Saudi Succession

[Mademoiselle Lilo]

He is fine lilo ... Prince Muqrin will succeed him in case of vacancy GOD forbid or will succeed him & the king in case of vacancy of both at the same time. In other words prince Muqrin is now the second in line to the throne following crown prince Salman.

thanks god
i think it's sound like good idea to have prince Muqrin as back up although i think there other reason behind the appointment.

 

[Rossina]

thanks god
i think it's sound like good idea to have prince Muqrin as back up although i think there other reason behind the appointment.

The reason behind the appointment in my opinion, is to ensure the stability of the regime in the Kingdom for the coming years. As you know King Abdullah is 90 years old & two of his crown princes passed away during his region before current crown prince Salman who is also nearly 80 years old. Even prince Muqrin is 70.

 

[Mademoiselle Lilo]

well those are good reason Rossina but as you said even prince Muqrin is 70 so if they want to solve the problem they should choose someone younger;King is 92 and Cp around 80 so i think this time they could choose someone over the 50 or even 60 Imo.

 

[Rossina]

That`s true ,but unfortunately not possible so far because as you know according to the rules applied the Saudi throne should pass to the male sons of the founder. The late King Abdulaziz passed away in 1953 & prince Muqrin is his youngest surviving son. To do so they should transfer the right to the next generations.

 

[Rossina]

Saudi Prince Muqrin receives oaths of allegiance

Prince Muqrin bin Abdulaziz, recently appointed as the second-in-line to the Saudi throne, began receiving oaths of allegiance on Sunday.

Royal family members, ministers, religious figures and scholars and crowds of ordinary citizens congratulated Prince Muqrin and voiced their oath of allegiance to him as the second-in-line to the throne.

 

[Al_bina]

Saudi royal calls for regime change in Riyadh | World news | The Guardian

A senior Saudi prince has launched an unprecedented call for change in the country’s leadership, as it faces its biggest challenge in years in the form of war, plummeting oil prices and criticism of its management of Mecca, scene of last week’s hajj tragedy.

The prince, one of the grandsons of the state’s founder, Abdulaziz Ibn Saud, has told the Guardian that there is disquiet among the royal family – and among the wider public – at the leadership of King Salman, who acceded the throne in January.

The collapse of Saudi Arabia is inevitable | Middle East Eye

On Tuesday 22 September, Middle East Eye broke the story of a senior member of the Saudi royal family calling for a “change” in leadership to fend off the kingdom’s collapse.

In a letter circulated among Saudi princes, its author, a grandson of the late King Abdulaziz Ibn Saud, blamed incumbent King Salman for creating unprecedented problems that endangered the monarchy’s continued survival.

“We will not be able to stop the draining of money, the political adolescence, and the military risks unless we change the methods of decision making, even if that implied changing the king himself,” warned the letter.

 

[Al_bina]

The House of Saud is preparing for a "battle royale" | Asia Times

For monarchies, wars of succession appear to be a regular phenomenon. While the House of Saud has largely succeeded in maintaining a smooth system of succession, its internal strength seems to be eroding as the new generation of princes starts eyeing kingship.

While Prince Muhammad bin Salman, the current Saudi defense minister, deputy crown prince and son of King Salman, is believed to be the most powerful person in Saudi Arabia, he is not the lawful heir.

In 2015, according to the tradition, Muqrin bin Abdulaziz, the youngest of the sons of the Kingdom’s founder, Abdulaziz bin Abdul Rahman Al Saud (Ibn Saud), became the Crown Prince.

 

[Rossina]

Mohammed bin Salman becomes Saudi Crown Prince with 31 out of 34 votes
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gulf/2017/06/21/Mohammed-bin-Salman-becomes-Saudi-Crown-Prince-with-majority-of-vote.html

Wednesday, 21 June 2017

Thirty-one out of 34 members of Saudi Arabia's Allegiance Council chose Mohammed bin Salman to become the kingdom's Crown Prince on Wednesday morning.

 

[Mademoiselle Lilo]

no surprise at all Prince Mohammed bin Nayef had no role as Crown Prince and Prince Mohammed was doing all the job for couple of years now.

 

[Al_bina]

Does the new development in question mean that the succession line will move to King Salman's bloodline?

 

[Mademoiselle Lilo]

i don't thins saw,the appointment is huge steep forward in matter of inculding new generation in the rule,still those big important decisions like succession are decided by the Family Council of Al Saud not only the King.

 

[Al_bina]

i don't thins saw,the appointment is huge steep forward in matter of inculding new generation in the rule,still those big important decisions like succession are decided by the Family Council of Al Saud not only the King.

It is impossible to determine what has been happening behind the closed doors of Saudi palaces. King Salman has appointed his sons to be a state minister of energy and an ambassador to USA. So Prince Mohammed bin Salman's appointment is not surprising. It is rumoured that King Salman may abdicate in favour of the current Crown Prince, who is a bold reformer.

 

[Mademoiselle Lilo]

It is impossible to determine what has been happening behind the closed doors of Saudi palaces. King Salman has appointed his sons to be a state minister of energy and an ambassador to USA. So Prince Mohammed bin Salman's appointment is not surprising. It is rumoured that King Salman may abdicate in favour of the current Crown Prince, who is a bold reformer.

you are right you'll never know for sure what happening behind the closed doors,there is also a possibility that the new generation of princes had enough and want to take the lead from the old guards.

 

[Al_bina]

Saudi Arabia's Next King Moves to Secure Power By Confining Cousin to Palace

The Saudi prince removed as second-in-line to the throne last week, Mohammed bin Nayef, has been confined to his palace in the Red Sea city of Jeddah, according to officials.
The move is reportedly a bid to ensure no challenge to his 31-year-old successor, the modernizing face of Saudi Arabia and son of ageing King Salman, Mohammed bin Salman, four former and current Saudi and U.S. officials told the New York Times. ...

The title in this article may indicate that the US expects Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to succeed his father.

 

[Al_bina]

Arab Media Reveal Failed Assassination Attempt against Saudi Crown Prince | FARSNEWS

TEHRAN (FNA)- Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has escaped an assassination attempt at one of the royal family palaces in Jeddah, Arab media reported.
Arabic language Mer'at al-Jazeera quoted sources close to the royal family as saying on Sunday that bin Salman was targeted by an assassination attempt in Jeddah by one of the Saudi princes.
Also, a western diplomat in Riyadh said that the Saudi crown prince wasn’t harmed in the failed attempt and the prince who made the move was arrested.
Bin Salman's ambitious acts in recent months and his attempts to dethrone the rivals have created wroth among other Saudi princes.

 

[Rossina]

Exclusive: After Khashoggi murder, some Saudi royals turn against king’s favorite son
LONDON (Reuters) - Amid international uproar over the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, some members of Saudi Arabia’s ruling family are agitating to prevent Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman from becoming king, three sources close to the royal court said.

 

[Friedrich Karl II]

Exclusive: After Khashoggi murder, some Saudi royals turn against king’s favorite son
LONDON (Reuters) - Amid international uproar over the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, some members of Saudi Arabia’s ruling family are agitating to prevent Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman from becoming king, three sources close to the royal court said.

Well, I doubt that anything will happen if then there is not very notable opposition in the royal family. Sauds are not stupid enough that they would begin infighting overy succession.