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I love this thread. It's better than a soap opera (or my work)...
Exactly what skills did Diana have when she married Charles?
Camilla raised 2 children and supported her first husband.
As Sophie discovered, trying to have a career while married to a royal got a lot of unwelcome scrutiny by the media of her clients,and allegations that she used her connections to further her clients' interests.
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Im sorry did anyone say Kate needs to have a career? Don't believe I said that, nor did I say Diana had any skills before she married Charles. But unlike Kate she was a teenager.
KateMiddy, I agree the problem is becoming that she has no interests other than William, no ambition to accomplish anything other than marrying William. It is not one thing but a combination of things from over the years. I always hated people calling her Waity Katy, I defended her and her choices and believed it was hard for her to have a real job despite working at the family business. But like I said I am starting to see pattern with her.
I don't know if it was this thread but some people have brought up how they have been attacked for not adoring the Dk and Duchs, if you disagree with opinions then do so, but stop using the "your jealous or hateful" rant. It really adds nothing to the conversation and I don't think it's particularly nice to assume things about people you have the most minimal contact with.
I think the conversation has spun out of control. Everyone knows that Catherine worked several jobs before marrying William and she works now. She do a great deal behind the scenes as well. Trouble is it's not really talked about. Some of the royal reporters and correspondents have pointed out that the royal Court Circular and palace press offices haven't published the meetings Catherine conducts on behalf of her charities. We hear about the annual Royal Foundation Forum but everything else she do is glossed over, unless it's a public official engagement. I think it presents a problem as to letting everyone know what she's doing. They published one meeting but haven't done it since.
When I talk about what's next for Catherine, I'm not just talking about her conducting charitable engagements because we know she's in constant contact with them. I mean what's next for her in royal roles. The biggest job she's about to take on is on behalf of the Queen in Malta. We don't know the details of the trip yet but it's a big deal. I'm wondering what will come next? presidencies, patronages, colonelcy's? I think she can take on more roles and she seem to enjoy doing public duties. Her confidence has grown a lot since she first came on the royal scene.
Everyone knows that Catherine worked several jobs before marrying William
She do a great deal behind the scenes as well. Trouble is it's not really talked about. Some of the royal reporters and correspondents have pointed out that the royal Court Circular and palace press offices haven't published the meetings Catherine conducts on behalf of her charities. We hear about the annual Royal Foundation Forum but everything else she do is glossed over, unless it's a public official engagement. I think it presents a problem as to letting everyone know what she's doing. They published one meeting but haven't done it since.
Let's be honest what skills does she have? Smiling and looking pretty so far. Even William is a skilled pilot seeming to use his univ degree. Even Charlene who isn't a superb role model has a skill before becoming a Princess, James and Pippa have skills as well, Kate's skill...
This is silly...Kate doesn't need to have a specific skill although I am sure she has many. If nothing else she appears to have excellent skills at being a mother. That is the most important job a woman can do.
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Why wouldn't a woman want a career? And stay at home moms don't have the help she has.
What jobs did Catherine do before marrying William? I am aware she worked part-time as an accessories buyer at Jigsaw for about 12 months and I know she was a part of her family's business but I didn't know of any other jobs.
You've said this before as if it only applies to Catherine. It applies to all the Royals not just to her. They all do work behind the scenes that doesn't get reported.
I think Kate might get more involved with charities regarding children such as the very ill kids handling with palliative cares... I won' say much more because every word said against them is publicly attacked
Gosh, I'd better stay away from this thread for a while
I believe Catherine worked during her time at St. Andrews. Yes, she worked at Jigsaw and Party Pieces as well. She mentioned in the engagement interview that she worked hard too. So to gone on and on about her not working before her marriage wasn't true then and it's not true now.
Catherine worked in her family's business. Just like the Queen's children work in their family's business.
And as for how the Cambridges are living their lives right now, they have an obligation to stay married, or else there will be two generations of divorced monarchs. If it were easy to be married to a royal, then Diana, Mark, and Sarah would still be members of the family. The Queen saw her sister divorce (and live pretty unhappily ever after), and there have always been rumors that
HM and the DoE have had rocky bits in their marriage.
Another consideration is Catherine's health. She had a hard early pregnancy, and she may have another one sometime soon. They are doing what works for them.
Im wondering the same as well, just leave until the anger dies down.
All members of the RF work behind the scenes, they also happen to be seen working as well. They all have at least one job, the ones who are PG royals hAve 2; the only one who consistently does as little as possible is Kate. If she took a class or gathered local children to her home to teach them art, photography, art history...or volunteered at a museum 3 days a week, it would at least be something.
Thank you for explaining Dman. BTW I asked because I genuinely didn't know, not because I was trying to be argumentative.
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Her Royal Highness was joined by comedian John Bishop, with whom she launched the charity effort last year, and she spoke with people involved in a pilot programme for the school-based project M-PACT (Moving Parents and Children Together) Plus.
The initiative, funded by The Royal Foundation and Comic Relief, and delivered by charities Place2Be and Action on Addiction, of which The Duchess is a Patron, aims to provide early support for schoolchildren affected by a parent's drug or alcohol misuse.
Bishop said The Duchess is "genuinely committed" to the issue, and hailed the involvement of The Royal Foundation.
I will make one post on the state of the Cambridges' marriage and one post only.
These are two people that took years and years to build up a relationship and I think over that time, they both got a very good glimpse of what life would be like married in a royal fishbowl.
Even in the strongest of marriages, there will be rocky bits. There will be "I love you but I really don't like you much right now" days and times of wanting to use the proverbial frying pan. No couple in the world is able to get along 100% of the time.
A couple's marriage is something unique just for them and only has room for two people. Unless you're one of the couple, you have no clue on the state of that marriage and like speculating on pregnancy which is also up to the couple, they're the only ones that have a clue in the world what is going on or not.
Maybe there could be a separate thread...sort of Why We Love The Cambridges, or Let's Hear It for William and Catherine for posters who cannot bear seeing them criticized? Posters who aren't crazy about them could agree not to come into the thread.
I think it's unfair that some people feel intimidated, or discouraged from expressing dissenting opinions.
If the criticisms were reasonable, discussion would be much easier. (For instance, I understand the whole point about her skirt mishaps happening several times.)
But this thread (and the others for William and their residences) have contained the following whoppers and head-scratchers, among others:
- they're lazy and have openly disrespected the Queen
- they have received more property than the Queen's children and grandchildren.
- Kate has no purpose, and why would being a stay-at-home mom be considered a purpose anyway?
Some of these are ridiculous-others are completely insulting. So, for me at least, that's what I object to.
If the criticisms were reasonable, discussion would be much easier. (For instance, I understand the whole point about her skirt mishaps happening several times.)
But this thread (and the others for William and their residences) have contained the following whoppers and head-scratchers, among others:
- they're lazy and have openly disrespected the Queen
- they have received more property than the Queen's children and grandchildren.
- Kate has no purpose, and why would being a stay-at-home mom be considered a purpose anyway?
Some of these are ridiculous-others are completely insulting. So, for me at least, that's what I object to.
casualfan, in theory what you are saying is true. But in practice it's a far, far different story. I have praised the DoC's many beautiful outfits. I've made comments about her adorable baby. I've expressed relief that there is an anti-Kardashian for the press to focus on. But the only time, and I do mean THE ONLY TIME I ever get a response to something I post in a Cambridge thread is when I don't express gushing admiration for them.
If I say that Kate should get control of her skirt blow up issues, it's insinuated that I am jealous and what does it matter anyway since she has great legs and is wearing a thong.
If I express disappointment over what I feel is a lax attitude toward protocol, I am called "irrational" and "filled with hate" and subjected to unfunny satire by someone who fancies themselves a wit.
Frankly I am tired of it. If you or anyone else really want to see what irrational, jealous hatred of the Royals really looks like, send me a PM and I'll direct you to a couple of sites. This place doesn't even come close I assure you!
This is supposed to be a public message board with an exchange of opinions, not a fan site. There are plenty of those on the Internet for posters who are interested.