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03-08-2012, 02:29 AM
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In the US, it would take a Constitutional amendment, which would take years of work and the approval of multiple legislatures, for example.
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Just by curiosity, are there many people in the U.S. interested in the topic of monarchy? Or even some royalist organisations?
From the way I see the americans, I didn't think or guess something like that...I imagine they're extremely glad and satisfied with their presidential republic
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03-08-2012, 06:03 AM
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Just by curiosity, are there many people in the U.S. interested in the topic of monarchy? Or even some royalist organisations?
From the way I see the americans, I didn't think or guess something like that...I imagine they're extremely glad and satisfied with their presidential republic 
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Americans are very dissatisfied with their government. Part of the problem may be the deep divide between the two main political parties; the government is seen as ineffective and incapable of solving problems. There are three branches of the Federal government, and the Supreme Court is respected; the President is loved by less than half of the country and loathed by less than half of the country; and Congress is despised by everyone.
The British Royal Family, which was "our" Royal Family until 1776, is very popular; when they visit, they draw huge crowds and a lot of media attention.
You'd think that the things that I list above would mean that American would want a monarchy, but nobody much thinks that way. There are no monarchist organizations that have any kind of influence, and the topic isn't ever really discussed.
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03-08-2012, 03:00 PM
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The people could ask for a referendum even if the political parties fear it.
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03-08-2012, 03:06 PM
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If members of the royal family get involved in what is essentially a poliical issue they become nothing more than the politicians they are competing against. If the monarchy were to be restored it would have to be done by a nation organized public movement acting in the interests of the nation while keeping King Michael and his family above and outside of the political movement. He can only ever be a symbol of the nation, and at the age of 90 not a long time remians for that.
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03-08-2012, 03:24 PM
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The Royal Family is not involved in politics at all. All the royalists group do not involve the Royal Family.
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03-08-2012, 03:33 PM
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The Royal Family is not involved in politics at all. All the royalists group do not involve the Royal Family.
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I know, I was responding to post 259 which seemed to suggest the royal family needed to get involved and lead the moanrchist movement.
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03-08-2012, 03:41 PM
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The royalist movements have a very good dialogue with the Royal House and would never do something against the will of the King or of the Crown Princess.
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04-16-2012, 05:19 PM
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The site of the italian royalists comment the situation in Romania:
U.M.I. - Unione Monarchica Italiana - News
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05-10-2012, 02:39 PM
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Princess Mari Anna is from the Draculesti family. She has more right to Romania Because she is from a direct line to Prince Vlad. closer then Prince Charles is.
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05-10-2012, 04:14 PM
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Today it was obvious the chances of the Restoration of HM KIng Mihai I ere really serious.
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05-13-2012, 12:55 PM
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05-18-2012, 10:31 PM
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Today it was obvious the chances of the Restoration of HM KIng Mihai I ere really serious.
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Does anyone have a statistic on the percentage of romanians that support the return of the monarchy?
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05-20-2012, 06:47 AM
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It is difficult to know in this moment...
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05-21-2012, 12:46 PM
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In the last days, some extremely devoted people managed to gather signatures for a petition which is expected to be read tomorrow in the Parliament. It referes to the day of 10th of May, the former romanian National Day; there was a law project that passed the Senate last year in November which included the 10th of May between the national festival days. Now it needs the vote in the Chamber of Deputies to become officially a law.
It will be read by Toader Paleologu, a strong monarchist among the romanian deputies.
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05-21-2012, 01:25 PM
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It is the first step to the future Restoration.
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05-21-2012, 06:17 PM
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In the last days, some extremely devoted people managed to gather signatures for a petition which is expected to be read tomorrow in the Parliament. It referes to the day of 10th of May, the former romanian National Day; there was a law project that passed the Senate last year in November which included the 10th of May between the national festival days. Now it needs the vote in the Chamber of Deputies to become officially a law.
It will be read by Toader Paleologu, a strong monarchist among the romanian deputies.
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This is a huge moment for monarchists in Romania and everyone who just plain loves monarchies. Has Romania returned some ancestral lands back to the royal family? And make peace with the royalty?
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05-22-2012, 06:26 PM
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The Peles domain has been retrocessioned to the Royal Family during the Liberal Party government, as far as I know... Former liberal president and prime-minister C. P. Tariceanu is a convinced monarchist.
Unfortunately there are still people (pretty much) who don't understand the values of the royalty and the opportunities that come along with it. There are still quite a lot of people (on the social networks at least) who persist on a distorsioned vision regarding our recent history and what happened in WW II, in direct reference to HM the King and the former marshall Antonescu (who even now is considered by some people a "hero") and the events that took place on the 23rd of august 1944. They say that we, the others should learn the "real" history...(as if the nazis could have had a chance of winning the war...). Fortunately this category of people is rather small.
There is another category of people who are still under some kind of "brainwashing" due to the communist propaganda beginning with the day of the so-called abdication of the King, in which it was said HM would have gone with lots of railway-carriages full of fortunes...the "people's fortunes", of course. Aproximately the same people accuse HM of the fact that since his return he was supposed to have done nothing for the people, only getting back the former properties of the Royal Family, nationalized by the communists in early 1948. A communist way of thinking, if you ask me... This category is larger than the first one, I think.
There is another category of people who simply don't know much about royalty and about history (the way history is being teached in our schools is a real mess!) and politics as well, who usually don't go voting at the elections... Apathy and lack of interest are the words that describe them best.
And finally, we, monarchists, are growing day by day. There are more and more of us, I think since last year there has been a real emulation in our society, due to the King's speech in the Parliament. The burst of the protests this winter emphasized this feeling that something must be changed in the way things go.
Another crucial moment was the Queen's Jubilee from last week, when the King stood at her right side in the official picture, which pointed out the extraordinary amount of respect and consideration HM (and the rest of our Royal Family) has among the important figures of the european royalty and not only. UNLIKE the image our president has now and in the last few years...
I think the chances of restoration look much better now than a few years ago for instance.
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05-22-2012, 06:45 PM
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Regarding the petition...
The signatures were gathered up, and still going. Normally today it should have been read, but unfortunately T. Paleologu couldn't read it because of the absences in the Chamber. The deputies are "busy with the local election campaign". But when it came to something that really interested them, such as the new election law, they were promptly present in the Chamber, quickly ready to vote for that!
The monarchist Paleologu just signed the document and registered it at the bureau of the chamber, remaining that it should be further insisted on the cause. By gathering more signatures and by hoping in finding a good moment in the Parliament, to "strike".
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