Crown Princess Margarita and Prince Radu news and current events part 2 (2016-)

[maria-olivia]

Will they have a glittering tiara Gala Event with the King and the Queen

[eya]

Second Day visit in Jordan Tuesday, October 10

On Tuesday morning, CP Margareta and Prince Radu were guests of the Jordanian Medical Assistance Council, under the presidency of Princess Muna . The meeting was attended by the delegation of the rectors in Romania, led by the professor Sorin Cîmpeanu, president of the Romanian Rectors' Council.

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Tuesday, at noon, CP Margareta and Princess Radu visited together with the entire university delegation with members of the Romanian Sports and Olympic Committee and representatives of the Red Cross National Society in Romania the royal cemetery in Amman where they recaptured at the tomb King Hussein of Jordan, as well as at the grave of the founder of the Jordanian state, King Abdullah I.

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And the visit ended last night where CP Margareta and Prince Radu attended the reception offered by the Ambassador of Romania to the Jordan , Mr. Nicolae Comanescu, and Mrs. Comanescu. SHe was present also Princess Muna

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[maria-olivia]

This was a private Visit and they were Princess Muna's Guest.
A State Visit of Jordan is posponed

[eya]

On Wednesday, October 18,CP Margareta and Prince Radu was received at the Patriarchal Residence by His Beatitude Daniel, the Patriarch of the Romanian Orthodox Church.

Custodele Coroanei a întâlnit pe Părintele Patriarh Daniel | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania


On the occasion of 40 days after the passing of the mother Radu's mother , CP Margareta and Prince Radu took part in a memorial service and a meal in memory of Gabriel Duda . The event was private and was hosted by Plumbuita Monastery.

Slujbă de pomenire, la Mânăstirea Plumbuita | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania


On Thursday, October 19, at the Bookstore of the Bookstore of the same name on Artur Verona Street, Curtea Veche Publishing released one of the most recent books of the publishing house, written by Adrian Cioroianu and illustrated by Yanna Zosmer.
The volume is titled "Margarita of Romania. A principle in the service of the country found "and is intended for small readers as well as, as the publishers suggest, to all adults who have a child's heart.

O principesă în serviciul țării regăsite | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

CP Margareta and Prince Radu visits today the Constanta County, where they visited three rural localities.

Vizită regală la Albești, Coroana și Cotu Văii | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

On the 2nd of November , CP Margareta visited the "Regina Maria" Secondary School in Bucharest, the 6th district, which, at the age of 50, decided to bear the name of the Queen of Romania .

Principesa Moștenitoare Margareta la Școala Regina Maria din Capitală | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

Also November 2, Bucharest celebrated the first four years since the founding of The Duke of Edinburgh's International Award Romania, under the royal patronage of CP Margareta!

Programul The Duke of Edinburgh’s International Award în România, 4 ani | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

[Benjamin]

Documents have been released by a newspaper in Iasi showing that Prince Radu joined in 1986 the Securitate, the secret police agency of the Socialist Republic of Romania.

A spokesman of the prince has been asked for comment, but the media did not receive a response before the article went to press.

The papers had formerly been in the possession of the Romanian Communist Party's Secretary in Iasi, Radu's hometown, before they were removed from her residence during the 1989 Revolution.

https://www.bzi.ro/exclusiv-iata-dov...la-iasi-629964

https://magnanews.ro/2017/11/17/secr...asi-documente/

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This information was more or less a cause of concern to advisors who were close to King Michael and Queen Anne in the 1990s. Interestingly, a few of these individuals were already hinting at Radu's past earlier this week, before the papers in Iasi were published.

https://psnews.ro/exploziv-marius-op...clusiv-195905/

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There are also questions being raised as to why the Royal House is not issuing regular bulletins on the health of His Majesty. The silence of Crown Princess Margarita at this time has some perturbed.

De ce tace Principesa Margareta? | national.ro

[xenobia]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Documents have been released by a newspaper in Iasi showing that Prince Radu joined in 1986 the Securitate, the secret police agency of the Socialist Republic of Romania.

A spokesman of the prince has been asked for comment, but the media did not receive a response before the article went to press.

The papers had formerly been in the possession of the Romanian Communist Party's Secretary in Iasi, Radu's hometown, before they were removed from her residence during the 1989 Revolution.

https://www.bzi.ro/exclusiv-iata-dov...la-iasi-629964

https://magnanews.ro/2017/11/17/secr...asi-documente/

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This information was more or less a cause of concern to advisors who were close to King Michael and Queen Anne in the 1990s. Interestingly, a few of these individuals were already hinting at Radu's past earlier this week, before the papers in Iasi were published.

https://psnews.ro/exploziv-marius-op...clusiv-195905/

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There are also questions being raised as to why the Royal House is not issuing regular bulletins on the health of His Majesty. The silence of Crown Princess Margarita at this time has some perturbed.

De ce tace Principesa Margareta? | national.ro

If it's true that Radu is or was a member of the Securitate, will that have any effect on his position? Would it change peoples perception of him? I don't know how the people of Rumania think and feel about these things.

[Duc_et_Pair]

Half of Romania was somehow linked to the Communist Party, to the Communist Youth Organization, to the Securitate (or in Germany the Stasi), typical giant widespread networks in which the one half of the population spied the other half and together paralyzing the free will of the people, enforcing it in the mould of the Communist Party. Radu made a career in the Armed Forces. Radu would never have that career without a "contra prestation" to the State. Vladimir Putin was a KGB Colonel. Those were the times.

[Benjamin]

According to the Royal Household, the condition of King Michael has stabilised.

Access to the king will continue to be limited to the daughters of the King as well as Metropolitan Iosif of the Roumanian Orthodox Diocese of Western and Southern Europe or his representatives.

Crown Princess Margarita will be returning to Bucharest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW1Mk37fSGo

Margareta de Roumanie retourne à Bucarest - Noblesse & Royautés

Regele Mihai, "într-o stare îngrijorătoare de sănătate". Principesa Margareta se întoarce în ţară - Stirileprotv.ro

[eya]

CP Margareta and Prince Radu received a delegation from the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC), headed by Mr. Kerem Kinik, Federation Vice-President, on 21 November at Elisabeta Palace.

Delegația Federației Internaționale a Crucii Roșii și Semilunei Roșii la Palatul Elisabeta | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

[eya]

Monday, December 4, CP Margareta and Prince Radu hosted, at Elisabeta Palace, an evening dedicated to the Republic of Finland, on the occasion of the celebration of December 6, one hundred years after the proclamation of independence.
The event was attended the Ambassador of Finland to Bucharest, Mrs. Paivi Pohjanheimo, together with Mr Pohjanheimo. There were diplomats from the Embassy of Finland in Bucharest, embassy employees, representatives of Finnish companies based in Romania.

Seara Palatului Elisabeta dedicată Finlandei | Familia Regală a României / Royal Family of Romania

[Benjamin]

It seems that the drama will continue.

Margarita has not in fact dropped the "home invasion" charge against Nicholas from November, when he tried for the last time to visit his dying grandfather.

Presumably both of them will have to appear at court in Vaud next month (January 2018) to have the case heard. Suppose that is what Nicholas was referring to when he said that there would not be any public statements for forty days; he was aware that the next time any of them spoke would be in this capacity. The family continues to implode.

So much for hopes of reconciliation.

Pacea din familia regală ține până la sfârșitul doliului. Principele Nicolae și Principesa Margareta se confruntă în ianuarie la tribunal

[Benjamin]

One must concede, Her Majesty the Custodian of the Crown is doing a marvellous job uniting the family.

https://www.qmagazine.ro/familia-reg...t-la-tribunal/

https://www.realitatea.net/adevarul-...l_2128300.html

LINIŞTEA dinaintea FURTUNII. Pacea din FAMILIA REGALĂ mai ţine până în IANUARIE

A member of the ruling PSD is suggesting that a referendum be held to have the monarchy restored.

Principesa Margareta, șeful statului român? Numărul 2 din PSD anunță referendum privind monarhia (VIDEO)

Surely a fabulous idea, given the state of affairs.

[Gaudete]

If he broke the law, she has a right to press charges. No poster here can say whether he did or he didn’t so before rushing to defend either side, it would seem prudent to wait for the details that come out of that court case surely? And if he has broken the law, is his aunt supposed to overlook it because a few royalists like him?

[Marengo]

Of course she has a right to press charges, but that does not mean that it is wise to do so.

A loving aunt -and christian- could also forgive her nephew and understand that being denied to see a dying & loved grandfather may lead to strong emotions.

A savy PR-person would surely advice them to sweep the thing under the carpet, try to work things out or at least pretend a show of unity.

A sensible manager of a family business -which CPss Margaretha now should be- should find a way of solving this matter one way or the other and do what is best for the firm. Since it is a family business and Nicholas is the only viable candidate in the next generation they need to sort things out one way or the other.

If they want to stand any chance in a possible referendum they need to be united. Nobody wants a feuding family to represent them. The newlyweds with a wedding in Romania, with a Romanian wife and possibly some young children born and raised in Romania will be one of the biggests assets of the family. Instead they are making it the opposite. If they can not sort this out they everything they have been trying to achieve will have been for nothing.

I am sure both parties have played a role in the escalation and perhaps Nicholas played the largest part. But kicking him down even more while he is already lying on the ground does not reflect well on the family. It would be the best for all involved if they can find a way to forgive, to help him solve his issues, get his life back on track as he seems to be trying to and to slowly rebuild trust. The wedding seems a perfect occasion for a show of reconciliation. It is the most practical, the most clever, the wisest, the most humane, and the most Christian thing to do and the only way forward.

It worked the same for Princess Margarita of Bourbon-Parma who betrayed her family and especially her aunt Queen Beatrix in ways much worse.

[Gaudete]

Strong emotions are one thing but we don’t know what those strong emotions translated into. I don’t think it’s wise to speculate on what he did but what if it’s a very serious charge indeed? Should GBH be swept under the carpet because it won’t look good in the newspapers?

A referendum is a long way off. That’s if it ever happens at all. Margareta has to do what’s right and if that means pressing charges for something Nicholas did, then so be it. What sort of example would she be setting if she didn’t apply the law to her own family?

[LadyRohan]

Originally Posted by Gaudete

What sort of example would she be setting if she didn’t apply the law to her own family?

A wise one.
It might be the hallmark of some to immediately rush to the justice system to alleviate anything allflicted onto you or others around you, but in some cases, especially high-profile or royal cases, some common sense is usually key first.
The Custodian of the Crown needs the goodwill of the Romanian people if she is to be legitimized as the heir to her father and prospective Queen of the country at some stage. It is a bad start to that job to use the legal system against the only one who can realistically succeed her as head of the family someday.

The trouble with former Royal Families, is that so often they tend to exclude the PR aspect of their roles and aspirations, and go straight for the jugular, when trying to reach a goal or two. That is precisely the kind of self-inflicted wound that they can ill afford to have from now on, and reasonably, the Custodian is quite aware of that, I'm sure.

It's just a matter of finding a dignified way of getting out of a trench dug needlessly, and that's not always an easy process. For the sake of her family though, and any aspirations she might harbour to continue the work of her father, and possibly achieve what he was unable to following his forced exile, she needs to find that way, and fast. News media is relentness in the world we live in today, and the RRF cannot afford this being an issue if the affection and love shown towards the kind and the whole family the past few weeks is to be harnessed into something more lasting.

Tick-tock, it's definately time to get off the high horse and cancel any legal procedures against a grieving and desperate grandson who was trying to see his grandfather before his passing. That's not much of a crime in the end, and something that should be dealt with in private, away from the eyes of the world.

[Gaudete]

What concerns me is that Nicholas is being set up as the injured party who can do no wrong here. Even to the extent that people would overlook criminal action for the good of the Royal Family in the future. A referendum is a very very dim possibility and even if it happens, a restoration is even more unlikely. If Nicholas was put back into the Royal Family, it's not going to be as Custodian to the Crown. That's Margareta's job. He comes after her, he comes after his mother - his mother has condemned his behaviour too of course - and so the idea that Margareta is trying to do Nicholas out of something that's rightfully his is ridiculous. Why would it bother her? She won't be around to see it.

So many excuses seem to be made for this guy and Margareta and Radu are cast as pantomime villains with an evil agenda towards a handsome young prince. Which is exactly what Nicholas aimed for in his press releases but I can't believe it's swallowed so readily. From what we know of the incident in Switzerland, Nicholas attempted (by his own admission) to see the King seven times. He was refused. Whether by Margareta, Radu, Elena or the King himself, that was the wish of the family at a difficult time. And Nicholas had hardly given them any reason to be kind given the things he's said about them. If anyone needs a lesson in dignity, it's a young man with far too big an ego.

I can't say that Margareta and Radu are blameless, I don't know what their part in all this was just as I don't know whether Nicholas did or didn't get violent as has been claimed. But monarchy is supposed to set a high standard and I can't see how turning a blind eye to a crime in the name of good publicity sets a high standard. What exactly has Nicholas done to deserve such kindness? Why would his aunt be loving and forgiving when he's done everything he can to make life difficult for her over a decision she herself had no say in?

A woman scorned is one thing but an ex Romanian prince seems to be in a league of his own. If, and it's a very big if, this referendum proposal comes off then maybe it's time for Margareta to have a discussion with her sister and to see how they'd like to progress in the future concerning Nicholas. However, if the argument is "He may be King one day so we should let him off thumping a member of the family".....well what a good King he'll make....

[LadyRohan]

Originally Posted by Gaudete

What concerns me is that Nicholas is being set up as the injured party who can do no wrong here. Even to the extent that people would overlook criminal action for the good of the Royal Family in the future. A referendum is a very very dim possibility and even if it happens, a restoration is even more unlikely. If Nicholas was put back into the Royal Family, it's not going to be as Custodian to the Crown. That's Margareta's job. He comes after her, he comes after his mother - his mother has condemned his behaviour too of course - and so the idea that Margareta is trying to do Nicholas out of something that's rightfully his is ridiculous. Why would it bother her? She won't be around to see it.

So many excuses seem to be made for this guy and Margareta and Radu are cast as pantomime villains with an evil agenda towards a handsome young prince. Which is exactly what Nicholas aimed for in his press releases but I can't believe it's swallowed so readily. From what we know of the incident in Switzerland, Nicholas attempted (by his own admission) to see the King seven times. He was refused. Whether by Margareta, Radu, Elena or the King himself, that was the wish of the family at a difficult time. And Nicholas had hardly given them any reason to be kind given the things he's said about them. If anyone needs a lesson in dignity, it's a young man with far too big an ego.

I can't say that Margareta and Radu are blameless, I don't know what their part in all this was just as I don't know whether Nicholas did or didn't get violent as has been claimed. But monarchy is supposed to set a high standard and I can't see how turning a blind eye to a crime in the name of good publicity sets a high standard. What exactly has Nicholas done to deserve such kindness? Why would his aunt be loving and forgiving when he's done everything he can to make life difficult for her over a decision she herself had no say in?

A woman scorned is one thing but an ex Romanian prince seems to be in a league of his own. If, and it's a very big if, this referendum proposal comes off then maybe it's time for Margareta to have a discussion with her sister and to see how they'd like to progress in the future concerning Nicholas. However, if the argument is "He may be King one day so we should let him off thumping a member of the family".....well what a good King he'll make....

One could probably assign the same motives in reverse here, instead of 'Margareta and Radu are cast as pantomime villains with an evil agenda towards a handsome young prince', it seems you are casting Nicholas as the evil criminal and Margareta and Radu are doing their very best to handle the situation with the impossible Nicholas by keeping him at an arms length where he belongs.

I think you'll find the truth is somewhere in the middle, it usually is. Nicholas was removed from the place he was elevated to with a penstroke and no explanation. It's not unreasonable to find that he is upset about that (not necessarily aspirationally, but as a grandson, on a human level, surely), and when his grandfather who orchestrated both his entry and exit into titular Romanian life and succession to the throne, is dying, it's not an unimaginable thing to see that he tries to contact him one last time. As for 'thumping a member of the family', that is not what has been alleged, but attempts at forced entry, is what he is said to have done, and what he made clear himself when asked by reporters outside the late Kings home in Aubonne.

Nobody is necessarily in the right or wrong when things go too far, such as this seemingly has, and nobody is painting a picture of an infallible prince, unfairly ostracized by his own family and in need of public affection and support.
He has however, been the only person from the 2nd generation to be included in the Royal Family and he is the only one beside the Princesses who has learnt the language, moved to Romania and involved himself in active civic work to raise the profile of the Royal Family. That's what a Royal Family does, and that's what he was asked to do.

The question before the Custodian now is a simple one; should the Royal Family accrue negative publicity around this issue, or can it be resolved in a different way? Most of us would hope for the latter, because the Royal Family, in the precarious position it is in now, needs stability. Put PR, plans to restore monarchy and everything else to one side, this is a family that has struggled for decades to find a good balance in their private lives, and they deserve to find it now. When you add back into the mix the campaign that is visibly gaining momentum in Romania at this moment, around the question of restoring the monarchy and removing the vestiges of communism imposed on them after WWII, it becomes clear that these kinds of 'distractions', real as I'm sure they feel to those involved, come with a high price, if the goal ahead is to be reached.

You are right, the example and purpose of monarchy is part of its mystique, and precisely for that reason, the Custodian must strongly consider a different course of action with regards to Nicholas, as long as he is the only viable option post her, in Romania.

[Gaudete]

Nicholas was removed from the place he was elevated to with a penstroke and no explanation. It's not unreasonable to find that he is upset about that (not necessarily aspirationally, but as a grandson, on a human level, surely), and when his grandfather who orchestrated both his entry and exit into titular Romanian life and succession to the throne, is dying, it's not an unimaginable thing to see that he tries to contact him one last time.

There was an explanation given. The King didn't feel he was living a moral life. This is what gave rise to allegations that Nicholas had fathered an illegitimate child (a matter still unresolved) or that he was homosexual. Nicholas himself said in 2015 that he accepted (albeit with regret) his grandfather's decision and that this was because he respected His Majesty. Nicholas also said that he had found it difficult to live out his new role. He said that he couldn't live up to the high expectations of his grandfather. Whether he now claims he never made such a statement or not, it's taken him long enough to deny that he ever released that August 2015 statement. And if he had nothing to lose, why didn't he just say he had never released such a statement when it was first seen in 2015? If it doesn't make sense, it usually isn't true. And what Nicholas is saying doesn't make sense.

What he'd like us to believe is as follows:

That he had never put a foot wrong, that he was unfairly removed from the Royal House with absolutely no explanation, that he was deeply hurt as he'd grown into that role, that his aunt and uncle have persecuted and bullied him, that he never released any statement saying that he agreed with his grandfather's decision and that he's being ostracised unfairly from his family at Margareta's order.

I call bull. That doesn't make sense.

Firstly, Margareta has absolutely nothing to gain by persecuting her nephew and trying to keep him out of the Royal House. That's something we can all agree on. Whether it's because it will damage the possibility of a win in a referendum, whether it's for PR reasons or whether it's just for the sake of family harmony, Margareta has absolutely nothing to gain. Indeed, this has all been used to paint her as a devil child intent on holding onto something that isn't hers at the cost of an innocent young man's reputation. So if Margareta is behind it, she's actually ruined her own reputation, something I don't believe she would be silly enough to do. She's older, wiser and knows what exile is like. Nicholas doesn't.

Secondly, there is absolutely no doubt that Nicholas did release that 2015 statement because he referred to it several times in the immediate aftermath. He also had September 2015, November 2015, December 2015 - all the way up until November 2017 infact - to deny releasing it. He chose to make the statement saying he had no knowledge of that statement in December after his grandfather died. Now if Nicholas was being wronged by his family, knowing that he isn't shy in dealing with the press, why did it take him all that time to deny that original statement? It doesn't make sense. He absolutely released that statement or at least had knowledge of it because he referenced it several times throughout 2016. So his latest statement is at best, misleading, at worst, a lie.

As for 'thumping a member of the family', that is not what has been alleged, but attempts at forced entry, is what he is said to have done, and what he made clear himself when asked by reporters outside the late Kings home in Aubonne.

I take what he tells reporters with a pinch of salt. He's contradicted himself before, I get the feeling he'd say anything for a headline. We'll find out the full details in due course at the court hearing but anyone who attempts to enter a property seven times is guilty of harassment at the very least. And how do we know the King himself hadn't let it be known that he didn't want to see Nicholas? Why is it automatically a plot led by Margareta and Radu? Does anyone honestly think they're that cold hearted? Again, what do they have to gain? Nicholas was already a distraction at the funeral, if they wanted to keep him away at all costs he wouldn't have been given the treatment at the funeral he was. Which IMO was very generous considering the way he's treated his aunt. On the one hand he blames Radu. On the other he blames the entire family. But Margareta has never struck me as a vindictive petty woman. And let's not forget, her father was dying. It wasn't just about Nicholas and his grandfather, this was about a woman saying goodbye to her father just a year after losing her mother. Where is the compassion for her?

He has however, been the only person from the 2nd generation to be included in the Royal Family and he is the only one beside the Princesses who has learnt the language, moved to Romania and involved himself in active civic work to raise the profile of the Royal Family. That's what a Royal Family does, and that's what he was asked to do.

I agree. He was asked to do that. He said that he found it difficult, his grandfather felt he wasn't capable and he was removed. Should have tried harder.

The question before the Custodian now is a simple one; should the Royal Family accrue negative publicity around this issue, or can it be resolved in a different way?

She absolutely has to deal with the issue but what I don't like is how this is now almost tantamount to blackmail. Margareta is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. In the midst of her father's death, she's got the added strain of dealing with a nephew who seems to be taking some very bad advice. Throughout the King's last illness, Nicholas has constantly run to the press with negative stories. I can't find one interview or comment Margareta gave during that time when she bashed her nephew publicly. This doesn't fall entirely to Margareta. She has Elena to consider as the boy's mother and she has Nicholas to consider too. If she's required to make an effort, so is he. And the first step in that is for him to apologise for his behaviour thus far and to stop sewing discontent in the press. Something Margareta cannot be accused of doing.

You are right, the example and purpose of monarchy is part of its mystique, and precisely for that reason, the Custodian must strongly consider a different course of action with regards to Nicholas, as long as he is the only viable option post her, in Romania.

But everybody seems to be overlooking that Nicholas won't follow Margareta. He'll follow Elena. If what people claim is true and Margareta and Radu are demonising him, what's the big deal? His mother won't. Let Elena be the one to bring him back to the fold. Then again, he hasn't exactly kept her off his radar either. What sort of man attacks his mother publicly because she's respecting her father's wishes? Nicholas has issues. Before anything can be resolved, he has to stop playing the martyr and accept his part in all of this. A start would be to resolve the paternity issue and to make a formal public apology to his family.

[tommy100]

I think the hardest part for people to swallow is that the decision was made without consultation with Nicholas and seemed to actively go behind his back before announcing it. Radu was part of the meeting that went on (without Nicholas' knowledge) that decided to revoke his titles and status.
Yes Nicholas may have done wrong, no doubt about that in some ways, but Margarita and Radu look cold and distant for not playing mediators between Nicholas and the King. They look cold for appearing to warmly embrace him, calling him their spiritual son when it suits but letting him get dropped without a flicker of concern later on. Or so it appears.