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10-04-2015, 12:24 PM
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No grandchildren around the King.
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10-05-2015, 05:35 AM
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Well, also his sons-in-law weren't aroud him, and also three of his daughters weren't. What conclusions should we draw from this?
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10-05-2015, 06:31 AM
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Nothing. Just two daughters visiting papa.
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10-05-2015, 02:53 PM
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The conclusion is obvious: after removing three of the grandchildren from the list of the main members of the Family the King is lonelier..
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10-05-2015, 03:03 PM
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The conclusion is obvious: after removing three of the grandchildren from the list of the main members of the Family the King is lonelier..
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Yes, and prince Radu was at an official visit in Moldova when the sisters were visiting their parents. Hadn't he been in Moldova, I would think that he would have been in Switzerland too.
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10-05-2015, 03:08 PM
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Sad end of reign for this Family indeed.
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10-06-2015, 02:30 AM
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Just a simple visit or the timing missing Radu on trip means something?
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10-06-2015, 02:54 AM
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Just a simple visit or the timing missing Radu on trip means something?
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I think that Margarita and Maria went to Switzerland because they had a few days off, no official events at the calendar. And like I said, if Radu hadn't been in Moldova, he would have went to Switzerland too. We have seen every year photos of Margarita and Radu visiting Margarita's parents in Switzerland.
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10-06-2015, 03:10 AM
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The conclusion is obvious: after removing three of the grandchildren from the list of the main members of the Family the King is lonelier..
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I can't recall that in the past, before he took measures to alter the line of succession (or as you call it "the list of the main members of the family"), many other of his relatives around him, at least not in the pictures published by the Royal Family. Of course most times there was Nicholas, but this was just after he was created Prince of Romania.
What about the chance that he isn't that lonely and abandones by this grandchildren and relatives, but just that they visit him in private, without much publicity and published pictures?
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10-06-2015, 03:24 AM
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Maybe that happens to have private visits without publicity but perhaps we should at this moment at least to show that the Romanian royal family is united and the king not abandoned.
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10-06-2015, 06:36 AM
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The conclusion is obvious: after removing three of the grandchildren from the list of the main members of the Family the King is lonelier..
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I'm sorry but I find this kind of mean-hearted speculation inflammatory and unnecessary.
Two of the King's daughters went from Romania to Switzerland to visit him. Neither of these two daughters has children. They had a photo taken with their father. The King's other daughters (living in France, the UK and the US) were not there. These are facts. The rest is uncharitable interpretation that a tabloid would be proud of.
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10-06-2015, 07:09 AM
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Maybe that happens to have private visits without publicity but perhaps we should at this moment at least to show that the Romanian royal family is united and the king not abandoned.
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Well, whatever "united" means under these circumstances!
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10-06-2015, 07:19 AM
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Queen Anne must be very ill I suppose.
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10-06-2015, 05:03 PM
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I'm sorry but I find this kind of mean-hearted speculation inflammatory and unnecessary.
Two of the King's daughters went from Romania to Switzerland to visit him. Neither of these two daughters has children. They had a photo taken with their father. The King's other daughters (living in France, the UK and the US) were not there. These are facts. The rest is uncharitable interpretation that a tabloid would be proud of.
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Former Princess Irina was stripped of her titles and her children had the same fate. Princess Elena's son was treated as he was treated quite recently. Princess Sofia's daughter must not be very happy about te way her maternal family considered her own father. So where is the "tabloid stuff"? Just facts!
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10-06-2015, 05:04 PM
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I can't recall that in the past, before he took measures to alter the line of succession (or as you call it "the list of the main members of the family"), many other of his relatives around him, at least not in the pictures published by the Royal Family. Of course most times there was Nicholas, but this was just after he was created Prince of Romania.
What about the chance that he isn't that lonely and abandones by this grandchildren and relatives, but just that they visit him in private, without much publicity and published pictures?
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Let's hope you are right.
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10-06-2015, 06:15 PM
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Former Princess Irina was stripped of her titles and her children had the same fate. Princess Elena's son was treated as he was treated quite recently. Princess Sofia's daughter must not be very happy about te way her maternal family considered her own father. So where is the "tabloid stuff"? Just facts!
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The removal of Irina Walker was inevitable given the criminal charges that were brought against her in the United States. Her children have no contact with their maternal relatives, so they likely could not care less about their exclusion from the line of succession.
Alain Biarneix is a fraud who posed as a fake Habsburg before adopting his current styling of "Printul Michel de Laufenburg." He is an entirely different matter.
Only the removal of Prince Nicholas beggars belief...unless you consider who is probably responsible for it.
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10-06-2015, 07:00 PM
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It is quite interesting how the majority of the King's grandchildren were put aside from the "Line of Succession". Who is responsible? It is quite obvious I presume.
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10-08-2015, 04:06 AM
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Former Princess Irina was stripped of her titles and her children had the same fate. Princess Elena's son was treated as he was treated quite recently. Princess Sofia's daughter must not be very happy about te way her maternal family considered her own father. So where is the "tabloid stuff"? Just facts!
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The tabloid stuff is drawing a highly loaded conclusion from a photograph, an interpretation which fits an agenda. Why suggest on the basis of this photo, that the King is "lonelier" and that the family is at a "sad end"? The King has five daughters who live around the globe. Two of them - those who do not have children - went to visit him and a photo was taken. It is quite normal that the grandchildren aren't there. It is quite normal for some siblings to visit parents without others being present.
There are obviously issues within the family - as there are in many - but removing someone from a line of succession to a defunct throne is not the same as disowning him or her. The King and Nicholas made that quite clear in their statements following the events of August.
Of course, those who wish to promote the German Hohenzollerns as heirs have every interest in portraying the Romanian Royal Family as unfit...
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