King Carol II (1893-1953), Queen Mother Helen (1896-1982), Wives and Descendants

[Benjamin]

The verdict is ridiculous.

Eurohistory: Trouble in House Romania!

Royal Musings: Official Statement from King Michael

[Cory]

The verdict has nothing to do with the membership of the Royal House.
This trial is a part of the antiroyalist campaign of the republicans.

[Warren]

The response by the Romanian Royal Family in full
Familia Regala - Comunicate si mesaje

Elisabeta Palace, 14 February 2012

With regard to the decision pronounced on 14th February 2012 by the High Court of Cassation and Justice - civil section, concerning the request addressed to the court for recognition of the Lisbon ruling on the descendance of Mircea Grigore Lambrino from King Carol II, The Romanian Royal House declares that:

This decision doesn’t create any dynastic rights, nor do they establish the belonging of the above-named person, currently deceased, to the Royal Family. This applies also to his descendants, whomever they may be.

In his position as Head of the Romanian Royal Family, His Majesty King Michael I is the only one who can pronounce himself on dynastic issues.

Furthermore, according to the provisions of the Fundamental Rules of the Romanian Royal Family, the members of the Royal Family are:

- His Majesty King Michael of Romania
- Her Majesty Queen Anne of Romania
- HRH The Crown Princess Margarita of Romania
- HRH Prince Radu of Romania
- HRH Princess Helen of Romania
- HRH Princess Irina of Romania
- HRH Princess Sophie of Romania
- HRH Princess Marie of Romania
- HRH Prince Nicholas of Romania

Neither His Majesty King Michael I, nor the former Heads of the Romanian Royal Family, King Ferdinand I and King Carol II, have ever recognised or granted any title to Mircea Grigore Lambrino or to his descendants.

The use in any context, whether public or private, of the title of Prince of Romania, or the style of Royal Highness remains the exclusive prerogative/privilege of the above mentioned members of the Royal Family.

Official statement, free of copyright

[Cory]

Paul Lambrino will surely ask now for the goods of Carol II.But he never speaks about his brother, Ion George Nicholas Alexander.

[MAfan]

And what are these goods? If I don't mistake, his father in the 1950s had already received his shares of the inheritance of King Carol; what else goods could he claim?

[Lenora]

Originally Posted by Cory

Paul Lambrino will surely ask now for the goods of Carol II.But he never speaks about his brother, Ion George Nicholas Alexander.

Why? Do they have different mothers, being only half-brothers?
What was the nationality of Paul's mother?

[Cory]

There are different goods in Romania includind Scrovistea Castle.
Paul was the son of Grigore mircea Lambrino and Helene Negavitzine while Ion George Nicholas Alexander was the son of Grigore Mircea Lambrino and Thelma Jeanne Williams.

Scrovistea Castle belong to the state. The inheritance must take into account also Ion George Nicholas alexander Hohenzollern, Paul Lambrino's brother.

Alexander Hohenzollern has the same rights to the inheritance as Paul Lambrino.

Alexander Hohenzollern did not say anything about this trial or about the inheritance.

[Grandduchess24]

Were HM king Michael I and his late brother carol lambrino on good terms despite the throne between them? And is there a story of how carol II's wife felt on her husband having a lover and how did Queen Marie feel?zizi lambrino isn't it?

[MAfan]

Originally Posted by Cory

There are different goods in Romania includind Scrovistea Castle.

And who owns now Scrovistea? The Romanian State, or is it one of the properties returned to King Michael?

[Benjamin]

Paul Lambrino has specifically stated that he wants Peles Castle. Which is too bad for him, because Peles never belonged to Carol II. It was willed directly to King Michael by King Ferdinand.

Royal Musings: Restitution of Peles will be difficult

Royal Musings: Romanian op-ed: Why Paul Lambrino will never lead the Royal House of Romania and is not even a prince

Royal Musings: Best line ever about Lia Triff Lambrino

Per Adrian Vasiliu, lawyer for the Royal House, the only properties that Lambrino may be able to claim as an heir to the estate of King Carol II are Lăpuşna Castle, a few buildings, and some land in Ilfov County.
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King Michael would also technically be entitled to 50% of the above, but Mr Vasiliu states that His Majesty has no intention of seeking restitution.

Prin

[Warren]

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Lăpuşna Castle
(actually a hunting lodge)

Image courtesy of Wikipedia reproduced under the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2

[MAfan]

And also of King Michael, of the descendants of Carol II's widow and of Mircea's widow. I suppose that this means that, if he is successful in claiming the properties back and taking into account also all the other possible inheritors, Paul would get only a small share of the asset (14% of the asset, if my calculations are correct).

[Benjamin]

The late Antonia Hohenzollern, widow of Mircea, had an only daughter, Emma Louise Ropner, from her first marriage. It is not clear whether Ms Ropner is interested in any of this...very likely she is not.

Elena Lupescu had no children, and, when she died in Portugal, she left everything to Monique Urdărianu (who was an employee, I believe). I have no idea if Urdărianu is even alive still, and she has not been mentioned at all in any of this.

As to Alexander Hohenzollern, from what I have read, he and Paul do not have a close relationship. Alexander lives in the United States, and I believe the only time the half-brothers met was at their father's funeral in 2006.

[MAfan]

His right to the inheritance is undisputed; the point is, is he interested in inheriting?

[Artemisia]

Gift from Romanian king was locked away for 35 years because jewels were not to owner's taste

This pair of pearl earrings were considered too garish for their owner so she locked them in a drawer and they sat there for 35 years. But now the true story behind the pearl earrings has been revealed and they are now set to sell at auction for more than £500,000.
The jewels had been a gift from an exiled Romanian King to his mistress, who left them to a British woman friend in Wiltshire upon her death in 1977.
The earrings measure about half-an-inch in length and the marble-sized pearls dangle from a row of diamonds. King Carol II of Romania, the great-grandson of Queen Victoria, bought them for his mistress Elena Lupescu during one of their trips around Europe.
The playboy King ascended to the throne in 1930 but abdicated 10 years later after forming a relationship with Miss Lupescu and moving to Portugal where they married.

Not sure how this breathtaking earrings could ever be considered "garish": they are very subtle and elegant, and the pearls are just magnificent!

[TomBert]

What sort of profile does Mr Paul Hohenzollern have in Romania? Does anyone take him seriously? I'm afraid he has always struck me as a bit of a joke. But I would hate to see him causing trouble for Princess Margarita when she eventually succeeds her father.

[GrandmasterSWKM]

Prince Paul has done a lot more than you may think in Romania; not just music, but many other functions. He has helped the Roma and Sirti at the EC commission on Human Rights, and now a regulation from the EC is in place for all Roma and Sirti in Europe, not just Romania. Maybe he is too quiet about his functions, but it is certainly evident to Vivian Reding [EC-Justice] in Brussels.

[TomBert]

I'm pleased to hear that he has supported some good causes. But he is not a prince.

[NGalitzine]

Originally Posted by TomBert

But he is not a prince.

Nor is he a member of the Roumanian Royal Family.

[TomBert]

Yes, can you imagine the expression on King Michael's face if his half-nephew turned up at Elisabeta Palace for a family gathering? Though, I must admit I do find Mrs Hohenzollern fascinating in a freakish sort of way (where did she get that baby from?) I know I would never let him through the gates, after some his horrible comments about King Michael.