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04-11-2013, 07:48 PM
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The Royal Family are the Hohenzollerns, they are basically all German with small doses of Russian on Michaels side and through Queen Anne some French and Italian blood. They have no native Roumanian ancestry.
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04-11-2013, 08:13 PM
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In case of Prince Nicholas, you can add English and Scottish ancestry to the mix through his father, the late Robin Medforth-Mills,
You are right about the rest of the Royal Family though: not a drop of actual Romanian blood in their veins. A lot of German blood mixed with drops of Russian, Danish, Italian, French, and some other. The only one who was of Romanian ancestry was carol Lambrino (the eldest son of Carol II of Romania and Zizi Lambrino), but then he wasn't considered a "proper" member of the Romanian Royal Family.
To the defence of the Romanian Royal Family, the Royal House's Statute actually forbids marriages to Romanians.
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04-11-2013, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Artemisia
To the defence of the Romanian Royal Family, the Royal House's Statute actually forbids marriages to Romanians.
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Why is this?
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04-11-2013, 10:24 PM
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To the defence of the Romanian Royal Family, the Royal House's Statute actually forbids marriages to Romanians.
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Presumably no longer in effect since the "Crown Princess" is married to one and if she had been able to have children I have no doubt they would have been in the line of succession after her.
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04-11-2013, 10:38 PM
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To be honest, I have absolutely no idea. There were several Royal Families with similar rules, mostly "imported" ones (that is to say, families which didn't originate in a given country and became its royal house as a result of various events).
I never understood the reasoning behind that since marriage to a woman from the country you are reigning over and have no blood ties with should presumably strengthen the monarchy.
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Presumably no longer in effect since the "Crown Princess" is married to one and if she had been able to have children I have no doubt they would have been in the line of succession after her.
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Indeed, it is most probably no longer in force ever since King Michael established the Royal House of Romania, severing ties with the House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen. Presumably, new house laws were written at the same time. And before that, as Head of the House King Michael could amend the statute at any time. Indeed, he has done so on many occasions, such as when naming his daughter the Crown Princess, granting Nicolas the title of a Romanian Prince, etcetera.
King Michael, as generally undisputed Head of the House (Paul-Philippe Hohenzollern notwithstanding), gave his permission for the marriage of Margarita and Radu, which was really all that mattered.
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04-11-2013, 11:09 PM
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Thanks for the interesting replies. Although King Michael's side is Hohenzollern, his wife Anne was French and Italian, you say. That is half of the inheritance of Princess Margareta. Somewhere she has some slav descent, I suspect, with her cheekbones and slightly slanty eyes (by slightly slanty I don't mean oriental; I have the same eyes and I am not oriental...it is a feature I can't identify the source of, but it occurs in some Scandinavians as well as in people of the slavic countries. The Vikings had a big part in settling Russia and the Byzantine lands, coming down through Russia. I have been reading some history lately).
It's good they changed the absurd law that the ruler cannot marry a woman of his own country. Sounds like someone in the past wanted to preserve an elite and exclusive class. I have read that the Saxons who ruled parts of Romania long ago were exclusivists. Well I don't know much about it but it's an interesting puzzle.
Are the Hohenzollerns Saxon? I suppose they probably are. I have more reading to do.
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04-13-2013, 04:52 PM
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When Prince Carol later King Carol I first came to Romania, it was after a long dispute among Romanian noble families for rulling the principality. It was part of the deal why a German prince was elected as a ruler, in order to put an end to all the internal struggle for power. Thus, one of the first rules was to forbid a marriage between the newly elected prince and any Romanian woman. The reason was that the noble families might push forward their daughters and any such marriage would most certainly benefit some families. All the impartiality which was supposed to be attained by bringing a foreign prince to rule would disappear because he would be biased towards his wife's family and they would gain too much power.
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04-23-2013, 05:56 AM
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The Romanian Royals have Romanian forefathers and the members of the Romanian Royal Family can marry Romanians.
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05-07-2013, 10:09 AM
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HRH Prince Nicolae with his uncle and his sister at Alba Iulia to celebrate Easter:
http://stiri.tvr.ro/principele-radu-...ideo.html#view
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HRH Prince Nicolae visited together with his uncle and his sister Curtea de Arges where are buried the Romanian Kings and Queens:
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05-08-2013, 11:24 AM
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Has Rebecca been out in awhile? I think it has been awhile, correct? And, does she live in London?
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06-10-2013, 10:38 PM
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Things have been quiet lately for the prince!
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06-13-2013, 08:37 AM
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HRH Prince Nicolae will participate today together with his uncle at the presentation of the book" Monarchies of the XXIst Century" at the "Carol I" National University Library:
Lansarea volumului "Monarhiile Secolului XXI"
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06-17-2013, 06:54 AM
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07-01-2013, 12:43 PM
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07-05-2013, 04:43 AM
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Thanks for sharing! This is a great read (after translation).
It was great to see HRH in "street clothes" or "everyday clothes" for once. We see him in suits all the time -change is nice every once in awhile and it is nice to see his more relaxed side during volunteer work.
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