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08-10-2015, 05:38 PM
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I'd be interested to see the polls as they stand now.
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08-10-2015, 05:46 PM
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There are indeed more and more young people that support Monarchy but there is no majority in favour of the Restoration yet.
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One would have thought, with the growth of nationalism in Romania (indeed, other parts of Eastern Europe as well) that a restoration of the monarchy would be somewhat conceivable at this point.
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08-11-2015, 01:28 AM
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After the decision of the tenth of August 2015 officially taken by the King the chances of the Restoration are almost vanished!
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I agree  I think that they are the two graddaughters of the King and the Hohenzollerns but i don't know if they are interested for the Monarchy. Difficult situation . Lets hope the King take the right decision .
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08-11-2015, 06:08 PM
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The Restoration is possible but not with the descendants of the King.
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Cory, I know that according to the old constitution, the rightful heirs to the throne of Romania are the hohenzollerns. But they have less chance of restoring the throne than any descendant of the King. Nicholas was the only reasonable hope. Now he has been wiped out and so has any chance of restoration.
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08-14-2015, 03:16 AM
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I'd be interested to see the polls as they stand now.
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I agree. I'm curious about what people think. No polls yet after a week?
We had a poll before three months that the King trusts 61% .
I wonder now
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08-14-2015, 03:43 AM
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The sister of Nicholas, Elisabeta Karina de Roumanie Medforth-Mills (heir according the "Michaelist" line of succession) should marry Prince Alexander, Hereditary Prince von Hohenzollern (heir according to the constitutional line of succession). They are of the same generation.
Thát is the only chance on new credibility and a future for the House of Romania.
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08-14-2015, 04:06 AM
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So all we need for the good of the monarchy in Romania is a good matchmaker .
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08-14-2015, 06:25 AM
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So all we need for the good of the monarchy in Romania is a good matchmaker . 
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A good match has saved both great dynasties and great empires before
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08-14-2015, 06:28 AM
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 So I figured correctly JR76  But when before 100 years?
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08-14-2015, 06:56 AM
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The sister of Nicholas, Elisabeta Karina de Roumanie Medforth-Mills (heir according the "Michaelist" line of succession) should marry Prince Alexander, Hereditary Prince von Hohenzollern (heir according to the constitutional line of succession). They are of the same generation.
Thát is the only chance on new credibility and a future for the House of Romania.
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Wouldn't that cause the same thing happen to Nicholas' sister?
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08-14-2015, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair
The sister of Nicholas, Elisabeta Karina de Roumanie Medforth-Mills (heir according the "Michaelist" line of succession) should marry Prince Alexander, Hereditary Prince von Hohenzollern (heir according to the constitutional line of succession). They are of the same generation.
Thát is the only chance on new credibility and a future for the House of Romania.
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How very thoughtful of you to know if this was a good match without even knowning the persons...  
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08-14-2015, 04:52 PM
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Of course I am speaking about possibilities and not about realities. But on itself a match with a successor from the "michaelist" line with a successor from the orginal line would do wonders for the credibility of the House of Romania which is in total shambles now.
It would also mean a match between the impoverished Romanians and the wealthy Hohenzollerns. It is nothing more than normal that persons think -beside love- about unions which benefit both. My parents will jump in the air when I come home with a lady with good prospects and good background rather than an lady I digged up somewhere from the street. The point I wanted to make is clear.
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08-14-2015, 05:42 PM
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Restoration of the Monarchy in Romania
The Romanians are hardly impoverished after the restitution.
Their exile has simply made them extremely frugal.
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08-14-2015, 06:02 PM
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Well I do not see why the "rich" Hohenzollerns to leave their castles and everything else anyway and have to come to "poor" romania to "play" kings
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08-14-2015, 07:12 PM
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They do not leave anything at all. They will extend their German estate with that of the Romanian domains when they merge or take over. And seeing the very good and modern management they have done for centuries, they seem more than capable to make the Romanian domains flourish. More than with owners with a half-hearted zest, not so overenthusiastically commited and little pro-active innovativeness concerning the management and rendement of the royal estates. Neither Margarita nor Radu are managers, while Karl Friedrich and Alexander have a business education and have been managing the many family enterprises since childhood.
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08-14-2015, 07:20 PM
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Well I do not see why the "rich" Hohenzollerns to leave their castles and everything else anyway and have to come to "poor" romania to "play" kings 
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No need to place "rich" between marks. The Hohenzollerns from Sigmaringen are very rich.
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08-14-2015, 07:27 PM
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The Romanians are hardly impoverished after the restitution.
Their exile has simply made them extremely frugal.
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Oh yes they have. It is a mystery to me why you attribute big wealth to King Michael. What they have is what the Romanian Government has returned (Savarsin, Peles, etc.) but all these cost more money than bringing revenues. At various royal forums and in newsgroups nog more than 10-12 million has been attributed. Mainly in properties. Not in cash. This amount will be divided by five, so it will fragment when King Michael dies.
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08-15-2015, 01:11 AM
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The romanian press has written about the wealth of king Michael during the last days:
King Michael's wealth is estimated to around 60 million euros. King Michael has four castles, 20,000 hectares of forest, several properties in the capital and in the mountains.
Cu ce avere rămâne principele Nicolae după ce i-a...
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Here is an article about the wealth of the royal family from 2005
Averea Casei Regale a Romaniei
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08-15-2015, 01:35 AM
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Oh yes they have. It is a mystery to me why you attribute big wealth to King Michael. What they have is what the Romanian Government has returned (Savarsin, Peles, etc.) but all these cost more money than bringing revenues. At various royal forums and in newsgroups nog more than 10-12 million has been attributed. Mainly in properties. Not in cash. This amount will be divided by five, so it will fragment when King Michael dies.
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Is there a law that states he has to split the wealth by five? Most royal families leave the castles, etc to the heir. Sometimes they also get all or most of the land. Irina is living in a triple wide trailer and doesn't seem to benefit presently from being from a multi-million dollar family. I don't see her getting a fifth, nor do I get the feeling does she or her kids. In cases where it was split, who do you sell your castle in Romania to exactly so as to split the money? Ileana of Romania's family can't seem to find a buyer for Dracula's castle and they have been trying for 9 years. In the meantime you are stuck selling tickets to tourists to cover the costs. Ileana's family breaks even on it but it is not making them rich.
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08-15-2015, 01:42 AM
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The same press which says who are on the richest lists and give a hoot about facts? It is almost all in domains and estates which are not liquid. King Michael can not go to the shop and buy something with a doorknob from Savarsin (which is essentially a large countryside mansion) or with a sculpture from Peles Castle (which has a museal destination and is partly in use by the State of Romania. Really, King Michael 60 million? It would make him far richer than the King of Spain or the King of the Belgians. Yeah, sure...
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