Succession to the Romanian Throne, Part 1

[Enmebaragesi]

Originally Posted by Cory

Neither of them live in Romania or speak Romanian and they are not really connected in a close way to the country and the people.

Then that rather settles the matter, doesn't it? Unless the two young ladies change their minds eventually and build up a serious rapport with the Romanian people, then even if there are valid lines of succession elsewhere they hardly matter- any restoration would have to rise up organically via the democratic process and that is really only going happen within Michael's line, which is effectively extinct for the purposes of a restoration. Surely neither the present Queen-Pretender or her siblings are in any state to produce royal offspring!

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Enmebaragesi

Then that rather settles the matter, doesn't it? Unless the two young ladies change their minds eventually and build up a serious rapport with the Romanian people, then even if there are valid lines of succession elsewhere they hardly matter- any restoration would have to rise up organically via the democratic process and that is really only going happen within Michael's line, which is effectively extinct for the purposes of a restoration. Surely neither the present Queen-Pretender or her siblings are in any state to produce royal offspring!

From the Line proposed in 2007 the only one who could continue the hopes of the King for the restoration is Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills.

[LadyRohan]

Originally Posted by Enmebaragesi

Then that rather settles the matter, doesn't it? Unless the two young ladies change their minds eventually and build up a serious rapport with the Romanian people, then even if there are valid lines of succession elsewhere they hardly matter- any restoration would have to rise up organically via the democratic process and that is really only going happen within Michael's line, which is effectively extinct for the purposes of a restoration. Surely neither the present Queen-Pretender or her siblings are in any state to produce royal offspring!

That is indeed the crux of it

[Cory]

The president doesn't seem to be in favour of a referendum to restore the Monarchy:

http://m.adevarul.ro/news/politica/i...756/index.html

[maria-olivia]

This is not a scoop Cory !

[MAfan]

Well, the real scoop would be if the Presidente supported the restoration...

[Marengo]

I suppose he would be making himself unemployed if he did support it. So not a surprise indeed.

[Gaudete]

Originally Posted by Marengo

I suppose he would be making himself unemployed if he did support it. So not a surprise indeed.

If the Prime Minister of Romania supports it, that's big news. But the President is hardly like to welcome being turfed out like some retired civil servant. And the Romanian Presidency does have a certain reputation. I would have dropped dead from shock if he had have supported it, the fact that he doesn't is something I think most people just assumed.

[Cory]

The prime minister not only does not support it either but he want the Elisabeta Palace back to the state.

[tommy100]

I guess theres a big difference in some peoples' eyes from allowing the former King (and by that, his family) the rights to use a Palace that was once theirs for official use and letting the next generation, the 'pretender' to the throne, use it.

[Cory]

The King was allowed to use Elisabeta Palace because of the law regarding former Heads of State. The head of thr government does not agree the King's Family to continue to live in the Palace. According to the Law the Family will have to move in February. The Pretender to the Throne will live in his own residence.

[Andy T]

Shouldn't all this stuff about the palace be in the thread about palaces and residences? It has nothing to do with the question of succession. The state owns the palace and the lawmakers decide what happens to it.

[Cory]

The problem of Succession is indeed much more complex than the question of how long the King's Family will remain in the Elisabeta Palace.

[MAfan]

They are actually two very different matters and not necessarily correlated.
Please keep each discussion to its proper thread. Thanks.

[Cory]

HRH Princess Iriba,Mrs Walker, was I suppose declared innocent after the trial in the States so she could be put back on the List of the 2007 proposed Line. Also her children and grandchildren.

[MAfan]

IIRC she and her husband pleaded guilty, didn't they?

[Cory]

Originally Posted by MAfan

IIRC she and her husband pleaded guilty, didn't they?

But which was the verdict in the end? The case must be closed by now.

[Ish]

Originally Posted by Cory

But which was the verdict in the end? The case must be closed by now.

The verdict is guilty as that’s how she and her husband plead.

You can’t be found innocent if you plead guilty.

[Cory]

The case is closed anyway. Certainly everything that had happened was not because if her.
Her children had nothing to do with that story but they don't seem to be on the proposed Line list either.

[Duc_et_Pair]

It is an absurd saga anyway. With Christmas I will eat a Bambi which was killed for me. My new car has leather seats, I dare not to ask how many animals died for it. The Prince of Wales hunts foxes. The Infanta Elena loves bullfights. And oh yes, Princess Irina was somehow linked to cockfighting. Anyone can have thoughts about it, but that three successors are removed because one was involved in this, shows the complete over-reaction of former King Michael. We saw it again with his grandson Nicholas. The, how to say it, relation between sanction and misdemeanour is completely lost.