King Carol II (1893-1953), Queen Mother Helen (1896-1982), Wives and Descendants

[An Ard Ri]

Originally Posted by USCtrojan

I noticed that HM the Queen Mother Helen is not buried at the royal monastery, Curtea de Argeș. Does anyone know if there is a plan to repatriate her from Switzerland?

The Queen Mother is buried at the Bois-de-Vaux Cemetery in Lausanne,Switzerland.Maybe in the future her remains will be brought back to Roumania.I believe several members of the Serbia RF were also buried here but were exhumed in 2012 and reburied in Serbia.



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[Cory]

For the moment nobody speaks about a possible burial of Queen Mother Elena at Curtea de Arges near her husband.

[CyrilVladisla]

Apart from May 10th, which was the Monarchy Day in Romania, King Carol II created a new holiday.
The new holiday was Restoration Day.
Restoration Day was celebrated on June 6th.

Helen tried to establish a nursery school to improve standards in Romania.

[USCtrojan]

Originally Posted by Cory

The late Carol Caraiman did quite a lot of mistakes but not to respect the Constitution of 1923 was one of the greatest.

How was this one of his greatest mistakes?

[Cory]

He was a userper and he did not really respect the most democratical Constitution of the Romanian history.

[HereditaryPrincess]

Here's a nice photo of Carol II and his son Michael. Michael looks like he's wearing an English school uniform, did he perhaps go to school in the UK? I'm asking because his outfit doesn't look like one that a royal child might wear in a photo like this (well to me at least).

[USCtrojan]

Originally Posted by HereditaryPrincess

Here's a nice photo of Carol II and his son Michael. Michael looks like he's wearing an English school uniform, did he perhaps go to school in the UK? I'm asking because his outfit doesn't look like one that a royal child might wear in a photo like this (well to me at least).

Okay! That is just cute!

[CyrilVladisla]

In Long to Reign?, A. W. Purdue wrote:

Unlike other monarchs who dispensed with political parties, Carol II formed his own movement, the Front for the Rebirth of the Nation.

In 1913 Carol attended the military academy in Potsdam.
He took readily to the military training and even seemed to enjoy the strict Prussian-style routine that prevailed there.

[Benjamin]

Meanwhile, the Lambrinos have attended a feline function:

International Cat Exhibition

[Cory]

Carol II mantained his dialogue with his cousins from Siegmaringen after he left Romania in 1940 and he supported their right to the Romanian Throne in case his son Michael would not have sons.

[Benjamin]

Carol II was not exactly a beacon of sound judgment and moral virtues.

Further, King Carol had no authority on succession matters after he abdicated.

Queen Anne wrote that "my only communication with the King's father consisted of two letters: one from him to me, in which he told me I had a very heavy mission, that I must be an exemplary wife and a moral support for my husband, and that I must love him; and the other, from me to him, in which I answered that I would do everything in my power to be a better marriage partner than he had been for the Queen Mother. I must confess that I was very cutting on that occasion."

[Cory]

At least he did want to attend his own father's funeral even if he was not allowed to.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Carol II was not exactly a beacon of sound judgment and moral virtues.

Further, King Carol had no authority on succession matters after he abdicated.

Queen Anne wrote that "my only communication with the King's father consisted of two letters: one from him to me, in which he told me I had a very heavy mission, that I must be an exemplary wife and a moral support for my husband, and that I must love him; and the other, from me to him, in which I answered that I would do everything in my power to be a better marriage partner than he had been for the Queen Mother. I must confess that I was very cutting on that occasion."

So why his son would have any authority on Succession matters after he also abdicated?

[Benjamin]

Carol merely wanted to attend King Ferdinand's funeral as he desired a way to power as soon as possible.

King Carol II was hardly a decent father to either of his sons so it is no wonder Michael did not attend the funeral of Carol.

Princess Margarita and her husband did go to the reburial of her grandfather when his remains were returned to Romania in 2003.

[Cory]

At least Carol II had never forgotten his ancestores and he remained loyal to the Hohenzollerns.

[Benjamin]

He certainly forget his ancestors when he ditched his duties in order to marry a commoner wife for whom he threw away his succession rights, only to reclaim them when he deposed the young son he had sired by his royal second wife, who he just as quickly cast aside when it suited him.

Carol should have remained loyal to Romania, not to the Hohenzollerns (or Germany).

[Cory]

King Michael's sons in law are less commoners than King Carol II's first and third wives?

[Benjamin]

The issue at hand was whether King Carol "had never forgotten his ancestores [sic] and ... remained loyal to the Hohenzollerns."

One believes that claim was rebutted, and you are not addressing the rebuttal.

Carol II lived to please and magnify himself.

[Cory]

Carol II was a patriot even if he made a lot of mistakes.

[CSENYC]

I would assume that the name King Carol II would need to be banished from any discussion of restoration of the monarchy.

Wasn't Carol II a terrible tyrant?