Restoration of the Serbian Monarchy - Page 5

NotAPretender · #81 07-23-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory

There could be communists who are against the Royal Family and do not want the Monarchy.

One does not have to be "communist" to be against monarchy.

It's pretty clear that the Serbian people are not enthusiastic about restoring a monarchy. I am actually eligible to hold Serbian citizenship, as they base their citizenship requirements similarly to Israel's right of return; some of my family lived in what is now Serbia until the 1940s. However, I would never avail myself of that option, as the Serbs participated in the wholesale extermination of my family in concentration camps that they set-up with the full knowledge and consent of Russia, beginning in 1944 and continuing through 1948.

Cory · #82 07-23-2011, 07:51 PM

I heard the polls say the majority of the population is in favour of the monarchy.

Franzium · #83 08-09-2011, 11:39 PM

I heard in a recent poll in Serbia 64 % are in favor of the monarchy instead of the republic..

Alexandrovich · #84 08-10-2011, 01:40 PM

I would like to have all the reasons why some people in some European countries where were abolished the monarchies want the Monarchies back? Well, I am about to do an essay about Restoration of the abolished monarchies in Europe. So I would like some reason to support. Because of the popularity? government? or something else?

Thank you...

Nevertheless, I am cheering the Serbian Royal Family back to the throne again, as well as the other abolished monarchies in Europe.

principessa · #85 08-10-2011, 02:02 PM

Are there any movements or plans to restore the monarchy in Serbia?

jonc93 · #86 08-10-2011, 05:16 PM

I think Alexander and his sons lack of fluency in the Serbian Language might be what's keeping them back in all honesty! Do the Serbs want a King and Crown Prince who can not fluently speak the language? Alexander has been in Serbia so many years and he says he can speak the language fluently but he gives most of his interviews in English. I've never seen any videos of him speaking Serbian, if anyone has one please send the link my way! Honestly he and his soon need to learn to read write and speak Serbian and get out there and meet the people and perform official engagements. Without that I don't think the Serbian Monarchy will ever be restored without that. Does his son even live In Serbia? How can they have a Crown Prince that doesn't even live in the country...

Cory · #87 08-12-2011, 02:36 AM

I soppose you are totally right.

DWC · #88 08-12-2011, 10:21 PM

I don’t know how well the Crown Prince and his sons speak Serbian I know on the Royal Families website the biographies for the sons say they are ‘continuing their Serbian studies’. As I believe they all work abroad I doubt they get much chance to practice. I do find a little strange that presumably they never learnt the language while they were growing up, but perhaps their father thought the Royal Family would never return.

I don’t think Hereditary Prince Peter lives in Serbia I believe he still works in the USA. I wonder how well known he is in Serbia? not very I would imagine which could be a problem when he succeeds his father if there is still hope for restoring the monarchy. As he is the heir I personally think he should live in Serbia, hopefully oneday he will marry and raise his children in Serbia. Maybe a big royal wedding in Belgrade will capture the imagination of the public and help the push to restore the monarchy!

Cory · #89 08-22-2011, 06:06 PM

They'd better learn Serbian perfectly than being in contradiction with the Royal Family of Montenegro:

Zvanina internet prezentacija Kraljevskog doma Karaorevi

NoorMeansLight · #90 09-11-2011, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DWC

I don’t know how well the Crown Prince and his sons speak Serbian I know on the Royal Families website the biographies for the sons say they are ‘continuing their Serbian studies’. As I believe they all work abroad I doubt they get much chance to practice. I do find a little strange that presumably they never learnt the language while they were growing up, but perhaps their father thought the Royal Family would never return.

I believe that too. It must be a very difficult language to master, particularly if one hasn't tried to learn it while growing up. I think it's also quite hard to pronounce most of the words rightly.
Apart from the SRF's linguistic skills, I think a restoration in the Balkans nowadays seems even more possible -- let's see if that could be Serbia.

BeatrixFan · #91 09-11-2011, 09:55 AM

I'd like to see Alexander as Head of State in Serbia, I think he's worked hard to prove his loyalty to his homeland and he's doing all the right things to show that he's dedicated but I think a restoration can't be rushed and Alexander is doing the right thing at the moment. He has a certain amount of respect from politicians who consult him or ask his advice or keep him inform, he has the White Palace to reside in, his titles are recognized and he's able to do things he couldn't have dreamed of 30 years ago. So I think that it's a case of one step at a time.

Madame Royale · #92 09-11-2011, 11:07 AM

But he and his family inspire little interest and more scrutiny than anything. Recent footage, as but one example, show a clearly irrate Alexander caught in a slinging match with ordinary folk after they made their feelings known to him after a speech he had delivered to a gathered crowd. He actively engaged in an open dispute and his wife attempted to pacify him as one of his sons ushered to his side.

A deposed pretender really can't afford to throw his weight around if he should ever hope to regain any real social standing within Serbia. He walks a fine line between irrelevance to near non existance for a good many I'd imagine.

Whatever he feels like he's doing, evidently, it's not as far reaching as he may like and realistically, it never will be imo.

BeatrixFan · #93 09-11-2011, 11:32 AM

That's true, I haven't seen that footage but he has a very fine line to tread and more instances like that won't warm the people to him at all.

Marc23 · #94 09-11-2011, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NoorMeansLight

I believe that too. It must be a very difficult language to master, particularly if one hasn't tried to learn it while growing up. I think it's also quite hard to pronounce most of the words rightly.
Apart from the SRF's linguistic skills, I think a restoration in the Balkans nowadays seems even more possible -- let's see if that could be Serbia.

No chance for monarchy in Serbia,believe me...I am Serbian,support monarchy and live in Belgrade,but that is the current state of things...

As for CP Alexander's Serbian...when he speaks it looks funny and people often make fun of him...unlike Princess Elizabeth whose Serbian is much better.Her brother Alexander speaks even better,but he lives in Paris far away from the spotlight and not many people know about him...

It's not good that CP Alexander failed to master Serbian considering that even his wife speaks Serbian much better than him and they live in Serbia now for 11 years...people often wonder how many other people can learn Serbian for much shorter time and their CP can't speak properly...

I met CP couple several times and can say that CP is a "jolly chap",but personally not really interested in taking the mighty job of restoring the monarchy,unlike his wife Katherine who is very,very ambitious about this question...and she is the "machine" of everything which is in a way good,but in another way not so much!

Cory · #95 02-14-2012, 07:45 AM

Which politicians are clearly royalists?

latinist · #96 02-24-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc23

No chance for monarchy in Serbia,believe me...I am Serbian,support monarchy and live in Belgrade,but that is the current state of things...

As for CP Alexander's Serbian...when he speaks it looks funny and people often make fun of him...

Let me give you an example: in 1866, in Romania came a german prince, who became "ruler prince of the romanian princedoms" at the beginning, during that time the romanian princedoms won their independency in 1877, it was 1881 when he was declared king of Romania and he ruled till 1914. That means 48 years, the longest reigning in the romanian history.
Do you think he spoke a word in romanian at the time he became head of state?
How well do you think he was able to speak romanian by the time of his death? Not even by then did he manage to speak the language really well, in almost 50 years! He still made mistakes. His nephew, who became king after him, did not have any greater achievements with the language either, still he tried and the people accepted and respected him as a king.

Another example: Greece had a king who came at the age of 18 from Denmark to the greak throne. He also didn't speak a word in greak. And he ruled for 50 years and was very loved and respected.

I know it's important for a monarch to know the language of the country he will be ruling, but I think that if we speak about monarchy restorations, we have to take into consideration the great differences between constitutional monarchy and republics, as forms of government.
We want to restore a monarchy because we are not satisfied with the way things go for a country as a republic, or do we want to restore a monarchy just because some of the heirs to a throne were "cool" or appealing, interesting or good looking and it seems to us they were more pleasant as a public person than the politicians that are now ruling?

Then there would be no difference from the situation in which we, people, vote for a guy to be president just because he laughs or grins in a more pleasant way than his opponent (this actually happened in my country, unfortunately for me, I was also "charmed" by his laughters).

I think the major problem is that a majority of people doesn't really know how a constitutional monarchy actually works, as a system. We are talking about an institution, not a person.

James VI · #97 02-25-2012, 07:02 AM

I have had an interest in the old Serbian/Yugoslav Monarchy for many years, i have a great deal of respect for Crown Prince Alexander and admire the work that he and his wife are doing, in Serbia. That said, he will never become King of Serbia. We need to move on. It is right that we should show the utmost respect and sympathy towards those Royal Houses who are no longer reigning, but surely our greatest concern is to support those last remaining Royal houses who are reigning, as this is of far greater urgency.

fearghas · #98 02-25-2012, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by James VI

It is right that we should show the utmost respect and sympathy towards those Royal Houses who are no longer reigning, but surely our greatest concern is to support those last remaining Royal houses who are reigning, as this is of far greater urgency.

Why is it not possible to both support the reigning monarchs and support restoration? Don't understand why it has to be one or the other

Next Star · #99 02-26-2012, 12:33 AM

It was mention the tongue of Serbian is complex to learn it takes years to learn it.
I respect the crown prince for not going into politics while using other ways to try work to restore the monarchy.

James VI · #**100** 02-26-2012, 07:03 AM

To Fearghas - yes of course it is possible to do both and i admire those who commit themselves to restoration, but we surely must face reality. The political and social factors which have thus far prevented restoration in Greece, are even more acute in Serbia, Bulgaria, et al. Why, we should ask ourselves, is King Michael of Romania, the only former Monarch with any realistic chance of restoration, still no nearer to regaining his throne, more than twenty years after the fall of communism? I would love to see the House of Karadjordjevic restored in Serbia, to see the last stain of Titoism finally washed away, but i realise that this is probably just a pipe dream. I would rather focus all of my energies in support of those last few remaining Monarchies who are reigning, as this is not only more realistic, but ultimately, more rewarding.