Death and Funeral of King Michael, 5th & 16th December 2017

[maria-olivia]

I am happy these Funerals are over .
4 hours Broadcast Editie Speciale from the Romanian TV was propaganda for the whole world.
Pathetic also a copy of the Crown on his Coffin.
But deep sorrow from his Daughters .

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by Cory

What about the Bourbon-Parme Princes?

Maybe Grand-Duke Henri (also a Prince de Bourbon de Parme) did represent the Duke of Parma as well during the funeral?

After all no one from Luxembourg did attend the funeral of former Queen Anne (despite the late Queen and Grand-Duke Jean being full cousins).

Back then it was the Duke of Parma who was the one in attendance at the funeral. After the news of the passing of former Queen Anne, a spokesman of the Duke informed the media: "Prins Carlos is diep geraakt door het heengaan van deze lieve tante, die voor hem persoonlijk en voor zijn familie veel betekend heeft" ("Prince Carlos is deeply touched by the passing of this sweet aunt, who has meant a lot to him personally and to his family.") Link. Now we have not heard any statement from the Duke.

[Cory]

The Grand Duke is not known for being close to the Duke of Parma and he would not represent as a reigning Monarch a non-reigning Duke.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by Cory

The Grand Duke is not known for being close to the Duke of Parma and he would not represent as a reigning Monarch a non-reigning Duke.

How do you know he was not close and how do you know he would not hand over the condoleances on behalf of the House de Bourbon de Parme?

[Cory]

A reigning Sovereign does not represent a non reigning Duke.

[MissByrd]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Oh! That is Mr Alexander Philips Nixon McAteer. He is the stepfather of Nicholas.

Thank you, Benjamin! I'm just one of those people who likes to know.

[Cory]

Which will be the consequences of the historic days of the funeral of the King?Will more people support Monarchy?Will the politicians want to speak seriously about the return of the Monarchy?Will the King's Family find reconciliation?

[Duc_et_Pair]

I have witnessed a similar outpouring of grief when the Mayor of Amsterdam died after a lost battle against cancer, a few weeks ago. After this outpouring all goes by the normal order of the day again.

The massive interest for the funeral of Otto von Hansburg, with countless documentaries, obitituaries, discussion programs and an international live broadcast has not changed any comma in the situation: Austria is and remains a republic. And that while the Habsburgers were centuries and centuries part of the national DNA.

Romania will remain a republic. Princess Margareta and Radu Duda have a realistic view on that. It is surrealistic to think that a short period which ended 70 years ago will be "restored", meaning that the Republic votes its own institutions of state down.

[Cory]

In 27 years there have never been so many debates about the restoration of Monarchy as these days.

[tommy100]

To be honest the death of the King surely makes it less likely that the monarchy will be restored - who would want to put his daughter who didn't grow up in the country in the position of Head of State. At least Michael had the right to say he was once King of the country. I think the Romanians are already doing the best thing - having some sort of role for the former RF but keeping a President as Head of State.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by tommy100

To be honest the death of the King surely makes it less likely that the monarchy will be restored - who would want to put his daughter who didn't grow up in the country in the position of Head of State. At least Michael had the right to say he was once King of the country. I think the Romanians are already doing the best thing - having some sort of role for the former RF but keeping a President as Head of State.

The royalists certainly do not support a compromise in order to see some descendants of the King serving the republic. The funeral had a big impact on the society and the debate about Monarchy does not seem to end but to grow.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by tommy100

To be honest the death of the King surely makes it less likely that the monarchy will be restored - who would want to put his daughter who didn't grow up in the country in the position of Head of State. At least Michael had the right to say he was once King of the country. I think the Romanians are already doing the best thing - having some sort of role for the former RF but keeping a President as Head of State.

I agree. Romania has the best of the two worlds. A democratic head of state ánd a former royal family for "the theatre of state". Other pretenders can only DREAM of such an opportunity.

The situation of Willem-Alexander, Carl XVI Gustaf or Margrethe II is not that much different. They are as symbolic and as ceremonial as Margareta. When the dot comes on the i, these "reigning" Sovereigns are as powerless as Margareta.

I would not mind the Netherlands to become a republic with a ceremonial role for the House of Orange-Nassau. It takes away an existential deficit, namely that the highest office of state is not democratically elected.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

I agree. Romania has the best of the two worlds. A democratic head of state ánd a former royal family for "the theatre of state". Other pretenders can only DREAM of such an opportunity.

The situation of Willem-Alexander, Carl XIV Gustaf or Margrethe II is not that much different. They are as symbolic and as ceremonial as Margareta. When the dot comes on the i, these "reigning" Sovereigns are as powerless as Margareta.

I would not mind the Netherlands to become a republic with a cerenonial role for the House of Orange-Nassau. It takes away an existential deficit, namely that the highest office of state is not democratically elected.

Romania is a republic not a Monarchy. There is nothing in the Constitution about Monarchy.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by Cory

Romania is a republic not a Monarchy. There is nothing in the Constitution about Monarchy.

Ja, und?

Of course Romania is a republic. And it will stay a republic. When Margareta and Radu manage to carve out a meaningful role for the former royal family: applause to them. Quite an achievement.

The so-called "monarchies" in Europe are in reality "crowned republics" anyway. Felipe VII is powerless without Prime Minister Rajoy. It is Theresa May who decides if Queen Elizabeth has to welcome Trump or not. King Willem-Alexander can do zero comma zero when the Prime Minister does not back him. It is all just a theatre of state, effectively.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

Ja, und?

Of course Romania is a republic. And it will stay a republic. When Margareta and Radu manage to carve out a meaningful role for the former royal family: applause to them. Quite an achievement.

The so-called "monarchies" in Europe are in reality "crowned republics" anyway. Felipe VII is powerless without Prime Minister Rajoy. It is Theresa May who decides if Queen Elizabeth has to welcome Trump or not. King Willem-Alexander can do zero comma zero when the Prime Minister does not back him. It is all just a theatre of state, as long as it is still accepted and tolerated.

To say that a constitutional Monarchy is a sort if republic does not really reflect the reality. They are different systems of government and the symbolism is extremely different.
Regarding those that want to support the republic it is their choice and has nothing to do with the Dynasty that started its path in Romania in 1866.
The future is quite hard to read and certainly all possibilities remain opened.

[maria-olivia]

We have a Royal Magazine called Point de Vue.
Last Week its front page was Johnny Hallyday and 20 pages inside for 12 pages about our late King Baudouin's Funerals
This Week again front page Johnny's Funerals at Saint Barthélemy with promise of printing Kng Michael's Funeral next WeeK.
I wonder if the late and last King will have Point de Vue's frontpage

[Cory]

The International press gave quite a good coverage to the Royal funeral anyhow. Let's hope "Point de Vue" will dedicate more space to this event next week.

An album with photos from the funeral could be published in the near future:

https://www.cotidianul.ro/casa-regal...-unui-proiect/

[eya]

This saturday January 13 at 12 o'clock the Royal Family will take part in the forty-day service from the death of King Mihai.
The service will be officiated by His Holiness Archbishop Calinic of Arges and Muscel and will take place in the Old Episcopal and Royal Cathedral at the Curtea de Arges Monastery.

Parastasul de 40 de zile, la Curtea de Argeș | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

[Cory]

Originally Posted by eya

This saturday January 13 at 12 o'clock the Royal Family will take part in the forty-day service from the death of King Mihai.
The service will be officiated by His Holiness Archbishop Calinic of Arges and Muscel and will take place in the Old Episcopal and Royal Cathedral at the Curtea de Arges Monastery.

Parastasul de 40 de zile, la Curtea de Argeș | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

Were Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills and his wife invited?

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by Cory

Were Nicholas de Roumanie Medforth Mills and his wife invited?

It is not yet the 13th of January. How can we say? And if he is not there, even then we will not know if Nicholas was actually invited or not.