Death and Funeral of King Michael, 5th & 16th December 2017

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by Cory

The National Museum that keeps the original Royal Steel Crown had not received from the organizers if the Funeral of the King a request to borrow and use this Crown during the funeral:

https://www.stiripesurse.ro/contre-p...i_1238113.html

I understood a copy of the Crown was used for the funeral. The original Crown could only be loaned by special permission from the minister and of course, like any artefact from the museum, it needs to be insured etc.

Interesting that no such request was made. And interesting that there was a copy. But it is not a valuable crown and possibly there are copies made to crown crests, armorials or canopies.

[Cory]

I find it very interesting that the original Crown was not requested.The King would have deserved the original for His funeral.

[tommy100]

Surely if there was ever a reason to use the original it would be this? I understand if it was too fragile to use, but it appears no request was even made and they just happened to have another on hand...a little odd.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by tommy100

Surely if there was ever a reason to use the original it would be this? I understand if it was too fragile to use, but it appears no request was even made and they just happened to have another on hand...a little odd.

It’s made from a cannonball, so it cannot be that fragile, one would imagine.

[Andy T]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

It’s made from a cannonball, so it cannot be that fragile, one would imagine.

There are, it seems, very tight legal restrictions on the use of the orginal crown, it being such an important historical artefact. Perhaps a request was not made either because it was understood that there were strong legal grounds for such a request to be refused or because the bureaucratic and legal processes necessary for approval would have taken too long.

The symbolism of the crown resting on the King's coffin and travelling at the head of the cortège was extremely potent and most beautiful.

[Andy T]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Without wishing to take anything away from the grief of Nicholas, which is, I am sure, profound and sincere, others were crying in that clip and over the last few days, images of all the family members crying have been seen.

Highlighting the grief of one above the others is just propaganda.

[Cory]

The symbolism was there without any doubt even if I am sure the original Crown would have been granted if requested.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Andy T

Without wishing to take anything away from the grief of Nicholas, which is, I am sure, profound and sincere, others were crying in that clip and over the last few days, images of all the family members crying have been seen.



Highlighting the grief of one above the others is just propaganda.

A lot of programs about the royal family are propaganda-like.

It’s all about PR.

You’ve surely seen Ora Regelui.

[Marengo]

Not only in Romania I fear .

I read that the train was very symbolic indeed. In january 1948 it was used to transport King Michael and his mother out of the country & into excile. Now the very same train was used to bring the king to his final resting place, in Romania. The train was made in Italy in 1928 for King Ferdinand.

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Hans Jacobs -GDP press journalist and owner of royalblog- reminded us: it was a missed chance for the house of Orange. In the spirit of Queens Wilhelmina & Juliana and Prince Bernhard they could have paid tribute to a man who courageously brought his country into the camp of the Allies during WWII.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

A lot of programs about the royal family are propaganda-like.

It’s all about PR.

You’ve surely seen Ora Regelui.

"Ora Regelui" is not as it used to be at the beginning.

[MissByrd]

Who was the other young man with the family at the funeral? Possibly the son of one of the other sisters?

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by MissByrd

Who was the other young man with the family at the funeral? Possibly the son of one of the other sisters?

That was Prince Georg Friedrich of Prussia.

I just watched the segment where the Romanians are saying goodbye to their foreign relatives after the ceremony in the square in front of the Royal Palace had ended. Queen Sofía particularly embraced and hugged Princess Sophie, who is in fact her goddaughter. That whole portion of the funeral was extremely moving.

[MissByrd]

Benjamin: Thank you...but I meant the young man who was with the family at the airport and throughout the day. One of the sisters was leaning on his arm part of the time. (I'm familiar with Prince Georg.)

[MissByrd]

In your post #327, his face is in the video with Nicholas.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by MissByrd

In your post #327, his face is in the video with Nicholas.

Oh! That is Mr Alexander Philips Nixon McAteer. He is the stepfather of Nicholas.

[Cory]

Probably one of the few close to Nicolas de Roumanie Medforth Mills in this Family.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by Marengo

Not only in Romania I fear .

I read that the train was very symbolic indeed. In january 1948 it was used to transport King Michael and his mother out of the country & into excile. Now the very same train was used to bring the king to his final resting place, in Romania. The train was made in Italy in 1928 for King Ferdinand.

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Hans Jacobs -GDP press journalist and owner of royalblog- reminded us: it was a missed chance for the house of Orange. In the spirit of Queens Wilhelmina & Juliana and Prince Bernhard they could have paid tribute to a man who courageously brought his country into the camp of the Allies during WWII.

I agree with Hans Jacobs. It was a rare no-show from the Dutch Royal House on a funeral. Yes to Bundespräsident Von Weiszäcker, yes to Prince Kardam of Tirnovo, yes to former Queen Anne of Romania, no to former King Michael of Romania? There will have been a reason. Agenda? Princess Beatrix seems not to be a person to opt out for nothing and she was the most obvious choice, together with her nephew the Duke of Parma.

[Cory]

There is any official explanation for the absence of the Dutch Royals and of the Bourbon-Parme?

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by Cory

There is any official explanation for the absence of the Dutch Royals and of the Bourbon-Parme?

No. The King and Queen have sent condoleances. The King's Ambassador in Romania has signed the Book of Condoleances at Elisabeta Palace and did attend the funeral.

[Cory]

What about the Bourbon-Parme Princes?