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12-17-2017, 07:51 AM
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Probably the members of some reigning Royal Houses had their schedule already full and could not attend the Funeral for this reason. The Sovereign was respected by all Royal Families and with his dignity and example of life inspired admiration among the European Royals.
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12-17-2017, 08:35 AM
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For the Danish and Norwegian royals I would say its probably just a case that no one was available.
In Denmark Fredrik and Joachim are away on holidays with families so that only leaves the Queen and Princess Benedikte. I suspect as Anne-Marie was there she may have represented both her husband and sister.
In Norway the King has recently been ill so an event sitting outside in December may not have been the best.
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12-17-2017, 09:00 AM
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There is an error in the guestlist: the first name even. Link.
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12-17-2017, 09:27 AM
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For the Danish and Norwegian royals I would say its probably just a case that no one was available.
In Denmark Fredrik and Joachim are away on holidays with families so that only leaves the Queen and Princess Benedikte. I suspect as Anne-Marie was there she may have represented both her husband and sister.
In Norway the King has recently been ill so an event sitting outside in December may not have been the best.
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I think it also depends on the personal relationship.
From Monaco only Prince Albert has personally known the former King. The monégasque princesses usually play no role in foreign representation.
From Denmark Queen Margrethe and Prince Henrik have personally known the late King. The Prince has retired. The four other members of the Royal House are from a far younger generation and have probably never met the former King.
From Norway King Harald and Queen Sonja have personally known the late King. The King is in frail health. The two other members of the Royal House are from a far younger generation and have probably never met the former King.
From the Netherlands Princess Beatrix has personally known the former King. The only two fulltime members of the Royal House (King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima) are from a far younger generation and have probably never met the former King.
When Monaco, Denmark, Norway and the Netherlands are represented by their Ambassadors, they are "represented" of course. Anyway, we may assume that letters will have been sent, as well floral tributes.
King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofía have personally known the former King.
The same for Archduke Lorenz and Archduchess Astrid (Lorenz was one of the King's counsels).
King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia have personally known the former King.
Grand Duke Henri has personally known the former King.
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12-17-2017, 09:31 AM
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12-17-2017, 09:36 AM
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I think it also depends on the personal relationship.
From Monaco only Prince Albert has personally known the former King. The monégasue princesses usually play no role in foreign representation.
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P.Stephanie coincidently visited Romania only a few months ago to unveil a statue of her father, the romanian RF was represented by mr Duda, so it wasn't that farfetched to think that she might have been here (not to speak of the many representations P.Caroline has undertaken for her country).
But i could imagine condoleances were sent, even if they couldn't participate in person...
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12-17-2017, 09:47 AM
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In reply to posters that keep up with the terms "former" and "current" powers that be in a certain country and the respect shown when a "former" head of state has passed, deposed or not, all I can say is that a "current" form of government and head of state is wise to acknowledge and show respect towards what was as it represents the people they serve. It not only embraces the past and the history but it also gives a tremendous sense of continuity to the people.
The funeral and coverage of King Michael of Romania proves this point eloquently.
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12-17-2017, 10:40 AM
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Do we know if queen Anne-Marie represented the greek or danish courts? Perhaps both, since she was born a danish princess.
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Since her marriage queen Anne Marie has represented the Greek royal family. She hasn't been a member of the Danish Royal Family for over 50 years. She gave up her rights when she married Konstantinos. So, unless a clear statement was issued (it wasn't) there is no reason to assume she represented the Danish court.
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12-17-2017, 10:45 AM
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No representation though from the Danish, Dutch and Norwegian courts. I wonder why. Maybe they were worried about antagonizing the Romanian government, but since it was a semi-state funeral anyway, that concern wouldn't make sense, would it ?
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The Netherlands was represented by the ambassador.
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12-17-2017, 10:49 AM
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I think it also depends on the personal relationship.
Grand Duke Henri has personally known the former King.
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In addition, the queen was his father's cousin, so there is also a close family relationship.
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12-17-2017, 11:08 AM
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The Netherlands was represented by the ambassador.
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Yes indeed:
"La Palatul Elisabeta, printre diplomaţii care au sosit vineri să semneze în cartea de condoleanţe a fost ambasadoarea Olandei, D-na. Stella Ronner-Grubačić."
("At the Elisabeta Palace, among the diplomats who arrived on Friday to sign in the condolence book, was the Ambassador of the Netherlands, Mrs. Stella Ronner-Grubačić.")
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12-17-2017, 11:22 AM
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Since her marriage queen Anne Marie has represented the Greek royal family. She hasn't been a member of the Danish Royal Family for over 50 years. She gave up her rights when she married Konstantinos. So, unless a clear statement was issued (it wasn't) there is no reason to assume she represented the Danish court.
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Queen Anne-Marie's title and style in Denmark between her marriage and the overthrow of the Greek monarchy was
Hendes Majestæt Anna-Maria, Hellenernes Dronning, Prinsesse af Danmark;
Nowadays, I believe she is referred to as
Hendes Majestæt Anna-Maria, førhen Hellenernes Dronning. Prinsesse af Danmark
The title Prinsesse af Danmark as opposed to Prinsesse til Danmark, as she was titled before her marriage, indicates that Anne-Marie is no longer in the line of succession to the Danish throne, so technically, I guess she is not a member of the Danish Royal House. She is still a member, however, of the Glücksburg dynasty as a direct descendant in male line of King Christian IX.
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12-17-2017, 11:32 AM
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The National Museum that keeps the original Royal Steel Crown had not received from the organizers if the Funeral of the King a request to borrow and use this Crown during the funeral:
https://www.stiripesurse.ro/contre-p...i_1238113.html
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12-17-2017, 11:57 AM
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Dr Dan Duda, the brother of Prince Radu, was allowed to ride on the Royal Train with the Royal Family as they accompanied the coffin of King Michael to Curtea de Argeș.
Interestingly, Princess Irina (a.k.a. Irina Walker) was permitted to travel with them, but Nicholas and Alina were not.
https://www.flux24.ro/pentru-cine-a-...-trenul-regal/
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12-17-2017, 11:59 AM
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The Israeli Government recognized the role of the late King and if the late Queen Mother during the second world war and their protection of the Jewish population:
https://www.flux24.ro/netanyahu-ii-o...na-mama-elena/
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12-17-2017, 12:07 PM
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Prince Philip and Queen Helen were first cousins, making Prince Charles and King Michael second cousins, and Prince William and King Michael second cousins once removed. I hope that makes sense!
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12-17-2017, 12:12 PM
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Could someone, perhaps post the video of Nicholas M-M leaving Curtea de Argeș? I've tried to find it, but cannot, and would be interested to see it .
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Many,many thanks Benjamin.
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12-17-2017, 01:07 PM
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Dr Dan Duda, the brother of Prince Radu, was allowed to ride on the Royal Train with the Royal Family as they accompanied the coffin of King Michael to Curtea de Argeș.
Interestingly, Princess Irina (a.k.a. Irina Walker) was permitted to travel with them, but Nicholas and Alina were not.
https://www.flux24.ro/pentru-cine-a-...-trenul-regal/
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"Royal Train"? Or a chartered train to transport the former King?
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12-17-2017, 01:09 PM
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"Royal Train"? Or a chartered train to transport the former King?
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Oh, dear Duc, where have you been?
Trenul Regal
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