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09-22-2018, 08:11 AM
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Where was the Crown Princess?
Entertaining the US Ambassador is very high profile for an ex Royal Family.
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Princess Margareta was represented by her spouse, Radu.
It is interesting that the councillor to the president of Romania, Mr Andrei Muraru, was present as well. He wrote a book on the (enforced, or not?) abdication of King Michael when the Communists took over. See book.
Before this Mr Andrei Muraru became the presidential councillor he was Chief Executive of the Institute for the Investigation of Communist Crimes in Romania. Mr Lazăr Comănescu is the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Romania, and Mr Mihnea Constantinescu was Chef de Cabinet of various Prime Ministers before becoming a State Councillor. So quite a few representants of "deep state Romania" were attending this diner at Elisabeta Palace.
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09-23-2018, 04:38 AM
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Princess Margareta was represented by her spouse, Radu.
It is interesting that the councillor to the president of Romania, Mr Andrei Muraru, was present as well. He wrote a book on the (enforced, or not?) abdication of King Michael when the Communists took over. See book.
Before this Mr Andrei Muraru became the presidential councillor he was Chief Executive of the Institute for the Investigation of Communist Crimes in Romania. Mr Lazăr Comănescu is the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Romania, and Mr Mihnea Constantinescu was Chef de Cabinet of various Prime Ministers before becoming a State Councillor. So quite a few representants of "deep state Romania" were attending this diner at Elisabeta Palace. |
"enforced, or not?"...?! What else would you call it when a gun is pointed at ones head to sign a document?!  
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09-23-2018, 05:19 AM
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"enforced, or not?"...?! What else would you call it when a gun is pointed at ones head to sign a document?! |
That is the story. Fabricated or not? Fake news is not something from 2018 only. So only good that there has been an investigation on what happened around the abdication.
Andrei Muraru actually proved that an abdication "at gunpoint" was a myth. In 1946 the Communists won the elections (without any doubt rigged) and since then King Michael was out-manoeuvred. The Communist government hoped that King Michael would understand the sign of times, go to the wedding of Princess Elizabeth and Prince Philip, and not come back. That was the "elegant solution". Even King George VI and the British Government tried to persuade the King not to return and so remain King in exile. (In return Romania would allow him to tranfer personal properties and wealth).
King Michael however refused and then the "gentlemanlike option" was thrown away. Now the Communists decided to show their fist: there is no place for a monarchy in their dreamed People's State. Now the King has stubbornly ignored the offered loophole, the Communists made the situation so difficult, that he had to abdicate. This time the King had to leave Romania, as poor as a church mouse.
There never was a gun pointed on the King. But there were threats by the Communists of an enforced "cleansing" of the state (which did happen anyway when the King left). That Andrei Muraru is in Elisabeta Palace shows he has told the honest version, accepted by the royal family.
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09-23-2018, 06:54 AM
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I think the Queen is ill ?
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09-23-2018, 07:23 AM
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That is the story. Fabricated or not? Fake news is not something from 2018 only. So only good that there has been an investigation on what happened around the abdication.
Andrei Muraru actually proved that an abdication "at gunpoint" was a myth. In 1946 the Communists won the elections (without any doubt rigged) and since then King Michael was out-manoeuvred. The Communist government hoped that King Michael would understand the sign of times, go to the wedding of Princess Elizabeth and Prince Philip, and not come back. That was the "elegant solution". Even King George VI and the British Government tried to persuade the King not to return and so remain King in exile. (In return Romania would allow him to tranfer personal properties and wealth).
King Michael however refused and then the "gentlemanlike option" was thrown away. Now the Communists decided to show their fist: there is no place for a monarchy in their dreamed People's State. Now the King has stubbornly ignored the offered loophole, the Communists made the situation so difficult, that he had to abdicate. This time the King had to leave Romania, as poor as a church mouse.
There never was a gun pointed on the King. But there were threats by the Communists of an enforced "cleansing" of the state (which did happen anyway when the King left). That Andrei Muraru is in Elisabeta Palace shows he has told the honest version, accepted by the royal family.
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Your story just shows what an upright man the King was. What you call a "gentleman/elegant solution" I would call treason against the romanian people!
Michael chose to return to face his enemies, no matter how bad things would turn out for him personally. A King is a monarch, not a manager or investment broker, you see?
By saying the gun story was a myth you claim King Michael deliberately lied repeatedly in front of a camera, right?!
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09-25-2018, 06:59 AM
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It is mindboggling. The Prosecutor-General making an audience with Margareta. It is really a monarchy in everything but the name.
For a comparison: here you see the Dutch Prosecutor-General with Margareta's Dutch colleague: picture.
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09-28-2018, 11:05 AM
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I t seems that Her Majesty Margareta she will not be around the corner ( i mean in Country) this weekend! With Prince Radu on Saturday, 29 September and Sunday, 30 September will pay a visit to the towns of Soultzmatt and Haguenau in Alsace, the French Republic, at the official invitation of the two municipalities.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BoRddq2B...egalaaromaniei
Today, Her Majesty Margareta and Prince Radu were guests of the Mayor of Soultzmatt, Mr. Jean-Paul Diringer. In the morning, attended a ceremony hosted by the Municipal Council, which was awarded the title of Honorary Citizen of the City of Soultzmatt to Her Majesty and Prince Radu.
Vizită regală la Soultzmatt, în memoria martirilor români din Primul Război Mondial | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania
On Saturday afternoon, Her Majesty Margareta, and Prince Radu took part in a large public display at the Romanian Military Cemetery in Soultzmatt.
http://www.romaniaregala.ro/jurnal/c...azboi-mondial/
Today 30 September , His Majesty Margareta and PrinceRadu were the guests of Haguenau, at the official invitation of the municipality.
Vizită regală la Haguenau, în Alsacia | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania
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09-28-2018, 12:18 PM
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I t seems that Her Majesty Margareta she will not be around the corner ( i mean in Country) this weekend! With Prince Radu on Saturday, 29 September and Sunday, 30 September will pay a visit to the towns of Soultzmatt and Haguenau in Alsace, the French Republic, at the official invitation of the two municipalities.
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I think nobody seriously assumed she would go to this weekends wedding.... 
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10-01-2018, 04:55 PM
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Princess Marie is missing.
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10-01-2018, 06:22 PM
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Sophie is in Romania on a photographic mission.
Marie was likely in Bucharest.
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10-02-2018, 01:11 AM
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I believe maria-olivia may be referring to Princess Marie of Liechtenstein?
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10-02-2018, 06:20 AM
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Ah, that makes more sense!
Princess Marie Agla has apparently been suffering from ill health for the past couple of years, which is why she now rarely appears in public.
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10-02-2018, 07:31 AM
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Yes , You are right she was not looking well on their national Day.
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10-08-2018, 03:15 AM
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It is interesting that the receptions of the Corps Diplomatique are left to the consort.
Of course Princess Margareta has no official role in Romania and these visits are just out of politesse. Maybe that is why it is easier to request the consort to take care of these audiences.
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Lovely diamonds and pearls jewellery.
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10-13-2018, 02:46 PM
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Prince Charles 's picture on the best place .
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10-15-2018, 03:10 AM
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Prince Radu receives the Red Cross volunteers from France, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Bulgaria, Greece, Slovenia, Croatia and the Red Crescent of Turkey, together with their colleagues in Bucharest and Timisoara, at the Elisabeta Palace.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bo8bQc0B...egalaaromaniei
Today, on Wednesday, 17 October Her Majesty Margareta and Prince Radu were present at the Orthodox Cathedral in Lausanne, where they were guests of the parish priest Alexandru Iossifidis.
Majestatea Sa la Catedrala Ortodoxă din Lausanne | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania
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10-17-2018, 12:49 PM
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She may pray for Roumania because to day in Brussels, they had to do small steps.
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