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09-30-2022, 05:16 AM
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I was going to ask if the family was Bohemian or Russian, but I’ve got my answer now
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They are related.
Prince Nicolas Wolkonsky and Marie Garnier de Falletans have both descended from Duke Victurnien de Rochechouart-Mortemart (1752-1812).
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09-30-2022, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Marc23
They are related.
Prince Nicolas Wolkonsky and Marie Garnier de Falletans have both descended from Duke Victurnien de Rochechouart-Mortemart (1752-1812).
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And I think Princess Flore d’Arenberg
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10-02-2022, 04:03 PM
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And I think Princess Flore d’Arenberg
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Yes, they also both descended from Princess Flore and her husband Wolfgang, Duke of Ursel (1750-1804).
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10-07-2022, 01:05 PM
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Prince Josef-Emanuel of Liechtenstein (b. 7 May 1989) [youngest of three living children and only son of Prince Nikolaus of Liechtenstein (b.1947) & his wife Margaretha, nee Princess of Luxemburg (b.1957)] married María Claudia Echavarría Suárez (b. July 1988) [daughter of late Felipe Echevarria Rocha & his wife Evelia Suarez] in St. Peter Claver Cathedral in Cartagena de Indias (Colombia) on 25 March.
Josef-Emmanuel is the youngest of his parent's living children and last one who marries.
Source: https://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...ml#post2459551
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Wonder whether she might be pregnant because she obviously didn' t accompany Josef to Maria Laura' s wedding.
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10-07-2022, 05:01 PM
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Wonder whether she might be pregnant because she obviously didn' t accompany Josef to Maria Laura' s wedding.
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She was at the wedding in Brussels with her husband and she is not pregnant
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10-11-2022, 11:37 AM
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Aidan Harold Winston Crawley (b.22 October 1983) [son of Marita Georgina Phillips (b.1954) & her late first husband Randall Stafford Crawley (1950-1988)] [B] married Alice Sophie Keswick (b.22 May 1985, nee Rugge-Price) [former wife of Archibald David Keswick (b. 1980) scion of that landed family, and daughter of James Keith Alan "Jamie" Rugge-Price (b.1944), scion of the Rugge-Price baronets, & his former wife Alexa Crookshank, now Mrs Alez Vere Nicoll] sometime this year.
Source: Descendants of Duke Wilhelm of Nassau
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Aidan is a first a first cousin of the Duke of Westminster via their mother’s who are sisters. Lady Anastasia Wernher would be so proud of this marriage.
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10-19-2022, 04:04 PM
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Princess Marie Gabrielle of Bourbon-Parma (b.23 December 1982) [second of four children and second daughter of late Prince Eric of Bourbon-Parma (1953-2021) & his former wife Countess Lydia Holstein-Ledreborg (b.1955)] married Martin Kjeldsen sometime this year.
This is Marie Gabrielle's first marriage; she has out-of-wedlock son Mark (b.1999) [identity of his father is unknown].
Sources: Descendants of King Christian IX of Denmark
https://www.angelfire.com/realm/gotha/gotha/parma.html
Count Benedikt of Neipperg (b.11 April 1980) [son of Archduchess Andrea of Austria (b.1953) & her husband Karl Eugen, Count of Neipperg (b.1951)] married Countess Charlotte von Bernstorff (b.1988) sometime this year.
Benedikt is second of his parents' five children and last one who marries.
Sources: http://heinbruins.nl/FraKa.html
https://www.angelfire.com/realm/goth.../neipperg.html
Princess Gisela of Liechtenstein (b.26 June 1990) [younger daughter of Prince Michael of Liechtenstein (b.1951) & his wife Hildegard, nee Peters (b.1948)] married Victor Bergmann (b.1987) sometime this year.
Source: http://heinbruins.nl/FraKa.html
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10-20-2022, 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Biri
Count Benedikt of Neipperg (b.11 April 1980) [son of Archduchess Andrea of Austria (b.1953) & her husband Karl Eugen, Count of Neipperg (b.1951)] married Countess Charlotte von Bernstorff (b.1988) sometime this year.
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A quick Google session resulted in this find:
https://www.researchgate.net/profile...Von-Bernstorff
Charlotte von Bernstorff is not only a Countess but a Professor Doctor in Psychology too. Impressive!
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10-21-2022, 08:19 PM
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Madeleine Ferner Johansen (b.7 March 1993) [daughter of Cathrine Ferner (b.1962) {herself eldest of five children of Princess Astrid of Norway (b.1932) & her late husband Johan Martin Jacobsen, who became Johan Martin Ferner in 1927 (1927-2015) } & her husband Arild Johansen (b.1961)] married Ole Aleksander Skjonhaug Karlsen in Asker Church in Oslo on 15 October.
Her only brother Sebastien (b.9 March 1990) & his partner Belinda Lundstrøm (b.1988) have two children: Nicoline (2019) & Ferdinand (b.January 2021).
Sources: https://www.nettyroyal.nl/events/roy...-october-2022/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cjxn_pdqdKT/
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11-03-2022, 10:41 AM
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Joachim Charles Napoléon Murat, Prince of Monte-Corvo (b.3 May 1973) [son of Jochim Louis Napoléon Murat, 8th Prince Murat, 7th Prince of Pontecorvo (b.1944) & his first wife, Laurence Marie Gabrielle Mouton (b.1945)] married religiously Yasmine Lorraine Briki (b.23 February 1982) at Les Invalides Cathedral in Paris on 22 October; their civil wedding took place in the town hall of 10th disctrict of Paris on 5 March 2012
They already have a son Joachim Georges Laurent Napoléon (5-8-2021).
Sources: https://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...e-4702-25.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachi...ife_and_family
A few Instagram accounts.
Hélie Marie Auguste Jacques Bertrand Philippe, 10th Duc de Noailles (b.16 July 1943) [son of François Agénor Alexandre Hélie 9th Duc de Noailles (1905-2009) & his wife Charlotte Marie Blanche Suzanne Elisabeth Michelle, nee de Caumont La Force (1917-2002)] married, as his second wife, Madame Joëlle Chapelon, in Paris on 21 October.
He married firstly, in Epinay-Champlâtreux civilly on 9 March and religiously on 11 March 1972 Cécile Nadèje Marie Paule Gonin (1945-2014).
She was already pregnant then - exactly four months after their religious wedding their firstborn daughter, Julie, was born.
After her they had two more children: Marie-Alicia (b.8 May 1975) and Emmanuel, Duc d'Ayen (b.14 February 1983).
Sources: https://www.angelfire.com/realm/goth.../noailles.html
https://eurohistoryjournal.blogspot....-noailles.html
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11-03-2022, 10:56 AM
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Joachim Charles Napoléon Murat, Prince of Monte-Corvo (b.3 May 1973) [son of Jochim Louis Napoléon Murat, 8th Prince Murat, 7th Prince of Pontecorvo (b.1944) & his first wife, Laurence Marie Gabrielle Mouton (b.1945)] married religiously Yasmine Lorraine Briki (b.23 February 1982) at Les Invalides Cathedral in Paris on 22 October; their civil wedding took place in the town hall of 10th disctrict of Paris on 5 March 2012
They already have a son Joachim Georges Laurent Napoléon (5-8-2021).
Sources: https://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...e-4702-25.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachi...ife_and_family
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Thanks for keeping us posted and your attention to detail with the links. Recently I had to search the Murat family history, listed above, for a frivolous reason. We found in one of the gazillion antique shops in upstate New York a decanter from a Napoleonic War theme collection. It's now in our basement bar/game room/library. It looks like this and we placed it next to the Prince Eugene of Savoy decanter we already had so they engage in their memories.
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11-12-2022, 10:45 AM
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The marriage took place on 10 November, at Chelsea Old Town Hall, between Edward William Fitzalan-Howard, 18th Duke of Norfolk, GCVO, DL, Earl Marshal and Premier Duke in the Peerage of England (b.2 December 1956) [son of the late Miles Francis Stapleton Fitzalan-Howard 17th Duke of Norfolk, KG, GCVO, CB, CBE, MC, DL (1915-2002) & his wife Ann Mary Teresa, nee Constable-Maxwell (1927-2013)] & the Honourable Mrs Francesca Vaughan Herbert (b.1963) [former wife of the Honourable Henry Malcolm (Harry) Herbert (b.2 March 1959), scion of the Earls of Carnarvon, and second daughter of late Jonathan Stuart Vaughan Bevan (1940-2007) & his wife Victoria, nee Leycester (b. 1940)].
It is the Duke of Norfolk's second marriage. He married 1stly on 27 June 1987 (and divorced this year) Georgina Susan Gore (b.30 January 1962), scion of the Earls Temple of Stowe, by whom he has issue:
Henry Fitzalan Howard, styled Earl of Arundel & Surrey (b.3 December 1987), Lady Rachel Fitzalan Howard (b.10 June 1989), Lord Thomas Fitzalan Howard (b.14 March 1992), Lady Isabel Fitzalan Howard (b.7 February 1994), and Lord Philip Fitzalan Howard (b.14 July 1996).
The new Duchess of Norfolk has issue from her marriage to the Honourable Harry Herbert:
Chloe Victoria Herbert (b.1994), Francesca Jeanie Herbert (b.21 November 1995) and William Henry Herbert (b.14 November 1999).
Sources: https://peeragenews.blogspot.com/202...rries-mrs.html
https://www.angelfire.com/realm/goth...a/norfolk.html
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12-03-2022, 08:05 PM
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Countess Florina von Preysing-Lichtenegg-Moos (b.1998) [daughter of Countess Anna von Ledebur-Wicheln (b.1965) (herself daughter of Princess Valerie von Altenburg (b.1931) & her late husband Count Mario von Ledebur- Wicheln (1931-2020)} & her husband Count Johannes von Preysing-Lichtenegg-Moos (b.1964)] married Alban Zerweck this year.
Florina is the eldest of four children and first one who marries; her siblings are Jacinta (b.2000), Mario (b.2002) & Lorenza (b.2005).
Source: Descendants of Archduke Franz Karl of Austria
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12-10-2022, 11:57 AM
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The marriage took place in December, 2022 (according to the bride's instagram account) between [Charles] Alexander Macdonald-Buchanan [born 1970], the fourth son of Alexander James Macdonald-Buchanan [1931-2017], by his his wife the former Elizabeth Vivian Smith [born 30 March, 1939], scion of the Barons Bicester, and Flora Caroline Soames [born 1982], scion of that landed gentry family, daughter of the Hon Jeremy Bernard Soames [born 25 May, 1952], by his wife the former Susanna Keith [born 23 Oct, 1952], and a granddaughter of the late Baron Soames, GCMG, GCVO [1920-87], by his wife Mary Spencer-Churchill [1922-2014], scion of the Dukes of Marlborough, Lady of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, daughter of the Rt Hon Sir Winston Spencer-Churchill, KG [1894-1965], Prime Minister 1940-45, and 1951-55.
Alexander and Flora are parents of a daughter, Lily, born 19 April, 2020.
It will be Alexander's second marriage. His first was to Poppy Augusta Fraser, of the Lords Lovat, by whom he has two children.
Source: https://peeragenews.blogspot.com/202...-marriage.html
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12-11-2022, 07:38 PM
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Emmanuel Manfred Juste, Prince of Croy-Collato (b.9 December 1990) [elder of two children of Prince Guillaume of Croy (b.1950) {himself son of Prince Emmanuel of Croy (1908-1997) & his wife Nicole, nee Countess de Marnix de Sainte-Aldegonde (1919-2011)} & his wife Isabelle, nee Countess von Collalto und San Salvatore (b.1960) {herself daughter of Manfred, late Prince von Collalto und San Salvatore (1932-2004) & his wife Maria de la Trinidad, nee Castillo y Moreno, Marquesa de Rafol de Almunia (b.1937)}] married Olimpia Franzen [second of three children and elder daughter of Jacopo Franzen (b.1961) & his wife Laura Cristiana dei Conti Cibrario (b.1964) {herself daughter of Nobile Carlo dei conti Cibrario (b.1932) & his wife Maria Donatella Leonetti dei conti di San Janni (b.1940)}] reportedly in July.
A groom has a younger sister Violette Maria Trinidad Giuliana (b.12 February 1995)
A-bride has an older brother Roberto and a younger sister Malvina.
Sources: Descendants of Grand Duke Karl of Baden
https://eurohistoryjournal.blogspot....ely-house.html
Baron Philip de Bertouch-Lehn (b.1989) [younger son of Countess Camilla Holstein (1959-2010) {herself daughter of Princess Gabriela of Luxembourg (b.1925) & her late husband Knut, Count Holstein (1919-2001)} & her former husband, Baron Eric de Bertouch-Lehn (1956-2019)] married Sara Slotte this year.
The groom's only brother Nicholas (b.1986) is married to Eva Maria Marcher (b.1988) since 2015; they have a daughter Isabelle (b.2016) and a son (b.2018, name unkmown).
Source: http://heinbruins.nl/Nassau.html
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12-11-2022, 09:03 PM
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Emmanuel Manfred Juste, Prince of Croy-Collato (b.9 December 1990) [elder of two children of Prince Guillaume of Croy (b.1950) {himself son of Prince Emmanuel of Croy (1908-1997) & his wife Nicole, nee Countess de Marnix de Sainte-Aldegonde (1919-2011)} & his wife Isabelle, nee Countess von Collalto und San Salvatore (b.1960) {herself daughter of Manfred, late Prince von Collalto und San Salvatore (1932-2004) & his wife Maria de la Trinidad, nee Castillo y Moreno, Marquesa de Rafol de Almunia (b.1937)}] married Olimpia Franzen [second of three children and elder daughter of Jacopo Franzen (b.1961) & his wife Laura Cristiana dei Conti Cibrario (b.1964) {herself daughter of Nobile Carlo dei conti Cibrario (b.1932) & his wife Maria Donatella Leonetti dei conti di San Janni (b.1940)}] reportedly in July.
A groom has a younger sister Violette Maria Trinidad Giuliana (b.12 February 1995)
A-bride has an older brother Roberto and a younger sister Malvina.
Sources: Descendants of Grand Duke Karl of Baden
https://eurohistoryjournal.blogspot....ely-house.html
Baron Philip de Bertouch-Lehn (b.1989) [younger son of Countess Camilla Holstein (1959-2010) {herself daughter of Princess Gabriela of Luxembourg (b.1925) & her late husband Knut, Count Holstein (1919-2001)} & her former husband, Baron Eric de Bertouch-Lehn (1956-2019)] married Sara Slotte this year.
The groom's only brother Nicholas (b.1986) is married to Eva Maria Marcher (b.1988) since 2015; they have a daughter Isabelle (b.2016) and a son (b.2018, name unkmown).
Source: Descendants of Duke Wilhelm of Nassau
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I was going to ask is the Collato und Salvatore family extinct in the male line?
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12-11-2022, 10:05 PM
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I was going to ask is the Collato und Salvatore family extinct in the male line?
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It is, yes, since the death of Prince Manfred in 2004. Isabelle is the oldest of Manfred's five daughters.
Manfred's father had a younger brother, who married, but did not then have any children.
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12-18-2022, 03:26 PM
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Prince Gourami "Ugo" Bagration-Mukhransky of Georgia (b.14 February 1985) [youngest of four children of late Prince George Bagration-Mukhransky of Georgia (1944-2008) and only together by his second wife Nuria, nee Llopis Oliart (b.1953)] married civilly Niki "Nekia" Lane in Benahavis, Malaga province (Spain) on 19 November.
Source: https://eurohistoryjournal.blogspot....f-georgia.html
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