Crown Princess Margarita and Prince Radu news and current events part 2 (2016-)

[Gaudete]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

The truth will come out, no doubt.

If the three people assaulted physically were the members of the King's household then Margareta couldn't bring an assault charge. They would have to undertake that charge themselves. As you say the details will come out but based on Duc's post, this is far more serious than at first it appeared. At the very least he's guilty of forced entry - by his own admission he's guilty of that. The rest I imagine will be resolved privately.

[Duc_et_Pair]

We may assume there were security cameras in Aubonne. Plus three of the domestic staff who were embroiled, plus three nurses whom witnessed all the turmoil. If true, the plaintiffs seem to have a strong position.

[Gaudete]

Changing the subject to something more positive, I'm not sure if this article was shared here before but the portrait that accompanies it is very striking. Her Majesty looks great!

Margareta of Romania, an influential lady | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

Interestingly, the article says:

"Erroneously, the foreign press reported that the Crown Princess had taken over the role of Custodian of the Crown, which is usually incumbent upon the head of the Royal Family. But in fact Her Royal Highness the Crown Princess Margareta of Romania assumed the role of Custodian of the Crown on 30 December 2007, through an act promulgated by His Majesty King Michael I of Romania in his capacity as sovereign and suzerain".

I wonder if this is the first time a style has been inherited (Majesty) but a title (King/Queen) has not?

[Krisz]

This is my first message on the Forum, so Hello to everyone.
I would like to ask a question. Some years ago I read on another message board that Princess Margarita became seriously ill (possibly with cancer). It was during the period when she began to lose a lot of weight and was doing it very quickly.
Do you know or have you heard anything about it?

Then came the news that Nicholas was made a Prince and brought into the "royalty business" in Romania. It seemed logical that some kind of inheritance issues must have been solved quickly. Nicholas found his role and became quite popular in a short period of time. Then came the news that Princess Maria also moved to Romania and began to take part in the public "duties" of the royal family. The ousting of Prince Nicholas was sudden and out of the blue. Some days before that he was seemingly unaware of anything while posing and smiling on a bike in the park around Savarsin with Margarita and Radu standing behind him....

I have quite a lot of friends among intellectuals in Romania and none of them think that the restoration of the monarchy is a realistic option. Radu Duda is extremely unpopular and is considered to be an ambitious but shady figure with hidden agendas, who likes playing the role of a top soldier, author, prince, potential president of the republic, plus a loving husband and whatever serves his ambitions. Given the growing popularity of the young prince and the unpopularity of the "boss" in the family (no, the boss was not the king himself), the conflicts could be foreseen in the system.

Nowadays there are rumours (also in the papers) that Princess Maria has an affair with Duda's brother--theoretically a family man--who was invited to travel on the royal train with the coffin, while the king's grandson was forbidden to do so. I don't know if these rumors are true or not, but the "popularity" of Margarita and Radu is reaching negative records these days in Romania, that's for sure. Some twists and turns may as well easily happen in the near future or a bit later.

[Gaudete]

Originally Posted by Krisz

This is my first message on the Forum, so Hello to everyone.
I would like to ask a question. Some years ago I read on another message board that Princess Margarita became seriously ill (possibly with cancer). It was during the period when she began to lose a lot of weight and was doing it very quickly.
Do you know or have you heard anything about it?

Welcome Krisz, hope you enjoy this place.

I too heard rumours that Her Majesty had been ill at one time and this was the reason for her weight loss but I don't think there's ever been any confirmation or serious reason to suggest that she had a serious medical condition.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Krisz

This is my first message on the Forum, so Hello to everyone.
I would like to ask a question. Some years ago I read on another message board that Princess Margarita became seriously ill (possibly with cancer). It was during the period when she began to lose a lot of weight and was doing it very quickly.
Do you know or have you heard anything about it?

Then came the news that Nicholas was made a Prince and brought into the "royalty business" in Romania. It seemed logical that some kind of inheritance issues must have been solved quickly. Nicholas found his role and became quite popular in a short period of time. Then came the news that Princess Maria also moved to Romania and began to take part in the public "duties" of the royal family. The ousting of Prince Nicholas was sudden and out of the blue. Some days before that he was seemingly unaware of anything while posing and smiling on a bike in the park around Savarsin with Margarita and Radu standing behind him....

I have quite a lot of friends among intellectuals in Romania and none of them think that the restoration of the monarchy is a realistic option. Radu Duda is extremely unpopular and is considered to be an ambitious but shady figure with hidden agendas, who likes playing the role of a top soldier, author, prince, potential president of the republic, plus a loving husband and whatever serves his ambitions. Given the growing popularity of the young prince and the unpopularity of the "boss" in the family (no, the boss was not the king himself), the conflicts could be foreseen in the system.

Nowadays there are rumours (also in the papers) that Princess Maria has an affair with Duda's brother--theoretically a family man--who was invited to travel on the royal train with the coffin, while the king's grandson was forbidden to do so. I don't know if these rumors are true or not, but the "popularity" of Margarita and Radu is reaching negative records these days in Romania, that's for sure. Some twists and turns may as well easily happen in the near future or a bit later.

Margarita may well have been ill - there have been whispers about that off and on for some years.

Helen and Mia's drastic weight loss was due to having bariatric surgery. It has worked very well for them, and Mia looks like a completely different person now than she did about a decade ago. After moving to Romania, she also had a (probably minor) dental procedure, which corrected one of her front teeth that was slightly discoloured and had grown in rather sideways.

Nowadays, Mia could almost pass as a younger clone of Margarita...which is rather appropriate since the eldest sister is the godmother of the youngest.

[Gaudete]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Margarita may well have been ill - there have been whispers about that off and on for some years.

Helen and Mia's drastic weight loss was due to having bariatric surgery. It has worked very well for them, and Mia looks like a completely different person now than she did about a decade ago. After moving to Romania, she also had a (probably minor) dental procedure, which corrected one of her front teeth that was slightly discoloured and had grown in rather sideways.

Nowadays, Mia could almost pass as a younger clone of Margarita...which is rather appropriate since the eldest sister is the godmother of the youngest.

Most of the family seem to have had a bit of a brush up in the last decade. I wonder if it's a case of "folleting"? (Something Margareta could have picked up from Gordon Brown perhaps? ). The Labour Party in the UK sent their female MPs and candidates for makeovers before the 1997 election. Women with brown hair were told what colours to avoid, women with red hair were told what colours to wear, short women were told to avoid skirts, tall women were told to wear only trousers. The rules were set by a lady called Barbara Follet and the process became known as 'Folleting'. It proved successful enough to deliver "Blair's Babes" in 1997 and other institutions have since used the same process to prepare someone for increased media appearances or interest.

I could be barking up the wrong tree of course but certainly there's no doubt that collectively the ladies of the Royal Family seem to have all gotten a little smarter and more polished.

[Krisz]

Thanks to both of you for these interesting details.

[Benjamin]

Crown Princess Margarita and Prince Radu are being given sixty days to move out of Elisabeta Palace.

From Libertatea:

"Princess Margareta, who is the successor of King Michael, who died on December 5, 2017, has sixty days to move out of Elisabeta Palace.

In February, the law governing the residence of the Elisabeta Palace, which was offered to King Michael during his lifetime, expires.

Thus, according to Law 406 / 10.07 / 2001 (Law on the Granting of Rights to the Chief of the Romanian State) it is stipulated that, "the family members of the holder [i.e. King Michael] enjoy the right of free use, according to art. 2 lit. a) during the lifetime of the holder and must release the dwelling within sixty days of the holders death."

The King's family should leave Elisabeta Palace by the beginning of February, unless parliamentarians vote for the bill to give the Royal House an NGO status that allows them to continue to use the residence."

Source: https://www.libertatea.ro/stiri/prin...regala-2081851

[LadyRohan]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Crown Princess Margarita and Prince Radu are being given sixty days to move out of Elisabeta Palace.

From Libertatea:

"Princess Margareta, who is the successor of King Michael, who died on December 5, 2017, has sixty days to move out of Elisabeta Palace.

In February, the law governing the residence of the Elisabeta Palace, which was offered to King Michael during his lifetime, expires.

Thus, according to Law 406 / 10.07 / 2001 (Law on the Granting of Rights to the Chief of the Romanian State) it is stipulated that, "the family members of the holder [i.e. King Michael] enjoy the right of free use, according to art. 2 lit. a) during the lifetime of the holder and must release the dwelling within sixty days of the holders death."

The King's family should leave Elisabeta Palace by the beginning of February, unless parliamentarians vote for the bill to give the Royal House an NGO status that allows them to continue to use the residence."

Source: https://www.libertatea.ro/stiri/prin...regala-2081851

In all fairness, this is just an account of the current arrangements, based on the law as it stands, and not based on anything recently said or announced by any official. I think it is fair to assume that this arrangement will be sorted in due course and well before the current law expires, and should the new law not have come into effect in time, more than likely the Royal Family will be given the clear privately to remain in place until the more permanent fix is in.

It would be unseemly at this stage in the middle of heavy court mourning to announce much, but I am quite sure that behind the scenes, the Royal Family has been assured that this will be sorted and that there is no cause to start packing. After all, parliament is about to make clear, in law, that the Royal Family is again to be a fixture of Romanian official life. It would be a pointless start to that process, to evict them from the Elisabeth Palace because of the arrangements made with regards to the late King, when the same palace will be theirs to use for a proposed 49 years onwards, as soon as the new law is in place.

However, it would be helpful if this would be publicly clarified asap, so these kinds of articles would not be put in print, and add to any confusion some might have over the status of the Royal House going forward.

[eya]

Christmas Message of Her Majesty Margareta, Custodian of the Romanian Crown

Christmas Message of Her Majesty Margareta, Custodian of the Romanian Crown | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

And the Christmas Card

http://www.romaniaregala.ro/jurnal/craciun-luminat/

[Somebody]

Was the name 'King Michael the Steadfast and Just' used before or did Margareta make that up?

She is working hard to paint a picture of her father as a Saint.

[maria-olivia]

Christmas Greetings from my Romanian Friends. They don't agree with the huge amount their poor Country paid for an ex Royal 's Funerals.

[Cory]

The prime minister agrees the Kings Family can stay in Elisabeta Palace if the Family pays rent and reminds everybody the country is a republic:

https://www.stiripesurse.ro/lovitura...i_1240324.html

[LadyRohan]

PM Tudose is making a stand, understandable to some and distasteful to others, but this is still an issue that there is movement on and that I am quite convinced will be resolved one way or the other.
I am quite sure nobody needs reminding that Romania isn't a monarchy today. His words should be read as a statement of yet another unstable government trying to keep their backs clean when the law eventually passes and they can say that they did, in the process leading up to it, make clear what the bounds and expectations were of the Royal Family.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by maria-olivia

Christmas Greetings from my Romanian Friends. They don't agree with the huge amount their poor Country paid for an ex Royal 's Funerals.

They must be an exception. Generally the public opinion approved national funeral for the late King.

[RoyalHighness 2002]

I really don't get why politicians are so afraid of popular deposed royals in their country. In the case of the Romanian gov't, they do realize that the RF is practically functioning like a monarchy would, just without the extensive funding and name. The only thing they aren't doing is opening Parliament, hosting state banquets, and attending all state occasions. I think these politicians think that to restore the monarchy, you have to make it an absolute monarchy, which is not true. There are several popular monarchies where the monarch has no political role (Sweden, Japan). If they did their research, I think they would be more open to the idea and the income it can bring for the country.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Originally Posted by RoyalHighness 2002

I really don't get why politicians are so afraid of popular deposed royals in their country. In the case of the Romanian gov't, they do realize that the RF is practically functioning like a monarchy would, just without the extensive funding and name. The only thing they aren't doing is opening Parliament, hosting state banquets, and attending all state occasions. I think these politicians think that to restore the monarchy, you have to make it an absolute monarchy, which is not true. There are several popular monarchies where the monarch has no political role (Sweden, Japan). If they did their research, I think they would be more open to the idea and the income it can bring for the country.

Would the United States fund a palace, a staff of 20, an annual Budget, facilitary assistance from the State and by the Armed Forces to Mrs Marc Mezvinsky née Clinton, the daughter of a former head of state? That is essentially what happens in Romania. It is not so strange that there is controverse about it.

Romania is a republic but, when this plan goes on, will treat it's citizens differently. One of their citizens, the Swiss-born Mrs Radu Duda née Von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen will then receive from the republican State what the lady in supermarket next street can only dream about. It is not so strange that there are politicians against it, if not because of ideology, then because of principle.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

Would the United States fund a palace, a staff of 20, an annual Budget, facilitary assistance from the State and by the Armed Forces to Malia Obama, the daughter of a former head of state? That is essentially what happens in Romania. It is not so strange that there is controverse about it.

Romania is a republic but, when this plan goes on, will treat it's citizens differently. One of their citizens, the Swiss-born Mrs Radu Duda née Margareta Prinzessin von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen then receives from the republican State what the lady in supermarket next streets does not receive.

There is no such a person with a Surname like this.
Certainly the King's Family have properties and they do not need anything from the state.

[RoyalHighness 2002]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

Would the United States fund a palace, a staff of 20, an annual Budget, facilitary assistance from the State and by the Armed Forces to Malia Obama, the daughter of a former head of state? That is essentially what happens in Romania. It is not so strange that there is controverse about it.

Romania is a republic but, when this plan goes on, will treat it's citizens differently. One of their citizens, the Swiss-born Mrs Radu Duda née Margareta Prinzessin von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen then receives from the republican State what the lady in supermarket next streets does not receive.

I guess I didn't make it clear, I meant if the monarchy was restored.