Duchess of Cambridge: What Now for Catherine? Future Duties, Roles, Responsibilities


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From the point of view of a non UK citzen, the Cambridges have done nothing wrong so far. The way they dress, represent UK in official duties, et cetera.
They also add some charm to the UK way of life and that attracts me to experience UK at least one more time (I have been to UK thrice so far - England and Scotland). When you consider the millions companies spend in PR and advertisement to promote their products and brands (not considering many more in lobbies), I think the Royal Family is worth much more. Most of what people say about Kate sounds to me like jealousy and individuals trying to be hollier than thou.
In Brazil we have a popular saying that would roughly translate to "Everybody sees the booze I have been drinking but nobody sees the the falls I have had" (people see how well I am faring but don't notice (know) how much trouble I have faced)
 
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Kataryn said:
I don't know if you ever happened to be in the same hotel as a visiting US president. I was once in Berlin and that really was bad - nobody was allowed to inform the guests, we were just ordered around and the American security at one point even entered our room when we were away - I had come back to get a coat I had forgotten and there they were checking my room - even though this is forbidden by German law. and in addition they were very unpolite! So the blocking of of some amenities is standard procedure when there are high-profile guests anywhere.
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The Middletons are on vacation, not quite the same as a state visit.
 
KittyAtlanta said:
The Middletons are on vacation, not quite the same as a state visit.
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Are you actually implying that Catherine does not have the right to take a vacation because of her security detail?

Lets not forget that
a) decisions taken by the security guards are theirs, and not at the instruction of the Duke & Duchess of Cambridge
b) The BRF did not make the decision to have security and at what level. That is the decision of the government of the day.
 
Zonk said:
Personally I don't believe this "news" at all. First of all, it comes from the Daily Mail which actually isn't known for its accuracy (in checking it sources, getting the right names, dates and facts right etc.). Second, since no pictures (to my knowledge) have come out I would guess that the Middleton family is at a private home/resort, so I would think they are not prohibiting people from using amenities that come with their vacation.

Just more of the DM trying to start something without the appropriate facts to back it up.
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Yep, agree. Some other site has actually disputed the DM's claims. According to their sources, guests have not been inconvenienced and things have been pretty normal on the island.
 
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Mustique is a privately-owned island, purchased by Lord Glenconner over 50 years ago. In order to afford visitors privacy, the media is not allowed on the island. I would suppose a photographer could sneak onto the island, but it's likely that he/she would be discovered fairly quickly. It's possible that visitors have called the media, complaining that their activities have been curtailed because of the Middleton party, but would they, when surely they expect other high-profile visitors to be on the island? The Queen and Prince Philip have vacationed there several times, and Princess Margaret owned a residence there (I think it may have been sold since her death).
 
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I suspect that if the Duchess healed the sick, solved world debt, created world peace, and had dinner on the table for her family by 6pm, people would still find fault with her.

Bless her heart, that poor girl cannot win for trying.
 
Duchess of Durham said:
I suspect that if the Duchess healed the sick, solved world debt, created world peace, and had dinner on the table for her family by 6pm, people would still find fault with her.

Bless her heart, that poor girl cannot win for trying.
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:lol: I have to agree .... but you forgot the part about walking on water.
 
Duchess of Durham said:
I suspect that if the Duchess healed the sick, solved world debt, created world peace, and had dinner on the table for her family by 6pm, people would still find fault with her.
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:previous:You're right...the cost to the taxpayer for royal protection to accomplish all of this is totally unacceptable regardless of the benefits:angry:.
 
Duchess of Durham said:
I suspect that if the Duchess healed the sick, solved world debt, created world peace, and had dinner on the table for her family by 6pm, people would still find fault with her.

Bless her heart, that poor girl cannot win for trying.
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Unfortunately, you're right. Sad that in the eyes of some this woman cannot do anything right.

Princess of Durham said:
:lol: I have to agree .... but you forgot the part about walking on water.
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:ROFLMAO: :D That made me laugh.
 
OK, you guys win for now. If we're still having this conversation in 2 years, I win.
 
Please note that the speculative comments regarding pregnancy (and Kate not working) have been deleted.
 
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:lol: I have to agree .... but you forgot the part about walking on water.
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It's better she doesn't do it - otherwise some people would count the cost of the boats transporting her security, so again she would be on fault for doing things others need support at a cost to the taxpayer for following her! :D
 
I think People is more reliable, so maybe this cover is the real deal.
 
I don't know what all the complaints are about, but Kate isn't the first person to experience this type of scrutiny. Every person in the public eye acquires scruntiny because it seems everyone seems to think they know more about the person than the person themselves. It's human nature. Everyone must criticize other individuals especially people with my power, attention, and money. Don't ask me why......it's ridiculous. The complaints I have is how unfactual the criticisms can be and how much information is misinterpreted and manipulated by people but more specifically the media. I think we should all keep that in mind when we cite, reference, or take information as fact especially if it is not from an official source.
 
I don't like people calling her a role model. Not yet. Let her earn that. She isn't a role model for marrying her college sweetheart, that's just normal. She is only starting out and she hasn't done hardly anything. The role models in the BRF are the Queen, Anne, Sophie, Philip, Charles, Edward.... And Harry!!!! But Kate isn't there yet. I left William off that list because he still has something to prove in my opinion. I like him but I don't admire him. At least, not yet.
 
Catherine as Role Model

CasiraghiTrio said:
I don't like people calling her a role model. Not yet. Let her earn that. She isn't a role model for marrying her college sweetheart, that's just normal. She is only starting out and she hasn't done hardly anything. The role models in the BRF are the Queen, Anne, Sophie, Philip, Charles, Edward.... And Harry!!!! But Kate isn't there yet. I left William off that list because he still has something to prove in my opinion. I like him but I don't admire him. At least, not yet.
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On the contrary, CasiraghiTrio, if one looks back at her childhood, sporting activities, academic performance and her university career, she could be a role model for many young people. And she pulled off a wonderful, understated yet fabulous royal wedding, one that seemed appropriately regal yet very carefully managed in light of the fact it was in the middle of a recession. Even the length of her train and choice of an understated tiara were signs of her good sense. And while she certainly had great help from courtiers and advisors, it was widely reported that many of the choices for her wedding were hers and William's and show their sensitivity. Her wardrobe choices during the past year show the same sensitivity and good sense in that they are carefully chosen to avoid suggesting over the top consumption. And finally, the Canada trip certainly revealed her good sense, cautious approach and determination to be a credit to her new family and her country.

A positive role model? So far, this observer thinks so! She has come off the block cleanly and it looks like she may go the distance.
 
Susanna Wynne said:
On the contrary, CasiraghiTrio, if one looks back at her childhood, sporting activities, academic performance and her university career, she could be a role model for many young people. And she pulled off a wonderful, understated yet fabulous royal wedding, one that seemed appropriately regal yet very carefully managed in light of the fact it was in the middle of a recession. Even the length of her train and choice of an understated tiara were signs of her good sense. And while she certainly had great help from courtiers and advisors, it was widely reported that many of the choices for her wedding were hers and William's and show their sensitivity. Her wardrobe choices during the past year show the same sensitivity and good sense in that they are carefully chosen to avoid suggesting over the top consumption. And finally, the Canada trip certainly revealed her good sense, cautious approach and determination to be a credit to her new family and her country.

A positive role model? So far, this observer thinks so! She has come off the block cleanly and it looks like she may go the distance.
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All that can be laudable, yes, but it still seems very normal to me: sports at school, pulling off a wedding... As for academic performance, she seems to have done pretty average, mildly impressive work, laudable in itself, but again, nothing spectacular, in my opinion. I'm honestly not trying to be disagreeable. Maybe some people see a "fabulous" wedding. I don't, but even if I did, so what if she had a "fabulous" wedding? I am still, not seeing a role model. I swear, I am not meaning to put her down, I just don't see a role model... Yet! Just not yet! a wedding,even a royal wedding is just a wedding. It's a ceremony, not an accomplishment. Women everywhere won't like me for belittling the value of a wedding! But there is just one of many grudges I hold against societal norms: the fuss and much ado we make of weddings! :)
 
Since most of my students view their parents as role models (regardless of how much "they've pulled off") - and rightfully so, since a role model is someone we end up emulating (not necessarily because we've decided to do so), of course Kate could be a role model for some young people. Certainly, her fashions are sometimes influencing young women to buy out similar items.

We don't all have the same values or role models, obviously.

As for William, I find it hard to believe that he's not a role model for those young people who want to go into a life of helping others by being a SAR pilot and a first responder in an emergency. This is like saying firemen aren't role models. Of all the royals, William is the one most known to younger people in SoCal and Hawaii, and they admire his job choice (and the fact that he works, it's perceived as a difficult job that many people don't want to do, but for those who do - one that requires lots of technical training and persistence in jumping through hoops, something that many young people have a very hard time doing). I always point out that he's received the ultimate in family support - but the family can't pass his technical tests for him (and many young people get family support while they attempt to do something similar).

At any rate, William's deployment to the Falklands has underscored the dedication needed to be in the military as well - military families admire him, and commiserate with the long separations from family that his work entails. If you live around military people, you know they admire people who do this cheerfully and successfully. I wouldn't want my spouse gone for that length of time, I think it requires devotion and patience that I've never developed (spouse feels the same way).

But we're glad someone else is doing it - and that's what some role models are about. They inspire us to do a little more because they're doing it and we're not.
 
I do view William and Harry as role models a little more than Kate. It would be so easy for William and Harry to sit back and do nothing but the occasional charity function and get paid just for their first names. But I admire both for choosing to have a separate job that they are both good at and seem to enjoy. It also must be hard having to balance the two jobs.
As for Kate, she does not have career experience but the fact that she went to college, keeps her clothes on, doesn't have a sex tape, doesn't have naked photos of her on the internet, and doesn't have 3 kids with 3 different daddies, makes her a role model in my book. I would rather little girls look up to her, and Chelsy, as opposed to Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, or Miley Cyrus.
 
I personally think Kate is a good role model.She makes mistakes but,tries to keep them private!
 
Thank you Xenia!!! I so agree with you. At least she isnt on some porn video or naked somewhere in pictures. I have to admire her for at least keeping her reputation in check. Alot of people might not think she has done anything to be considered a role model but I believe she has done a good job at being a young woman who has tried to make a good impression on not only the media but the people that look to her as the future Queen. :)
 
[QUOTE=XeniaCasaraghi;1366483]As for Kate, she does not have career experience but the fact that she went to college, keeps her clothes on, doesn't have a sex tape, doesn't have naked photos of her on the internet, and doesn't have 3 kids with 3 different daddies, makes her a role model in my book.

A very sad day when this is all it takes to be a role model! Have our expectations become so low for our young women?
 
grevinnan said:
[QUOTE=XeniaCasaraghi;1366483]As for Kate, she does not have career experience but the fact that she went to college, keeps her clothes on, doesn't have a sex tape, doesn't have naked photos of her on the internet, and doesn't have 3 kids with 3 different daddies, makes her a role model in my book.

A very sad day when this is all it takes to be a role model! Have our expectations become so low for our young women?
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Well,I guess it depends on what kind of role model you are talking about. She may not be a role model for some regarding work/career but she can be a role model for some regarding manners and behavior.

Is it necessary for her to be a role model in every aspect of her life?

And honestly, I am not that bothered over her work history. I know people say she's lazy, workshy, etc. Is that the truth, or something fabricated by the media to sell papers? In my mind there is enough doubt that I don't feel comfortable judging on this.

IMHO.
 
In an age of Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian where flashing your goods will make you famous, yes I will say Kate is a role model. Whether you want to say standards have lowered, well that's up to you. For 10yrs the woman has maintained her composure, honor, and respectability, even when she was broken up with William. Despite how easy some people think she has had it, I don't believe it could have just been a walk in the park to be "Waity Katy".
 
I would venture to say that the vast majority of people who have been told "I want to be just like you" are not famous, nor have they done anything extraordinary or had their photographs splashed all over the world media. You don't have to be famous to be a role model, nor have done anything noteworthy.

My role model? My mother. You don't know her, you've never met her. You probably never will. But that doesn't change the fact that by living a good Christian life, by raising a (somewhat :)) normal family, and by treating people in a way that makes them feel special, she is a person that I feel is wholeheartedly worth emulating. Everyday, everywhere in this world, normal, ordinary people are performing as role models -- whether they know it or not. So yes, Kate is a role model, and she need not have done anything to qualify for it. She is in a position to influence people the world over in many different ways.

There was an article posted here a while back praising Kate for making it again popular to dress like a lady. Here here! If by her fashion choices, public behavior, and decorum, she influences just one young (or older) person to make appropriate choices, then I say "job well done". :flowers:
 
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