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01-01-2018, 12:15 PM
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The problem isn't that the institute isn't a good one. The problem is that the mother of the child doesn't trust it. As Katrianna suggested; if they truly wanted to establish paternity, it shouldn't be too hard to find a reputable institution that neither of them have any links to.
And the alternative option would be to do two tests (as the mother suggested); one at an institute trusted by the alleged father and one trusted by the mother. Theoretically, the result should be the same.
The current game of wait and see who will give in is helping nobody and certainly doesn't justify claims as that he is doing everything he can to get paternity established.
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01-01-2018, 01:47 PM
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The problem isn't that the institute isn't a good one. The problem is that the mother of the child doesn't trust it. As Katrianna suggested; if they truly wanted to establish paternity, it shouldn't be too hard to find a reputable institution that neither of them have any links to.
And the alternative option would be to do two tests (as the mother suggested); one at an institute trusted by the alleged father and one trusted by the mother. Theoretically, the result should be the same.
The current game of wait and see who will give in is helping nobody and certainly doesn't justify claims as that he is doing everything he can to get paternity established.
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Those that try to use this controversy to justify what happened in 2015 know very few people believe in the "official story" against Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills anymore.
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01-02-2018, 07:16 AM
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Nicholas can end all this and say to the mother of his alleged child: "Okay, you choose, tell me which (certified) DNA bureau you want". When a DNA bureau does all according protocol, nothing can go wrong.
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01-02-2018, 07:25 AM
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Thosge that try to use this controversy to justify what happened in 2015 know very few people believe in the "official story" against Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills anymore.
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Not sure what you are trying to say but what few or manynpeople believe is irrelevant. The statement sooke about moral shortcomings and apparently Nicholas himself thinks that it has something to do with his one-night stand with the mother of the child (and the possible result of that).
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01-02-2018, 08:00 AM
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Not sure what you are trying to say but what few or manynpeople believe is irrelevant. The statement sooke about moral shortcomings and apparently Nicholas himself thinks that it has something to do with his one-night stand with the mother of the child (and the possible result of that).
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This story was used as a pretext for what happened in August 2015.
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01-02-2018, 08:03 AM
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For once and for all Nicholas can expose all rumours about his "moral shortcomings" (making a lady pregnant and ignore her) as lies by his enemies. So what is he waiting for?
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01-02-2018, 11:58 AM
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His statements were very clear on these matters. Only those that refuse to understand what he said continue to believe the propaganda started against him in 2015.
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01-06-2018, 12:05 PM
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Eugen Leahu, Romanian film director in Paris, has written an open letter of peace to the Royal Family and prince Nicolae of Romania. In the letter he requests that Nicholas should be taken back to the order of succession and as a prince.
APEL DE PACE în SCANDALUL CASEI REGALE! MESAJUL unui reputat REGIZOR
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01-06-2018, 06:57 PM
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It's brilliant how much influence the royal family has in Romania but the problem is that the younger generation are also needed in the family, it's quite unfortunate that Irina and her children were stripped of their rights to the throne but then again would Irinas children have taken up their duties in Romania
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01-06-2018, 08:06 PM
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It's brilliant how much influence the royal family has in Romania but the problem is that the younger generation are also needed in the family, it's quite unfortunate that Irina and her children were stripped of their rights to the throne but then again would Irinas children have taken up their duties in Romania
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The only grandchild of the King really involved in Romania is Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills.
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01-07-2018, 12:02 AM
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It's brilliant how much influence the royal family has in Romania but the problem is that the younger generation are also needed in the family, it's quite unfortunate that Irina and her children were stripped of their rights to the throne but then again would Irinas children have taken up their duties in Romania
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In reality, even if the royal family was restored, Irina and her kids would not be needed. People complain about the large extensive royal families, and how they should be paired down. Complaints like the York cousins and how they should be private citizens. Nicholas and his sister are the eldest grandchildren, it is natural that they would be the ones who should be involved. It seems only Nicholas has ever been.
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01-07-2018, 12:14 AM
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This depends on a whole lot of situations, whereas in Romania, a country which has been through decades of dictatorship and is still recovering from it as well as the fact that the country is always coming under scrutiny from Western Europe, a family who is in touch with their country is the best idea because it shows that the family has been with them always, the more members there are in the family who fulfil their duties shows a rise in popularity by supporting their countrymen, take Sweden as an example, there isn't a comparison between the British and Romanian Royals' size because they monarchy is seen differently here by the different generations, however in Romania the younger generation are warming up to the idea of the restoration of the family who had dedicated their lives towards their country
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01-07-2018, 01:34 AM
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But Romania is a republic. The former royal family is treated with égards and goodwill, but that is no difference to Germany where we see the Duke of Bavaria having a place of honour during receptions when royals officially visit München. Or the Duke and Duchess of Braganca in Lisbon. It is politesse, showing respect, treat a former royal family with égards and that is it. Essentially there is no need for "a royal family" with princes and princesses and the whole rambam.
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01-07-2018, 03:10 AM
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Nicholas Medforth-Mills (formerly His Royal Highness Prince Nicholas of Romania)
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But Romania is a republic. The former royal family is treated with égards and goodwill, but that is no difference to Germany where we see the Duke of Bavaria having a place of honour during receptions when royals officially visit München. Or the Duke and Duchess of Braganca in Lisbon. It is politesse, showing respect, treat a former royal family with égards and that is it. Essentially there is no need for "a royal family" with princes and princesses and the whole rambam.
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But that's your view on it, not the Romanians' who want to restore the monarchy and that was clearly evident at the funeral of King Michael where over a million Romanians turned out to pay their respect to the late king
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01-07-2018, 06:35 AM
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But that's your view on it, not the Romanians' who want to restore the monarchy and that was clearly evident at the funeral of King Michael where over a million Romanians turned out to pay their respect to the late king
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I an sorry, but paying respects to a former head of state, whom embodied the "Good Old Romania" of before the Communist dictatorship, is really not the same as swapping the republic for a monarchy.
Only a few weeks ago we saw a massive turn out in Paris, including the present and former presidents, for the funeral of Johnny Hallyday. Just as with former King Michael there is no other thrive than to say farewell and see the end of an era.
Look at this cramped Place de la Concorde in Paris:
http://images.lpcdn.ca/641x427/20171...ieu-eglise.jpg
The politicians in Bucharest are not suddenly so super-willing to accomodate the former royal family despite the impressive turn-out during the funeral: the Bill with a new statute for the former royal family faces lot of critical scrutiny. With other words: after bringing homage to the former King, the politicians went back to daily reality. As all the Romanians which saw the funeral.
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01-07-2018, 09:26 AM
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The King was very popular again in the last few years of his life and certainly not because of the politicians.
Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills is seen by some as the one who will continue to legacy of the King.
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01-13-2018, 08:50 AM
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The eldest daughter of the late King embraced her nephew Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills today at Curtea de Arges after praying together for the late Sovereign. Sign of a possible reconciliation between the two of them?
https://www.stiripesurse.ro/rasturna...o_1242382.html
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01-13-2018, 09:14 AM
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The eldest daughter of the late King embraced her nephew Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills today at Curtea de Arges after praying together for the late Sovereign. Sign of a possible reconciliation between the two of them?
https://www.stiripesurse.ro/rasturna...o_1242382.html
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Let's hope so. Dynastic rights or not they're family and should be able to settle their differences. Without family you're nothing.
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01-13-2018, 09:35 AM
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Let's hope so. Dynastic rights or not they're family and should be able to settle their differences. Without family you're nothing.
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None of them can claim lawfully dynastic rights but they are all descendants of the late King. A reconciliation would be very good for them.
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01-13-2018, 09:45 AM
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None of them can claim lawfully dynastic rights but they are all descendants of the late King. A reconciliation would be very good for them.
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I knew you were going to say that...
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