Nicholas Medforth-Mills (formerly His Royal Highness Prince Nicholas of Romania) - Page 35

LadyFinn · #**681** 08-10-2015, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ish

I think the "means to make a heir" refers to Nicholas' ability to be a heir, not his ability to procreate.

Yes, that is what I think he meant too. Let's hope that we will get a good news article in english so that we don't have to rely on google translations, which often change meanings a little.

More of Ioan Luca Vlad's interview, also with google translation:
"Some of us could watch the grandson of king Michael on private route. I saw very good things that increased stature and role of the Crown in our country, but also a certain internal mismatch was not noted in any way. This does not work with scandals, with news sources, but simply a mismatch between the ideals emotional Prince and the rules they impose and the role that it assumed.. Here is the big difference to other situations in which withdrew the titles of Prince. He did not do something, it is a decision for the future, and not a penalty, it is a decision that Prince is consent, a decision that King took it with sadness, but enables him to concentrate on other things, ecology, youth, business, any would like to do abroad. Not only that title, is the role that he assumed and which involved 24 hours of 24 to devote to this mission. You can understand that it was too much for him. All the things that made them remain, all projects that involved can not sponge dynasty remains strong, and he remains almost to the royal family in his capacity as private."
The decision was taken by His Majesty, but after some counsel which has included Prince Nicholas, so it is perfect with his consent, said the lawyer.
Regele Mihai i-a retras titlul de Principe nepotului său Nicolae şi l-a exclus din Linia de Succesiune la Coroana României
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eya · #**682** 08-10-2015, 12:24 PM

I don't know if find out what really happen

But is so same.

**MAfan** · #**683** 08-10-2015, 12:32 PM

I'm very surprised and puzzled. I hope that some more and clearer informations will be released about the reasons behind this decision.
But what lets me much and much puzzled is that on a side they say that the King has decided that the Royal Family will come to an end after Crown Princess Margarita's "reign and life", but on the other side there is still a "line of succession" which continues after Margarita.

LadyFinn · #**684** 08-10-2015, 12:44 PM

And finally something in english:
...Royal House adviser Ioan Luca-Vlad told Digi24 immediately after the decision was announced that the move came following “an emotional disparity between Nicolae’s ideals and the House’s standards.” It’s not a punishment, but a decision for the future, to which King Mihai came with a particular sadness, the royal adviser explained. He also mentioned the decision was taken ‘in harmony with the involved persons.’ ‘We should not look in any garbage cans as we won’t find anything,’ the adviser added.
According to Luca-Vlad, Nicolae will remain a member of the Royal House, but he will leave Romania, as there are many foreign NGOs that want to collaborate with him on various projects....
Prince Nicolae removed from the line of succession of the Romanian Royal House, stripped of ‘prince’ title _ The Romania Journal

Blog Real · #**685** 08-10-2015, 12:46 PM

Yes the line of succession continues, Nicolae is that is no longer in line. I hope that arise further explanation soon.

Admiral Horthy · #**686** 08-10-2015, 12:52 PM

Perhaps he needed a lighter schedule to give him some breathing room, even reigning families get that. And why take away his title? There are plenty of princes and princesses not in the line of succession. And he is leaving the country? Sounds almost like exile.

Lee-Z · #**687** 08-10-2015, 01:03 PM

Wow, that's a real shocker.... what i make of the various articles is that Nicolai simply couldn't handle the role and either Mihai took the decision based on what he saw was happening or Nicolai asked him to do so..

Ish · #**688** 08-10-2015, 01:05 PM

See to me this screams of there is some kind of scandal that the family is hiding right now.

Blog Real · #**689** 08-10-2015, 01:12 PM

I find it strange. But who will it stay in place Nicolae? your sister?

LadyFinn · #**690** 08-10-2015, 01:17 PM

I think we will hear soon what Nicholas will start doing. It might just be that he wants to do charity work with NGOs more concretely than he could in his role as a prince. Maybe standing in military parades and things like that aren't what he wants to do. But this is pure speculation.

TLLK · #**691** 08-10-2015, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacknch

Well all countries need a government under the sign of modesty, well-balanced, with morals, respect and always thinking of others, but seeing as that tends not to be achievable most of the time, I'm not sure what that has to do with anything - especially if what LadyFinn has posted above is correct and that the decision was taken together and seems to have come more from Nicholas than anyone else.

If Nicholas has come to the decision that he cannot fulfill the role then IMO it was better to share this with his grandfather and aunt now rather than later.

Admiral Horthy · #**692** 08-10-2015, 01:49 PM

It seems, according to the article on the home page, that the King wants the royal family to end with the Crown Princess.

Lee-Z · #**693** 08-10-2015, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Horthy

It seems, according to the article on the home page, that the King wants the royal family to end with the Crown Princess.

But...why...?

Ilse · #**694** 08-10-2015, 02:01 PM

Royal Musings: King Michael removes grandson's title and place in the succession

Admiral Horthy · #**695** 08-10-2015, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee-Z

But...why...?

If Nicolae isn't up to carrying on the legacy, Margarita has no children, Irena has been in legal trouble which throws her kids out of the running, I do not believe Maria has any children, that leaves Nicolae's sister Elizabeta, which, at this point, would be like starting from scratch. It is over, sad to say.

empress sissi · #**696** 08-10-2015, 02:07 PM

The king speak about the modesty in the statement. I'm almost sure that he is implicated in a scandal and probably will be revealed by the press in the next few days. He did something wrong, this is my opinion and this is the reason.We will see! I will keep you in touch because i'm from romania.

eya · #**697** 08-10-2015, 02:08 PM

Sad to say me too but i agree.

Royalotta · #**698** 08-10-2015, 02:11 PM

This seems such a strange turn of events and it makes one wonder about the future. His Majesty spoke of Margarita's "reign" which recently seemed a more realistic possibility than say, a Serbian restoration. But I thought that this had been cemented by Nicolae's popularity and certainly he seemed to prepare himself for such a role. Perhaps he wishes to enter Romanian politics now where his title would be an issue? Whatever the reason, I'm not sure it's the wisest one.

I have to confess, I'm a little confused. Not just because Nicolae has been removed but because of what it means for the Romanian Royal Family's future. The Fundamental Rules of the Royal House of Romania of 2007 (not backed by parliament of course) would mean that were there to be a restoration, Romania would have three Queens regnant after Mihai (Margarita, Helen and Elisabeth) but any restoration would need parliament to ratify the King's 2007 document and there's nothing to say that parliament (and the people) would be happy with Nicolae being overlooked, whatever the reasons are.

Does this now mean that the King will create his granddaughter a Princess of Romania? It's all very bizarre!

LadyFinn · #**699** 08-10-2015, 02:15 PM

One thing which came to my mind, when the adviser spoke about Nicholas being involved in professional sports, is that Nicholas loves cycling. Cycling is a great hobby and good for everyone's health. And it can be used to good things, like Nicholas showed with his tour in Romania to collect money to children's books. But cycling is also always in the headlines of the sport pages because of doping. We all remember Lance Armstrong, and so many other cyclists who have used doping.
Perhaps the king thinks that cycling isn't good PR for the Royal House of Romania.

Jacknch · #**700** 08-10-2015, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by empress sissi

The king speak about the modesty in the statement. I'm almost sure that he is implicated in a scandal and probably will be revealed by the press in the next few days. He did something wrong, this is my opinion and this is the reason.We will see! I will keep you in touch because i'm from romania.

I hope that there is no scandal involving Nicolae, I can't imagine it is true. Nonetheless, it is good to have a perspective from someone from Romania, so please keep us updated!