Saudi Succession - Page 2

blauerengel · #21 10-28-2011, 12:00 AM

Well,now they chose Prince Nayef - I guess they didn´t find any other Saudi prince who is younger,more handsome,modern,innovative and humourous than he is (no claws intended) but seriously,I tought the people of Saudi Arabia want to see some real change and social reforms.... he looks just like a colourless copy of the conservative leaders before him....

dazzling · #22 10-29-2011, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ahmed95

An obvious choice to name Prince Nayef. If he becomes king, he wont cancel out any of Abdullah's reforms because that will harm the stability of the Al Saud.

He is conservative and he is not the most healthy guy out there. A massive generation shift will come soon and it should pass on to the Al Faisals(sons of Faisal)

All the big senior princes are in their 70's at least

The Al Faisals sons are from the same age group of Prince Nayef and many other royals so we would be back to square 1. Yes the Al Faisals would be one of the best choice to lead Saudi forward but also the younger generation could do so. I personally think it should go to the best and most suitable not to necessary to brother/s.

lady blue · #23 10-30-2011, 07:34 AM

what most ppl dont know is that king AbdulAziz wrote that throne is for the most sutable of his sons and then grandsons and so on/ and that any son/grandson from a mother not from a tribale saudi family will not be put in this possition meaning that Turki alfaisal (his mother is turkish) can not be named crown prince/
Talal , mishaal, muteb , mugren the sons of king abdul Aziz cannot be as well.
and Blaueregel we are happy with this choice we want a leader that is fair and kind and also just / i dont think his good looks and humor will be the qualities we look for in a future king! and yes we are a conservative country and we like it.

blauerengel · #24 10-30-2011, 01:08 PM

I thought there are a lot of people who want to have more justice,equal opportunities and fairness-these are values that are also compatible with Islam because modern laws and new approaches to the problems of our time don´t mean that you need to abandon your moral and ethical principles.

dazzling · #25 10-31-2011, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lady blue

what most ppl dont know is that king AbdulAziz wrote that throne is for the most sutable of his sons and then grandsons and so on/ and that any son/grandson from a mother not from a tribale saudi family will not be put in this possition meaning that Turki alfaisal (his mother is turkish) can not be named crown prince/
Talal , mishaal, muteb , mugren the sons of king abdul Aziz cannot be as well.
and Blaueregel we are happy with this choice we want a leader that is fair and kind and also just / i dont think his good looks and humor will be the qualities we look for in a future king! and yes we are a conservative country and we like it.

I thought that was written by the current King, King Abdullah, he set up the council in 2006 or 2008.

lady blue · #26 10-31-2011, 01:20 PM

nop it was by king AbdulAziz

Kasumi · #27 11-17-2011, 05:02 PM

Saudi royal family split by Crown Prince appointment - Telegraph
The tightly managed Saudi royal family has been split by the decision to appoint a hardline conservative as Crown Prince, with a senior prince resigning from its innermost council.
Prince Talal bin Abdul Aziz, the most liberal of the country's senior royals and father of one of the world's richest men, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, posted a statement on his website saying he was quitting the Allegiance Council.
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It was no secret that Prince Talal was unhappy about the likely promotion of his half-brother, but it is likely that his resignation is as much about the failure to hold a wide-ranging debate in the Allegiance Council as the decision itself.

Senior Saudi royal resigns from Allegiance Council | Reuters

Rossina · #28 03-27-2014, 03:58 PM

RIYADH (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia's Prince Muqrin bin Abdulaziz, a former intelligence chief in the conservative Islamic kingdom, has been appointed deputy crown prince, Saudi state television reported on Thursday, making it more likely he will one day become king.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A2Q1GU20140327

Mademoiselle Lilo · #29 03-27-2014, 06:33 PM

i am so sorry to ask this question but happen to former CP?

Rossina · #30 03-27-2014, 06:56 PM

He is fine lilo ... Prince Muqrin will succeed him in case of vacancy GOD forbid or will succeed him & the king in case of vacancy of both at the same time. In other words prince Muqrin is now the second in line to the throne following crown prince Salman.

Mademoiselle Lilo · #31 03-27-2014, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rossina

He is fine lilo ... Prince Muqrin will succeed him in case of vacancy GOD forbid or will succeed him & the king in case of vacancy of both at the same time. In other words prince Muqrin is now the second in line to the throne following crown prince Salman.

thanks god

i think it's sound like good idea to have prince Muqrin as back up although i think there other reason behind the appointment.

Rossina · #32 03-27-2014, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mademoiselle Lilo

thanks god

i think it's sound like good idea to have prince Muqrin as back up although i think there other reason behind the appointment.

The reason behind the appointment in my opinion, is to ensure the stability of the regime in the Kingdom for the coming years. As you know King Abdullah is 90 years old & two of his crown princes passed away during his region before current crown prince Salman who is also nearly 80 years old. Even prince Muqrin is 70.

Mademoiselle Lilo · #33 03-27-2014, 08:08 PM

well those are good reason Rossina but as you said even prince Muqrin is 70 so if they want to solve the problem they should choose someone younger;King is 92 and Cp around 80 so i think this time they could choose someone over the 50 or even 60 Imo.

Rossina · #34 03-27-2014, 08:49 PM

That`s true ,but unfortunately not possible so far because as you know according to the rules applied the Saudi throne should pass to the male sons of the founder. The late King Abdulaziz passed away in 1953 & prince Muqrin is his youngest surviving son. To do so they should transfer the right to the next generations.

Rossina · #35 03-30-2014, 06:57 PM

Saudi Prince Muqrin receives oaths of allegiance

Prince Muqrin bin Abdulaziz, recently appointed as the second-in-line to the Saudi throne, began receiving oaths of allegiance on Sunday.

Royal family members, ministers, religious figures and scholars and crowds of ordinary citizens congratulated Prince Muqrin and voiced their oath of allegiance to him as the second-in-line to the throne.

Al_bina · #36 09-30-2015, 11:47 AM

Saudi royal calls for regime change in Riyadh | World news | The Guardian

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A senior Saudi prince has launched an unprecedented call for change in the country’s leadership, as it faces its biggest challenge in years in the form of war, plummeting oil prices and criticism of its management of Mecca, scene of last week’s hajj tragedy.

The prince, one of the grandsons of the state’s founder, Abdulaziz Ibn Saud, has told the Guardian that there is disquiet among the royal family – and among the wider public – at the leadership of King Salman, who acceded the throne in January.

The collapse of Saudi Arabia is inevitable | Middle East Eye

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On Tuesday 22 September, Middle East Eye broke the story of a senior member of the Saudi royal family calling for a “change” in leadership to fend off the kingdom’s collapse.

In a letter circulated among Saudi princes, its author, a grandson of the late King Abdulaziz Ibn Saud, blamed incumbent King Salman for creating unprecedented problems that endangered the monarchy’s continued survival.

“We will not be able to stop the draining of money, the political adolescence, and the military risks unless we change the methods of decision making, even if that implied changing the king himself,” warned the letter.

Al_bina · #37 10-16-2016, 12:08 PM

The House of Saud is preparing for a "battle royale" | Asia Times

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For monarchies, wars of succession appear to be a regular phenomenon. While the House of Saud has largely succeeded in maintaining a smooth system of succession, its internal strength seems to be eroding as the new generation of princes starts eyeing kingship.

While Prince Muhammad bin Salman, the current Saudi defense minister, deputy crown prince and son of King Salman, is believed to be the most powerful person in Saudi Arabia, he is not the lawful heir.

In 2015, according to the tradition, Muqrin bin Abdulaziz, the youngest of the sons of the Kingdom’s founder, Abdulaziz bin Abdul Rahman Al Saud (Ibn Saud), became the Crown Prince.

Rossina · #38 06-21-2017, 02:53 AM

Mohammed bin Salman becomes Saudi Crown Prince with 31 out of 34 votes
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...y-of-vote.html

Wednesday, 21 June 2017

Thirty-one out of 34 members of Saudi Arabia's Allegiance Council chose Mohammed bin Salman to become the kingdom's Crown Prince on Wednesday morning.

Mademoiselle Lilo · #39 06-21-2017, 06:50 AM

no surprise at all Prince Mohammed bin Nayef had no role as Crown Prince and Prince Mohammed was doing all the job for couple of years now.

Al_bina · #40 06-21-2017, 10:29 PM

Does the new development in question mean that the succession line will move to King Salman's bloodline?