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Old 08-10-2015, 03:31 PM
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This is a PR disaster if Nicholas has indeed wish for this. I think there is no doubt that there has been a falling out though otherwise Nicholas could have voluntarily renounced his rights rather than be stripped of them.
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Old 08-10-2015, 03:33 PM
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a lot of speculations. but what is the real reason?
For me this decision is the end of this dinasty. maybe the King makes room for a new one?

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Yes, but that would be almost (i think) unprecedented in history, if there's one thing that all royals have in common it's that they want their own dynasty to be *the one*
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Old 08-10-2015, 03:34 PM
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According to journalist Robert Turcescu, Nicholas is in Amsterdam.
https://twitter.com/turcescu/status/630814201305542656

Turcescu has also a Facebook, where he speaks about Nicholas. Maybe someone who understands romanian, could look if there is something interesting.
https://www.facebook.com/turcescu?fref=nf

A long interview of advisor Ioan Luca Vlad. He says that Nicholas can engage himself in charitable activities or in business, can continue activities in Kenya - worked for Kenyan navy, made ​​survival courses for children - so he has very many opportunities. He says that Nicholas has got offers to work at a private sector but he hasn't started working in anywhere yet. Vlad can not tell. When talking about Nicholas's private life, these are decisions that he takes. Vlad gives an example, although he does not know the name of the company: the company that worked in Kenya and organized sports tours for these disadvantaged children. So the projects in Kenya can return. And in any case it is not about Romanian companies but international companies. Vlad thinks that Nicholas will work in Europe or Kenya in the future. He said also that when Margarita comes the Head of the Royal House, she can change the line of succession.
Ioan Luca Vlad, consilier al Casei Regale_ Principele Nicolae a fost chiar usurat de decizia Regelui Mihai _ Sentimentul de antreprenoriat e foarte greu de dezvoltat in cadrul Casei Regale - Esential - HotNews.ro
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Robert Turcescu*(born May 3, 1975) is a Romanian journalist, TV presenter, best known for confessing in 2014 to being un undercover agent of a military secret service in Romania while posing as a freelance journalist for several years
So what he is written probably is only under command

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Old 08-10-2015, 03:49 PM
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Robert Turcescu*(born May 3, 1975) is a Romanian journalist, TV presenter, best known for confessing in 2014 to being un undercover agent of a military secret service in Romania while posing as a freelance journalist for several years
So what he is written probably is only under command

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Ok, thank you for the information.
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Old 08-10-2015, 04:06 PM
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Yes, but that would be almost (i think) unprecedented in history, if there's one thing that all royals have in common it's that they want their own dynasty to be *the one*
I can't imagine everyone agreeing (or will agree) with this decision.
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Old 08-10-2015, 04:26 PM
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This is a PR disaster if Nicholas has indeed wish for this. I think there is no doubt that there has been a falling out though otherwise Nicholas could have voluntarily renounced his rights rather than be stripped of them.
I agree. And if it was a mutual decision, he could have ended all speculation just by a short press release saying that this was what he also wanted, and that he's happy to let his life take another turn. So unfortunately, there is some serious trouble behind this, one way or another.
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Old 08-10-2015, 04:30 PM
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I doubt we'll never find out the real reason for this but by taking away his title and his succession rights so publicly, it can only lead to damaging speculation and if there's to be no explanation, I wonder if the King hasn't made a big mistake? Surely he could have conveyed his wishes privately to the Crown Princess who could have dealt with this quietly when it was an issue?
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Old 08-10-2015, 04:40 PM
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Gosh, all this has happened so quickly. Nicholas (I guess it's official to call him by his English name now...) seemed like he was doing a good job, and he seemed to be rather passionate in getting children in Romania interested in reading. I can sort of understand why he wouldn't be able to handle the role, as before he became a prince he was a commoner and didn't have any official royal experiences. I can imagine that he had "prince training" at the beginning though.

I agree with those who have suggested that this is most likely due to a falling out. I apologise if this has already been asked, but do we know if Crown Princess Margarita was informed of this (as I read that King Mihai wants the succession line to end at her)?
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Old 08-10-2015, 04:58 PM
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Maybe Nicolae felt constrained by the duties involved in being the heir to a throne that, lets be real, will probably never be restored, and feels he needs a career. Being king is a career he may never have and perhaps the King felt that Nicolae, having a career out side of Romania, is not appropriate.
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Old 08-10-2015, 05:00 PM
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His name was already taken away from the line of succession at the Royal Family's site. His profile has also been deleted.

Karina is still there (as 3rd in line), as well as Princess Sofia's daughter.

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From the orders and decorations he held it also looks like he has been stripped of the Order of the Romanian Crown, of which he held the highest class the Grand Cross which he received in 2013, as he is no longer listed as a recipient on the webpage.

Ordinului Coroana Romniei

Although it seems he still has the Nihil Sine Deo medal which he received in 2010. On the webpage for this decoration he's named as Mr Nicholas Michael Medforth-Mills.

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There was no meeting between the King and his grandson before this shocking decision.


This decision oficially signed by the King means this Family has no future as reigning Royal Family in the country.

The majority of Romanian royalists are not only dissapointed but won't probably suport this Family anymore.

Princess Elena's son is not in Romania anymore and I really wonder if he will be back soon.
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Old 08-10-2015, 05:07 PM
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Maybe Nicolae felt constrained by the duties involved in being the heir to a throne that, lets be real, will probably never be restored, and feels he needs a career. Being king is a career he may never have and perhaps the King felt that Nicolae, having a career out side of Romania, is not appropriate.
If this was about him wanting to take a particular job, you would think he would have taken that job. Instead he is unemployed, seemingly taking a break in Amsterdam, and they are talking about options he might have.
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Old 08-10-2015, 05:11 PM
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The decision was taken by the Family and it does not seem to me Nicholas has said recently he would not be interested to represent the Royal Family anymore. He was involved in many projects in Romania which were a proof he really wanted to continue not to give up. He was too popular and maybe somebody did not really liked it.
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Old 08-10-2015, 05:14 PM
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Maybe Nicolae felt constrained by the duties involved in being the heir to a throne that, lets be real, will probably never be restored, and feels he needs a career. Being king is a career he may never have and perhaps the King felt that Nicolae, having a career out side of Romania, is not appropriate.
That would be a strange reason, given countless monarchs and royals though out history have maintained their titles and held a profession at the same time.
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Old 08-10-2015, 05:17 PM
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The explanations given by the King's Family did not really convinced anybody.
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Old 08-10-2015, 05:23 PM
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That would be terrible if the King did this without even meeting with his grandson in person. It would lower my respect for Michael.
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Old 08-10-2015, 05:24 PM
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That would be terrible if the King did this without even meeting with his grandson in person. It would lower my respect for Michael.
And will it not start a debate about how sound of mind the King is? To effectively destroy any chance of a restoration doesn't sound like the sort of thing he'd do unless he absolutely had to....but where's the justification for it? It's so strange.
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Old 08-10-2015, 05:32 PM
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And will it not start a debate about how sound of mind the King is? To effectively destroy any chance of a restoration doesn't sound like the sort of thing he'd do unless he absolutely had to....but where's the justification for it? It's so strange.
Good point, at 94 perhaps he is a little addled.
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Old 08-10-2015, 05:35 PM
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That would be terrible if the King did this without even meeting with his grandson in person. It would lower my respect for Michael.
Actually they did not meet in August when the decision was taken...
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