saying that she wanna be well enough to go.
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Old 10-17-2017, 07:34 PM
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But what we don't know is if she really wanted to go or The Queen or Charles or William insisted she go and rescheduled the trip.
Maybe William would rather not go? Or maybe Harry has no interest in going to Denmark either? Probably Andrew rather stays home every day instead of going on his many travels? It seems rather pointless to discuss whether they really want to go or that someone else wants them to go.

I assume their opinions are taken into account to a certain extent but it is not only up to them - it is always a combination of things: there is a reason to go and it is thought best that royal(s) X take(s) on that duty and they are ok with it - sometimes they might have been looking forward to do it for a long time and other times it is mostly out of duty.

In this specific case, I am quite sure that if Catherine and her doctors thought that it would be a bad idea, they would not have rescheduled to allow for her to join William. At the same time, I am sure the government is happy that she is willing to go (and feels up to it) early 2018 as the trip will get far more press attention if William is joined by his wife!
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