Nicholas Medforth-Mills (formerly His Royal Highness Prince Nicholas of Romania)

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Somebody

He has a hard time to not speak out. He announced he would withdraw completely for a few months but his lawyer keeps delivering statements and Nicholas himself sends a general Christmas message. (A nice gesture in general and I wish them a beautiful christmas time as well, but inconsistent with earlier statements - he could easily have sent a christmas wish to all his personal contacts)

A Christmas Message is something normal and is not a political statement so it us not against earlier statements at all.. He is not the only one anyhow in the Family who delivered such a Message:

http://m.adevarul.ro/news/societate/...feb/index.html

[Somebody]

The lawyer speaking on his behalf clearly was; and a christmas wish is still a general message to the public; which in his case is intended to promote his position - because otherwise he could have sent his wishes privately - which is different from members of the royal house delivering such a message to the Romanian people; especially since (to my knowledge) they didn't issue a statement that they would completely refrain from communicating to the public.

I have no problem with sharing a christmas wish in itself - the only issue is that his actions contridict his earlier statements (and not for the first time); if he intended to keep using his facebook page and his lawyer to communicate with the public he shouldn't have made his earlier statement. Why doesn't he just DO what he intends to do instead of issueing self-promoting statements that he then breaks?

As I've said before, I understand he is in a hard position but I'd rather see him doing the right things that might bring reconciliation instead of focusing on self-promotion (that in some cases damages the family that he wants to be an integral part (but probably more important: future head) of).

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Somebody

The lawyer speaking on his behalf clearly was; and a christmas wish is still a general message to the public; which in his case is intended to promote his position - because otherwise he could have sent his wishes privately - which is different from members of the royal house delivering such a message to the Romanian people; especially since (to my knowledge) they didn't issue a statement that they would completely refrain from communicating to the public.

I have no problem with sharing a christmas wish in itself - the only issue is that his actions contridict his earlier statements (and not for the first time); if he intended to keep using his facebook page and his lawyer to communicate with the public he shouldn't have made his earlier statement. Why doesn't he just DO what he intends to do instead of issueing self-promoting statements that he then breaks?

As I've said before, I understand he is in a hard position but I'd rather see him doing the right things that might bring reconciliation instead of focusing on self-promotion (that in some cases damages the family that he wants to be an integral part (but probably more important: future head) of).

Sending a Christmas Message is hardly a "self promotion".

[LadyFinn]

Nicholas and Alina were seen walking at Herăstrău Park in Bucharest before Christmas. They were staying at Alina's parents house, and arrived to the park with a Mini Cooper.
Imagini realizate în exclusivitate naţională de CANCAN.ro. Au fost izgoniţi de la parastasul Majestăţii Sale, apoi... Cum i-am filmat înaintea Crăciunului pe Principele Nicolae & _Lady Di_ a României _ Cancan.ro

[Cory]

Originally Posted by LadyFinn

Nicholas and Alina were seen walking at Herăstrău Park in Bucharest before Christmas. They were staying at Alina's parents house, and arrived to the park with a Mini Cooper.
Imagini realizate în exclusivitate naţională de CANCAN.ro. Au fost izgoniţi de la parastasul Majestăţii Sale, apoi... Cum i-am filmat înaintea Crăciunului pe Principele Nicolae & _Lady Di_ a României _ Cancan.ro

They could have been invited at Savarsin but the daughters of the King obviously chose not to. Strange way to understand the spirit of Christmas.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by Cory

They could have been invited at Savarsin but the daughters of the King obviously chose not to. Strange way to understand the spirit of Christmas.

Are other grandchildren of the King at Savarsin? But why are you interested anyway? You should tell us about the Christmas celebration at Schloss Sigmaringen in Baden-Württemberg... As you are advocating respect for the last royal Constitution of Romania, it is there, and not at Savarsin, where the current royal family of Romania assembles for Christmas...

[Dalriada]

Originally Posted by Cory

They could have been invited at Savarsin but the daughters of the King obviously chose not to. Strange way to understand the spirit of Christmas.

Once Nicolas and Alina start to be blessed with their own children, the rest of the royal family will see the logical way to look forward. Happy Christmas to all.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

Are other grandchildren of the King at Savarsin? But why are you interested anyway? You should tell us about the Christmas celebration at the Schloss Sigmaringen in Baden-Württemberg... As you are advocating respect for the last royal Constitution of Romania, it is there, and not at Savarsin, where the current royal family of Romania assembles for Christmas...

The only grandchild of the late King who is in Romania is Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills but he is not invited at Savarsin.
At Siegmaringen these things would not happen.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by Cory

The only grandchild of the late King who is in Romania is Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills but he is not invited at Savarsin.
At Siegmaringen these things would not happen.

When you are consequent, Nicholas is a total irrelevance. As are the other grandchildren of the King. It is at Sigmaringen where the Head of the Royal House of Romania celebrates Weihnachten with his family at his fabulous residence.

As long as you keep saying the Constitution of the Kingdom of Romania should be respected, but keep promoting Nicholas, you are speaking with a double tongue.

Following your logic, the families Medforth-Mills, Kreuger and Biarneix are in exactly the same position as the families Lorentzen, Gómez Acebo, Holstein til Ledreborg, Bernadotte af Wisborg: all families of Kings, all without a role in the Royal House and not in line of succession.

[Andy T]

I wonder if a certain fatherless child in Romania has crossed his mind this Christmas as he spends the festive season away from his family.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by Andy T

I wonder if a certain fatherless child in Romania has crossed his mind this Christmas as he spends the festive season away from his family.

Touché !

But... but... but... we do not know at all if that "fatherless" child indeed is a child of Nicholas Medforth-Mills. So we have to be careful.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Andy T

I wonder if a certain fatherless child in Romania has crossed his mind this Christmas as he spends the festive season away from his family.

To speak about a fatherless child you must know if there was a DNA test to prove anything which is not the case.

[Andy T]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

Touché !

But... but... but... we do not know at all if that "fatherless" child indeed is a child of Nicholas Medforth-Mills. So we have to be careful.

Indeed, and I chose my words carefully. Until the identity of the little child's father is legally established, she remains fatherless.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Hm... The noble art of reading between the lines is practized here...

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Andy T

Indeed, and I chose my words carefully. Until the identity of the little child's father is legally established, she remains fatherless.

This is certainly not the fault of the possible father who asked for DNA test at the specialized Institute in the capital.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Cory

This is certainly not the fault of the possible father who asked for DNA test at the specialized Institute in the capital.

And refused to take the test twice as per the request of the child's mother who doesn't completely trust the institute picked by Nicholas
.
If both results are the same, everything is clear and established once and for all. She is either his daughter or not.
If the results differ, one of the two institutes didn't do it carefully or manipulated the test results on purpose (which is rather high reputational risk as the institute knows that the truth will most likely come out at some point - while manipulating would be low risk if only one test was done) and additional analysis would be required.

So, why refuse to go this sensible route?

[tommy100]

One test or two tests, I have to say I don't see why Nicholas would refuse a second test if he will agree to one?

[Katrianna]

Why not have DNA tests/assays done in an independent neutral lab in another European city outside of Romania? If neither can agree on a lab in their homeland, then take it to London, Paris, Rome or even Geneva. These are labs that don't have an interest in either party due to nationality. They could even go to Helsinki for all I know. Both parties need to grow up, quit bickering over details and get tested for the child. I think the baby should be the priority not only for the father, but for the mother who's acting just as spoiled and immature.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Somebody

And refused to take the test twice as per the request of the child's mother who doesn't completely trust the institute picked by Nicholas
.
If both results are the same, everything is clear and established once and for all. She is either his daughter or not.
If the results differ, one of the two institutes didn't do it carefully or manipulated the test results on purpose (which is rather high reputational risk as the institute knows that the truth will most likely come out at some point - while manipulating would be low risk if only one test was done) and additional analysis would be required.

So, why refuse to go this sensible route?

The Institute in Bucharest has not only the best reputation but is the one used in such cases.

The Press underlines the fact the late King's grandson lives with his parents in law when in Romania:

https://www.bugetul.ro/s-aflat-unde-...regelui-mihai/

[LadyFinn]

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https://www.facebook.com/royalfamili...type=3&theater