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04-14-2016, 10:09 AM
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Every Royal House has its own rules that can be changed by the parliament .
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04-14-2016, 11:51 AM
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Every Royal House has its own rules that can be changed by the parliament .
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The rules for changing the rules of succession vary from country to country and include a simple Act of Parliament, a change to the constitution or a royal decree.
The rules for changing "House" rules are, to my knowledge, not subject to parliamentary approval. In a republic, where a "royal house" has no constitutional basis in the republican constitution (not sure about Montenegro, where the house is recognised explicitly), what authority does the parliament have over house rules? I don't think Crown prince Rupprecht of Bavaria's decision to change the Bavarian Royal House rules concerning equal marriage was validated by an act of Parliament, for example.
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04-17-2016, 05:52 PM
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King Michael recognized the right of the Parliament to decide on this matter even in 2007. In no constitutional Monarchy the Succession is decided by the sovereign.
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04-18-2016, 02:58 AM
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AFAIK Romania is a republic.
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04-18-2016, 04:34 AM
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Because the country is a republic the documents regarding Succession signed after 1947 have no relevance.
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04-18-2016, 05:45 AM
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Not this cycle again..
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04-18-2016, 07:32 AM
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Because the country is a republic the documents regarding Succession signed after 1947 have no relevance.
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If only you would apply this logic to the documents containing the old line of succession, abolished in the same year, that have no validity, no relevance and no legality any longer either.
The King, as the head of the Royal House and the Royal Family of Romania, has an important task in ensuring his succession, for the sake of the monarchical cause in the country, and the continuation of the dynasty. In an abolished monarchy, it is the role of the head of the Royal Family to keep the cause going, not just with regards to restoration, but just as important, the preservation of history, property, philanthropic and idealistic causes connected with the Royal Family. It is extremely illogical, provocative and outright ridiculous to keep on suggesting that because he only has daughters, and because his eldest daughter has no children, the Royal Family should look outside the country for an heir to keep furthering the cause of the monarchy.
You cannot claim that one document from 1947 is valid, but another one is not. You equally cannot claim that the Crown Princess has an invalid title, but recognize the King, because it is within his rights to create titles, and you accepted that fully when Nicholas Medforth-Mills was made Prince Nicholas in 2010.
If the King chose not to change the line of succession and ask Parliament to approve it in the case of a restoration, he would not do his job as the Head of a Royal House, and the claim to the throne would die with him someday. He would be criticized by every monarchist for ignoring his responsibilities and not caring about the future, which is the exact opposite of what the Romanian Royal Family stands for.
You're disappointed with almost everything that has to do with Prince Radu. I am disappointed with events surrounding Nicholas M-M. So what? The cause is greater than one person, and the endgame is the future of the Royal Family and the restoration of the monarchy in Romania. That cannot happen without the King making his will clear, which he did in 2007, as did H.S.H the Prince of Hohenzollern, when he made it clear his family had 'no interest in the Romanian throne'.
How do we support the monarchy, the Royal Family and how do we convince our neighbours, our family and our friends to get this issue up on the agenda, and allow the change we want to happen?
It can't be done by trashing the Royal Family at every turn, and then claiming to support the monarchy. It won't be done by dreaming about finding a German Hohenzollern to come to Romania, like they did 150 years ago, and start a new dynasty. It will never happen.
Restarting the monarchy is hard enough, at least try to be realistic about what is doable and not. Otherwise you're just sabotaging the cause, and I'm not sure that's what you really want to do.
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04-28-2016, 01:29 AM
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05-02-2016, 06:29 AM
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The program to the celebration of the Romanian Crown 150 years
In the presence of:
HRH Crown Princess Margareta, Custodian of the Romanian Crown
HRH Prince Radu
HRH Princess Elena and HE Mr. Alexander Philips Nixon
HRH Princess Sofia
HRH Princess Maria
and descendants of Princess Ileana of Romania: Archduchess Maria Magdalena of Austria and Baron Hanns-Ulrich von Holzhausen
Programul sărbătorii Coroanei române la 150 de ani _ Familia Regală a României _ Royal Family of Romania
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05-02-2016, 06:45 AM
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No Karina Medforth Mills, no Elisabeth Biarneix? After all they are the new generation according the michaelist line of succesion.
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05-03-2016, 08:04 AM
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The Royal Family's Easter:
Crown Princess Margareta and Prince Radu celebrated Easter with the Romanian Orthodox Diocese of Stockholm, in the middle of the Romanian community.
Saturday, April 30, Prince Radu took part in the Night of the Resurrection service.
On Monday, May 2, The Crown Princess and Prince Radu attended the service the second day of Easter at St. John Chrysostom Episcopal Center chapel in Stockholm.
After the service, Their Royal Highnesses met with members of the Romanian community in Sweden. The meeting was attended by His Excellency Mr. Iulian Buga, Romanian Ambassador in Stockholm, with Mrs. Buga. It was the first time the Romanian Royal Family chooses to be with Romanians from northern Europe to the Holy Easter.
Their Majesties King Michael and Queen Anne received the Holy Light at their private residence in Switzerland.
Princess Maria attended the service at the Metropolitan Cathedral of the Resurrection Night in Cluj-Napoca, in the presence of His Beatitude Andrei, Metropolitan of Cluj.
Familia Regală, de sărbătoarea Sfintelor Paști _ Familia Regală a României _ Royal Family of Romania
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05-04-2016, 10:55 AM
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The Royal Family's Easter:
Crown Princess Margareta and Prince Radu celebrated Easter with the Romanian Orthodox Diocese of Stockholm, in the middle of the Romanian community.
Saturday, April 30, Prince Radu took part in the Night of the Resurrection service.
On Monday, May 2, The Crown Princess and Prince Radu attended the service the second day of Easter at St. John Chrysostom Episcopal Center chapel in Stockholm.
After the service, Their Royal Highnesses met with members of the Romanian community in Sweden. The meeting was attended by His Excellency Mr. Iulian Buga, Romanian Ambassador in Stockholm, with Mrs. Buga. It was the first time the Romanian Royal Family chooses to be with Romanians from northern Europe to the Holy Easter.
Their Majesties King Michael and Queen Anne received the Holy Light at their private residence in Switzerland.
Princess Maria attended the service at the Metropolitan Cathedral of the Resurrection Night in Cluj-Napoca, in the presence of His Beatitude Andrei, Metropolitan of Cluj.
Familia Regală, de sărbătoarea Sfintelor Paști _ Familia Regală a României _ Royal Family of Romania
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Their Royal Highnesses were a welcome sight in Stockholm this past week, both during the celebrations of H.M the King of Sweden, but equally out and about with the Romanian expatriates and others at various engagements during their stay. H.R.H Princess Maria represented the Royal Family well at home in Romania, during the celebrations of the Orthodox Easter, once again stepping up to represent her father and sister, the Crown Princess, as the senior royal representative at the appropriate functions.
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Their Royal Highnesses were a welcome sight in Stockholm this past week, both during the celebrations of H.M the King of Sweden, but equally out and about with the Romanian expatriates and others at various engagements during their stay. H.R.H Princess Maria represented the Royal Family well at home in Romania, during the celebrations of the Orthodox Easter, once again stepping up to represent her father and sister, the Crown Princess, as the senior royal representative at the appropriate functions.
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Both Greek-Catholics and Orthodox had Easter on the 1st of May and Princess Maria attended Easter celebrations of both Churches.
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05-06-2016, 08:37 AM
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Romania's Royal House celebrates 150 years with special events in Bucharest and Sinaia - Romania Insider
Crown princess Margareta, prince Radu, princess Elena and Alexander Philips Nixon and princess Maria attended today at a ceremony organized by the Hebrew Communities Federation in Romania to commemorate 120 years since Queen Elena’s birth, at the Coral Temple in Bucharest.
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Principele Radu, la Templul Coral_ Regina-mamă Elena a fost un dar neprețuit pentru România secolului trecut – AGERPRES
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Ceremonie la Templul Coral, dedicată Reginei-mamă Elena _ Familia Regală a României _ Royal Family of Romania
The book Anul Regal (Royal Year) published by Adenium, was launched on Friday evening at The Sala Radio’s foyer. Prince Radu, Princess Elena and Alexander Philips Nixon and Princess Maria attended.
“Anul Regal” a fost lansat la Sala Radio _ Familia Regală a României _ Royal Family of Romania
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After the evet Sala Radio hosted a Royal concert dedicated to the 150th anniversary of the Royal House of Romania. The special guests wewre Prince Radu, Princess Elena and Alexander Philips Nixon and Princess Maria.
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05-10-2016, 08:22 AM
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Crown princess Margareta, prince Radu, princess Elena and Alexander Philips Nixon, princess Sofia and archduchess Maria Magdalena attended at a military ceremony at the King Carol I statue located in the Royal Palace Square in Bucharest on Tuesday morning.
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The Royal flag was hoisted on the Peles Castle’s tower today, for the first time since 1947. Crown princess Margareta, prince Radu, princess Elena and Alexander Philips Nixon, princess Sofia, princess Maria and archduchess Maria Magdalena attended.
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Crown princess Margareta, prince Radu, princess Elena and Alexander Philips Nixon, princess Sofia, princess Maria and Archduchess Maria Magdalena attend the concert by Camerata Regala, conducted by Tiberiu Soare, organized within the events dedicated to the celebration of May 10 - day royalty at Peles Castle.
http://foto.agerpres.ro/index.php?i=8615944
Manifestări dedicate sărbătoririi Coroanei Române la Castelul Peleș (GALERIE FOTO) – AGERPRES
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05-10-2016, 05:53 PM
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Celebrating 150 from the accession of a Hohenzollern Prince on the Romanian Throne...without inviting any Hohenzollern ...
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05-10-2016, 07:06 PM
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I thought Crown Princess Margareta and Princesses Elena, Sofia and Maria were Hohenzollerns, descendants of the Hohenzollern Kings of Romania, and daughters of the last King of Romanian (also a Hohenzollern).
But I guess women don't count, for some.
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05-11-2016, 02:50 AM
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Crown Princess Margareta, Prince Radu, Princess Elena and Alexander Nixon, Princess Sofia and Princess Maria and Archduchess Maria Magdalena of Austria met in the salons of the castle personalities from cultural, scientific and educational life with senior representatives of the civil society, of the Romanian Orthodox Church, the Catholic Church, the cult of the Mosaic parquet and the cult of the Muslim, as well as of the Diplomatic Corps.
At 18, the Royal Family came out on the balcony of the castle to greet the participants in the celebration. A Royal Anthem was sung.
Half an hour later began the Gala Concert. The musicians performed on a stage located outdoors on the terrace of the castle. At the concert performed Cameratei Regale orchestra, with the guest conductor Tiberiu Soare and solistis violinist Remus Azoiţei and tenor Teodor Ilincăi.
The Royal Family watched the concert on the terrace of Peles Castle.
In the celebration took part Romanians from all over the country and Moldova. Also people from Spain, UK, Switzerland, Serbia, Russia, USA, Germany and Austria were present.
Sărbătoarea de 10 Mai la Castelul Peleș _ Familia Regală a României _ Royal Family of Romania
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