Restoration of the Serbian Monarchy - Page 8

Cory · #**141** 03-04-2012, 12:15 PM

Hereditary Prince Petar has ever spoken in Serbian publicly?

fandesacs2003 · #**142** 03-04-2012, 12:16 PM

It is strange. The CPA is half Serbian half greek and he does not speeak any of the languages (up to his returm back to Serbia his serbian was very poor). I think that he was feeling without any connection to his family royal roots. Royalty in communist countries was considered a lost case. And he raised his boys without any connection to Yugoslavia. And when he wed his 2nd wife SHE put him into the role. He just follows her. He is the instrument to her ambition.

Cory · #**143** 03-04-2012, 12:38 PM

The Duchess of Segorbe never comes to Serbia to visit him?

Marc23 · #**144** 03-04-2012, 01:06 PM

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Hereditary Prince Petar has ever spoken in Serbian publicly?

Tried just few written words many years ago,but to no avail...

Marc23 · #**145** 03-04-2012, 01:10 PM

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The Duchess of Segorbe never comes to Serbia to visit him?

She did,few years ago for Alexander's 60th birthday...

Cory · #**146** 03-04-2012, 01:18 PM

But the advisers of the Royal Family do not try to influence the young Princes to learn Serbian?

Marc23 · #**147** 03-04-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fandesacs2003

It is strange. The CPA is half Serbian half greek and he does not speeak any of the languages (up to his returm back to Serbia his serbian was very poor). I think that he was feeling without any connection to his family royal roots. Royalty in communist countries was considered a lost case. And he raised his boys without any connection to Yugoslavia. And when he wed his 2nd wife SHE put him into the role. He just follows her. He is the instrument to her ambition.

This...he was unfortunately raised without the role of either father or mother by his side so who could teach him anything!?He was something like a forgotten child...

On his web page it is said that he speaks fluently 6 languages...Apart from his English that I have heard which is fluent(don't know about other languages,),but his Serbian is certainly far from fluent!

Cory · #**148** 03-04-2012, 01:24 PM

Certainly the Crown Prince did not have a happy childhood.

Marc23 · #**149** 03-04-2012, 01:25 PM

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The majority of Serbians seem to be in favour of Monarchy:

Balkans.com Business News : 64% of Serbians polled vote for Monarchy over Republic

As I said,this is also not true...I found for you an interview from 2011 in which CP and his wife told the press that in recent official poll research only 7 to 15 % of the population of Serbia are for the monarchy!

Blic Online | Srbi monarhiju po

Unfortunately,this is still far,far away from 64 % this unofficial poll claims...

Marc23 · #**150** 03-04-2012, 01:37 PM

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How do you explain the polls?

You know,sometimes media manipulation can lead to many wrong conclusions such as this :-(

fandesacs2003 · #**151** 03-04-2012, 01:47 PM

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This...he was unfortunately raised without the role of either father or mother by his side so who could teach him anything!?He was something like a forgotten child...

On his web page it is said that he speaks fluently 6 languages...Apart from his English that I have heard which is fluent(don't know about other languages,),but his Serbian is certainly far from fluent!

Raised by Aspasia Manou, being herself a widow very young. She entered to History, but did she find any hapiness after? We do not know.
It should alro be sad for a young boy to see his parents unable to take care of him.
What about his serbian uncle? Could he substitute a father?

I had a look at wikipedia and saw that Aspasia Manou used to live in Greece till 1967. Was he with her? Or he was in boarding schools for all his childhood?

Marc23 · #**152** 03-04-2012, 01:57 PM

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Raised by Aspasia Manou, being herself a widow very young. She entered to History, but did she find any hapiness after? We do not know.
It should alro be sad for a young boy to see his parents unable to take care of him.
What about his serbian uncle? Could he substitute a father?

No,as he was just under his care...he spent most of the childhood time in boarding schools which means that "taking care" just means that during his holidays from school he has someone to visit and come to...and his uncle was a man with open arms for him...unlike his parents!

It is also interesting that he found out about his father's death from the TV news while he was in military school in Germany...this about sums it up about what kind of relations he had with them...

Marc23 · #**153** 03-04-2012, 02:01 PM

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Raised by Aspasia Manou

They lived in villa "The Garden of Eden" in Venice...here is an article with some photos:

FictionalCities :: Venice - The Garden of Eden

fandesacs2003 · #**154** 03-04-2012, 02:09 PM

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They lived in villa "The Garden of Eden" in Venice...here is an article with some photos:

FictionalCities :: Venice - The Garden of Eden

Thanks! You seem to know everything.
Story is very romantic and very very sad.
CP looks a lot to his mum.
IMO most of money the CP might have comes from maternal side. I do not think his father being chassed from his country have managed to save money abroad.

Benjamin · #**155** 03-04-2012, 02:15 PM

The marriage of King Peter and Queen Alexandra was plagued by financial problems, in addition to his alcoholism and her mental troubles.

Cory · #**156** 03-04-2012, 02:23 PM

The marriage of King Petar II was quite full of difficult moments.

Marc23 · #**157** 03-04-2012, 05:23 PM

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Thanks! You seem to know everything.
Story is very romantic and very very sad.
CP looks a lot to his mum.
IMO most of money the CP might have comes from maternal side. I do not think his father being chassed from his country have managed to save money abroad.

Well,King Peter II once said for his wife during first years of their marriage:"Although Queen in name only,Alexandra spends like a real Queen."

Countess Maria Anna von Wurmbrand-Stuppach,also known as Eti Plesh wrote in her memoirs that her husband multimillionaire Arpad Plesch had a affair with Queen Alexandra...

There is also a rumor that CP Alexander sold the House without her consignment and has sent his mother into the care of Home for old people in Britain and took the money just for himself...

His father King Peter II also spent almost everything he had,so there was not much left from his side,apart from one golden watch that he left to Alexander...some money that he still had he left to his new acquired friends and their Church in US and just one small amount to Alexandra as his legal widow...Alexander got nothing,except for the watch!

Sad destiny for "cousin Sandra" as she was known at British Court prior to he marriage!

Marc23 · #**158** 03-04-2012, 05:29 PM

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The marriage of King Peter and Queen Alexandra was plagued by financial problems, in addition to his alcoholism and her mental troubles.

Yes,he was a heavy drinker and Alexandra was prone to pills and suicide as she tried it several times....She was very much in love with Peter II but he just couldn't keep it up with her after just few years of marriage!

Benjamin · #**159** 03-04-2012, 08:38 PM

Indeed, very sad; just goes to show that royals are susceptible to the same issues as non-royals. Prince Andrej also had a rather turbulent personal life. Apparently his third wife was a real creature.

Are the sons of Prince Tomislav and Princess Linda at all active in Serbia? Did not one of them have a daughter and serve in the armed forces?

Marc23 · #**160** 03-04-2012, 11:28 PM

Yes,he did.Prince Andrej was a great womanizer and as Prince Tomislav said in his memoires:"The women simply adored him.".His first two wives and also cousins Christina von Hessen-Kassel and Kira Melita von Leiningen were involved in a fight over him...later he left his second wife and children and Princess Kira had to sell her family Romanov jewels for the price that equaled just 3% of it's real value,but they got money and were living 2 years just from that sale...

Prince Andrej's third wife was previously lover of his brother King Peter II and also married to a Chinese doctor Lou.Her name was Milica(known as Mici Lou),but when she married Andrej,she changed her name to Eva Maria and she as his widow is also one of the legal heirs of King Alexander I...She was one of the members of so called anti-church in Libertyville of which Peter and later Andrej was a members.Peter II left everything that he had to this Church and his friends...

Princess Eva Maria gave just one interview and here it is,unfortunately only in Serbian,but just to get the idea how she looks like:

Kraljev testament Mici Lou - YouTube

Prince Tomislav's wife Linda lives in a Villa that has been given to her when she is in Belgrade,but most of the time she is on relation between London and Belgrade like her sons...although I think they live now more in London.

Prince George(elder one) was not in armed forces but studied Military Academy which he later quieted...He has out of wedlock daughter Anastasia with a girl named Milica Milutinovic(a bit of a rebel),but as she never wanted to marry him under his conditions they split up soon after the birth of their daughter...She didn't want to marry him because she and her mother are members of the Adventist Church which prohibited them to marry someone who is supported by Serbian Church and under it's Orthodox laws-as George wanted...few months ago she was even denied visa for Great Britain and everybody thinks that it has something to do with her past with the Prince...

Prince Michail(younger one) is I think also in London right now...While in Serbia,he tried to do some photoshooting as a model,but it never worked out!