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Old 12-14-2017, 10:18 PM
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A marriage can't be imposed to anybody.
Then why the repeated posts about how a member of the Romanian RF should marry a Hohenzollern and heal some wounds nobody sees or acknowledges, to solidify some claim very few accept and nobody has seriously validated? Should marriage be used as a dynastic tool or not?

How can you be so wonderfully contrary in every two post you make, and not see the irony yourself? :)

Moving on as separate entities does not mean the same as forgetting ones shared ancestry, but it's a practical way of navigating today and tomorrows world. That's it.
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Old 12-15-2017, 04:57 AM
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HM the King can cut off his personal links with them, but he is still a member of the House of Hohenzollern (genealogy can't be cut off, can it?)
The King is still their legitimate agnate.
The 5 Princesses were born as Princesses of Hohenzollern too.
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Old 12-15-2017, 08:51 AM
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The 5 Princesses were born as Princesses of Hohenzollern too.
There are still two nephew of the late King Michael: Paul von Hohenzollern (1948) and Alexander von Hohenzollern (1961), sons of the late King Michael's elder brother Carol.

Only nephew Paul has a child: Carol, born in 2010. In the same year this -up to present the youngest Romanian Hohenzollern- was baptized in Bucharest. His godparents were Moritz Prinz und Landgraf von Hessen, Maria Gabriella Principessa di Savoia, Madeleine Prinzessin zu Bentheim und Steinfurt, the then President of Romania and First Lady, Mrs Trajan Basascu.

In 2011 Paul von Hohenzollern publicly objected against his uncle (the late King Michael) severing the historical and dynastic ties to the ancestral House as "inexplicable".
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Old 12-15-2017, 09:26 AM
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There are still two nephew of the late King Michael: Paul von Hohenzollern (1948) and Alexander von Hohenzollern (1961), sons of the late King Michael's elder brother Carol.

Only nephew Paul has a child: Carol, born in 2010. In the same year this -up to present the youngest Romanian Hohenzollern- was baptized in Bucharest. His godparents were Moritz Prinz und Landgraf von Hessen, Maria Gabriella Principessa di Savoia, Madeleine Prinzessin zu Bentheim und Steinfurt, the then President of Romania and First Lady, Mrs Trajan Basascu.

In 2011 Paul von Hohenzollern publicly objected against his uncle (the late King Michael) severing the historical and dynastic ties to the ancestral House as "inexplicable".
The descendants of Mrs Zizi Lambrino have never been considered by the King as members of the Royal Family.
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Old 12-15-2017, 09:43 AM
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The descendants of Mrs Zizi Lambrino have never been considered by the King as members of the Royal Family.
But Nicholas Medforth-Mills is no member either and this does not stop you advocating him?

Irina von Hohenzollern, Nicholas Medforth-Mills, Michael Kreuger and Angelica Kreuger are in the same situation as their cousins Paul, Alexander and Carol von Hohenzollern: no one of them belong the (michaelian) Royal House.
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Old 12-15-2017, 10:28 AM
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But Nicholas Medforth-Mills is no member either and this does not stop you advocating him?

Irina von Hohenzollern, Nicholas Medforth-Mills, Michael Kreuger and Angelica Kreuger are in the same situation as their cousins Paul, Alexander and Carol von Hohenzollern: no one of them belong the (michaelian) Royal House.
HRH Princess Irina and her nephew Nicholas were considered at a certain stage members of the Royal Family by the King.

I do not know if the House of Hohenzollern has ever recognized the descendants of Mrs Zizi Lambrino as members of the House.
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Old 12-15-2017, 12:03 PM
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Nicholas was no member of the Royal House either until his grandfather decided to make him a member indeed. With the same ease his menbership has been revoked, like that of his American aunt and cousins.

The point was that there are not only five Hohenzollern ladies, but also two Hohenzollern gentlemen and a Hohenzollern boy. These three are a procreation of the Romanian Hohenzollerns.

Paul von Hohenzollern already claims that he is the Heir, not Margareta, for what it is worth.
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Old 12-15-2017, 01:03 PM
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According to the Royal Constitutions and also to the document of 2007 the descendants of Mrs Lambrino were not considered dynasts.
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Hei. I m new here and maybe should open new topic ,but also curious. What you guys think ,why nobody from the norvegian royal family take park on the funeral of King Michael of Romania ?
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Old 12-15-2017, 04:13 PM
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Hei. I m new here and maybe should open new topic ,but also curious. What you guys think ,why nobody from the norvegian royal family take park on the funeral of King Michael of Romania ?
Hi Zoltan,
Welcome to the forum - I'm very sorry it is in these sad circumstances. Condolences to you on the loss of HM the King. This topic was discussed in the topic entitled Death of King Michael. People seemed to think that the most probable explanation is that a combination of frail health of certain members of the family and previous commitments of certain others may explain the absence of a royal from Norway. They are a very small royal family.
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Old 12-15-2017, 04:53 PM
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"Historia" published an article about the relationships between the Royal House of Romania and the Princely House of Hohenzollern speaking about how Prince Carol came to Romania, how Ferdinand became Heir and King,what happened in the first world war, the situation after 1989:

https://www.historia.ro/sectiune/actualitate/articol/istoria-conflictelor-dintre-casa-regala-a-romaniei-si-casa-princiara-de-hohenzollern
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Further discussion about the Hohenzollern's succession can be conductedhere.
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