Nicholas Medforth-Mills (formerly His Royal Highness Prince Nicholas of Romania)

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by Cory

Mrs Rotaru wrote an opened Letter about a big concern among the monarchists. The letter is respectful and certainly embraces also the spirit of Christmas speaking about reconciliation and the prayer of "Our Father".

Open Letters mean that you are -not- communicating with the adressed person(s). You are communicating a wider audience, while dragging in third persons. Thát is the annoying part of "Open Letters". It is self-promotion. No more, no less.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

Open Letters mean that you are -not- communicating with the adressed person(s). You are communicating a wider audience, while dragging in third persons. Thát is the annoying part of "Open Letters". It is self-promotion. No more, no less.

How can you communicate when your letters are not answered?
Only who does not know the work done for the Monarchy so many years by Mrs Rotaru can speak about "self promotion" in this case.

[LadyRohan]

Originally Posted by Cory

How can you communicate when your letters are not answered?

I've seldom seen a better example of the kind of arrogance we're talking about.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

Open Letters mean that you are -not- communicating with the adressed person(s). You are communicating a wider audience, while dragging in third persons. Thát is the annoying part of "Open Letters". It is self-promotion. No more, no less.

The only reason for such a letter is the love for Monarchy and the respect for the King's Family.

[LadyRohan]

Originally Posted by Cory

The only reason for such a letter is the love for Monarchy and the respect for the King's Family.

There is no such entity as 'the Kings Family', so one can only assume you're referring to the Royal Family.
As someone who rejects the title 'Custodian of the Crown', saying the King had no authority to create new titles, I suppose you yourself have even less authority to re-brand others.

[Cory]

Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills is a member of the King's Family like the other grandchildren and great-grand children of the Sovereign. The term Royal Family would refer to the King and the Queen ,the Princes with dynastic rights of the Royal House and their spouses but in nowadays situation we can speak only about the King's Family.

[LadyRohan]

Originally Posted by Cory

Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills is a member of the King's Family like the other grandchildren and great-grand children of the Sovereign. The term Royal Family would refer to the King and the Queen ,the Princes with dynastic rights of the Royal House and their spouses but in nowadays situation we can speak only about the King's Family.

That is incorrect. Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth-Mills belongs to the Royal House of Romania, not to something you’ve dubbed ‘the Kings Family’, in some Trump-ian branding fashion.

As long as you refuse to accept the existence of a Romanian Royal Family, any dynastic rights conferred by the King and the 5 princesses born to him, surely there is nothing further to add?

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

That is exactly how I feel about these "monarchists". My grandmother always says to me: "Best intentions can start World War III."

Generalizing is never good. The monarchists represent at least around 20% of the Romanian population. The fact many of them support the King's grandson is more than understandable.

[Dalriada]

Originally Posted by LadyRohan

That is incorrect. Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth-Mills belongs to the Royal House of Romania, not to something you’ve dubbed ‘the Kings Family’, in some Trump-ian branding fashion.



As long as you refuse to accept the existence of a Romanian Royal Family, any dynastic rights conferred by the King and the 5 princesses born to him, surely there is nothing further to add?

I am confused now. I thought Nicholas was formerly excluded from the Royal House and stripped of his titles while he will always remain a grandson of the late King and therefore a member of the late King’s family royal or otherwise?

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by Cory

Generalizing is never good. The monarchists represent at least around 20% of the Romanian population. The fact many of them support the King's grandson is more than understandable.

I was not speaking about "the monarchists" but about "these monarchists"; the ones with their open letters, with their blogs, with their podcasts, with their mouths blabbing in any microphone. Dangerous creatures. The royal family is wise to keep these ermine fleas away from them.

[LadyRohan]

Originally Posted by Dalriada

I am confused now. I thought Nicholas was formerly excluded from the Royal House and stripped of his titles while he will always remain a grandson of the late King and therefore a member of the late King’s family royal or otherwise?

Yes, that's a typo on my part. The Royal House of Romania consists of those in the line of succession and their partners. Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth-Mills and his partner belongs to the Royal Family of Romania, alongside Irina Walker, her partner and children. That's the strict distinction, but in a non-reigning dynastic family, the separation between Royal House (those with inheritance rights and theirs partners) and Royal Family (the ones with inheritance rights, and those without), is less used and interesting.
As long as there is no throne to inherit and the monarchy is in pretense, the most used term is Royal Family, which includes them all.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

I was not speaking about "the monarchists" but about "these monarchists"; the ones with their open letters, with their blogs, with their podcasts, with their mouths blabbing in any microphone. Dangerous creatures. The royal family is wise to keep these ermine fleas away from them.

Quite a sad way to speak about people that were closed to the King and dedicated their life to the Monarchy. If the King considered them very trustful and appreciated them I suppose the King's Family could follow the example of the Sovereign. Hopefully Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills will be inspired by his own grabdfather

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by Cory

Quite a sad way to speak about people that were closed to the King and dedicated their life to the Monarchy. If the King considered them very trustful and appreciated them I suppose the King's Family could follow the example of the Sovereign. Hopefully Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills will be inspired by his own grabdfather

Of course every (non-) royal family is happy with support and loyalty. But I compare these "monarchists" with figures like Kellyanne Conway in the entourage of President Trump. Arch-loyal to him. At the same time: who needs enemies with "friends" like Kellyanne? That is the same with these monarchists. Just ermine fleas.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

Of course every (non-) royal family is happy with support and loyalty. But I compare these "monarchists" with figures like Kellyanne Conway in the entourage of President Trump. Arch-loyal to him. At the same time: who needs enemies with "friends" like Kellyanne? That is the same with these monarchists. Just ermine fleas.

Do you know how much these royalists did for the cause of Monarchy?Do you know how much they sacrifice to support the King?
The King's Family and especially Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills should feel blessed to still have some of the closest advisers of the King still able to help.

[Andy T]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

Of course every (non-) royal family is happy with support and loyalty. But I compare these "monarchists" with figures like Kellyanne Conway in the entourage of President Trump. Arch-loyal to him. At the same time: who needs enemies with "friends" like Kellyanne? That is the same with these monarchists. Just ermine fleas.

Ermine fleas - what an apposite and evocative image.

They might want a monarchy (or should that be their monarchy?) but they have certainly not shown much loyalty to King Michael in their disrespect of his proposed heir. Nicholas should bear in mind that for them he's not their preferred choice either, just the least worst of the other alternatives, and a means of weakening his aunt's claims. They'd drop him in an instant if a suitable Hohenzollern came along.

They've achieved very little in Romania over the last two decades, if anything. Any headway made for the royalist cause has been down to the King and his family and if anything the machinations of various individuals has served only to undermine the good work done by Margareta, Nicholas and various other members of the family.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by Cory

Do you know how much these royalists did for the cause of Monarchy?Do you know how much they sacrifice to support the King?
The King's Family and especially Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills should feel blessed to still have some of the closest advisers of the King still able to help.

You are contradicting yourself. If they have to respect the royal Constitution, as you claim in another thread, Nicholas is a complete irrelevance for the monarchist cause.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

You are contradicting yourself. If they have to respect the royal Constitution, as you claim in another thread, Nicholas is a complete irrelevance for the monarchist cause.

He is very important for the monarchists cause because he us the King's grandson.

[LadyRohan]

Originally Posted by Cory

He is very important for the monarchists cause because he us the King's grandson.

We are all aware. That is not what anyone is pointing out, and as always, any questions or critique is met with endless spam, just to avoid conceding the last word.

[LadyFinn]

Nicholas has posted a Christmas message to Romanians at his Facebook, where he says among others: Wherever you are, Alina and I want you to have beautiful holidays and a Christmas in peace with all your loved ones.
Ce mesaj a transmis fostul principe Nicolae în Ajun de Crăciun

[Somebody]

He has a hard time to not speak out. He announced he would withdraw completely for a few months but his lawyer keeps delivering statements and Nicholas himself sends a general Christmas message. (A nice gesture in general and I wish them a beautiful christmas time as well, but inconsistent with earlier statements - he could easily have sent a christmas wish to all his personal contacts)