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Old 03-11-2017, 08:13 AM
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Smoking is bad and unhealthy, that's a given, but I am always a bit baflfed that this bad habit is always considered as a mortal sin or whatever.
I know..I've never smoked in my life...and I get tired of people harping about those who smoke. Live and let live.


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Old 03-11-2017, 08:16 AM
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I certainly agree with live and let live. I have many bad habits but it's just when you see a princess standing on a street corner with a cigarette in her hand, it shatters the image. Like I said, it makes her look common.
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I know..I've never smoked in my life...and I get tired of people harping about those who smoke. Live and let live.


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I don't smoke either and I am against smoking, but there are worse vices and it gets tiresome reading everytime there's a pic with a cigarette how bad it is,etc. I got that, the universe knows.
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Chris looks his usual scruffy self, overweight and if he had one or too glasses too many, the ciggie only adds to that. I'm sure Madeleine has hardly ever stopped smoking, maybe during pregnancy. We all know what cigarettes do to people's looks, there is a good example in the family, Aunt Birgitta.
I always thought Chris looked scruffy and unkempt even on their wedding day - he lacks polish or anything and frankly comes across common.
Id say the only time (if even) that Madeleine gave up smoking was when she was pregnant but even then some woman don't completely.
I do feel for them they seem to get papped quite a bit in their life in London something i thought they didn't want - is this swedish paps or english ones?
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Old 03-11-2017, 08:39 AM
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I certainly agree with live and let live. I have many bad habits but it's just when you see a princess standing on a street corner with a cigarette in her hand, it shatters the image. Like I said, it makes her look common.

She's no different than any other person. Don't you get that yet? We are all common...it's man made class systems that are ridiculous. Tons of smokers in the world. Smoking doesn't make one common...there's no such thing.

She's a human being, period.


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Old 03-11-2017, 08:42 AM
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1. What date was the last pics of them both in some "tender" interaction (holding hands f.i.)?
2. I have the feeling that people are tolerant with smokers but not with overweight persons, particularly when they are females.....
3. I find it quite impolite/bad behaviour to yawn infront of another person without covering your mouth even (or particularly!) If it's "only" your wife.....
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:47 AM
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Really? I suppose he's not allowed to scratch or fart in front of her either...might offend her delicate sensibilities.

As far as the overweight thing goes...can't even remember how many times people here have commented about Chris's weight. Seems like there's equal opportunity criticism of weight here.

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Old 03-11-2017, 10:10 AM
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Really? I suppose he's not allowed to scratch or fart in front of her either...might offend her delicate sensibilities.

As far as the overweight thing goes...can't even remember how many times people here have commented about Chris's weight. Seems like there's equal opportunity criticism of weight here.

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Chris is not obese, probably just slightly overweight using the BMI measure. In fact, he matches the body type of most middle-aged men in the United States or the United Kingdom, both of which are not particularly known for having a slim and fit adult population. Yes, he looks bloated in the pictures, but the thick winter jacket he was wearing didn't help in that respect.
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Old 03-11-2017, 08:11 PM
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I know..I've never smoked in my life...and I get tired of people harping about those who smoke. Live and let live.


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I don't smoke either and I am against smoking, but there are worse vices and it gets tiresome reading everytime there's a pic with a cigarette how bad it is,etc. I got that, the universe knows.
Having been a heavy smoker in my younger days, I promised myself that should I manage to kick the habit I would not become one of those awful, strident, born-again non-smokers.

I did manage and my home has some very lovely crystal ashtrays. Mostly I use them for keys but, should a guest be a smoker, I would never ask them to step outside to smoke, especially during winter. Air conditioning filters the air and there are all sorts of candles, infusers, etc. to take care of a short-term problem.

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I certainly agree with live and let live. I have many bad habits but it's just when you see a princess standing on a street corner with a cigarette in her hand, it shatters the image. Like I said, it makes her look common.
Oh yes, my mother always said that a woman on the street with a cigarette in her hand looked just plain common. So I find myself relating an incident that occurred here in Christchurch NZ when smoking in the workplace became (very stridently) legally taboo.

A visiting international businessman remarked to my brother in the city that we had the best dressed streetwalkers he'd every seen. Bro looked around, the penny dropped and he informed his guest that rather than ladies of the night, they were office workers of all levels nipping out for a cigarette on the footpath!

I guess how we see people from different milieu is all part of our upbringing and our personal bias.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:55 PM
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I'm less concerned about the smoking (I never have but I grew up around smokers) but more with their faces and "body language" in the first set. My thought was that here is a couple who aren't particularly pleased to be there with each other. They look bored.
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Old 03-11-2017, 10:12 PM
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Smoking is bad and unhealthy, that's a given, but I am always a bit baflfed that this bad habit is always considered as a mortal sin or whatever.
Well, I think it's a 'mortal sin' if you do it in public in close proximity to other people. They shouldn't be forced to breathe second-hand smoke, just because someone selfish wants their nicotine fix.

Also, as corny as it sounds, you got to think of the children. C&M should only continue with their vice if they're comfortable with their kids taking up smoking, too.

Teens whose parents were current smokers and addicted to nicotine were 10 times more likely to themselves become regular smokers at an early age or to experiment early on with cigarettes than kids with nonsmoking parents.

The longer parents smoke, the more likely their kids will, too: study | Reuters

So yes, people are free to have their bad habits, as long as they're legal. But when these bad habits impact other people things aren't so cut and dry.
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Old 03-11-2017, 10:54 PM
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She's no different than any other person. Don't you get that yet? We are all common...it's man made class systems that are ridiculous. Tons of smokers in the world. Smoking doesn't make one common...there's no such thing.She's a human being, period.
Have to agree. Nothing about smoking seems 'common' per se. Maybe not smart? maybe weak? (as a couple of friends lament). I can go with that, but we all have our little vices to smooth the way. Plus if one of them becomes a non-smoker it becomes hard as a couple in the house. Has to be both or one will slip, and maybe that's what's happening in the picture. Never know. She might be keeping him company.

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1. What date was the last pics of them both in some "tender" interaction (holding hands f.i.)?
Why would we want to see them doing that? Just wondering. They know the paps are around, why give them the satisfaction, even were they inclined at their stage of the game. JMO.

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I'm less concerned about the smoking (I never have but I grew up around smokers) but more with their faces and "body language" in the first set. My thought was that here is a couple who aren't particularly pleased to be there with each other. They look bored.
Interesting, I saw a real moment between them in the first two-three pictures, especially the first and second one. Very sweet (in my book) how he was absorbed in what she was saying. (I scented the look of love). After the first two-three pictures it looks like they got wind of the photographer and started to disengage, always with an awareness of the photographer. Maybe not but that's what I 'see'.
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I find it strange I have been thinking about smoking and realize no one I know smokes anymore. You don't see people smoking anymore it's just not done.
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Old 03-12-2017, 01:31 AM
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Well, I think it's a 'mortal sin' if you do it in public in close proximity to other people. They shouldn't be forced to breathe second-hand smoke, just because someone selfish wants their nicotine fix.

Also, as corny as it sounds, you got to think of the children. C&M should only continue with their vice if they're comfortable with their kids taking up smoking, too.

Teens whose parents were current smokers and addicted to nicotine were 10 times more likely to themselves become regular smokers at an early age or to experiment early on with cigarettes than kids with nonsmoking parents.

The longer parents smoke, the more likely their kids will, too: study | Reuters

So yes, people are free to have their bad habits, as long as they're legal. But when these bad habits impact other people things aren't so cut and dry.
Exactly. They are bad examples to their children, its not that you smoke outside and after that all is gone. They smell of cigarettes etc and maybe they only smoked outside because the restaurant did not allow it inside, and they smoke at home inside all the time, exposing their children.
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Interesting, I saw a real moment between them in the first two-three pictures, especially the first and second one. Very sweet (in my book) how he was absorbed in what she was saying. (I scented the look of love). After the first two-three pictures it looks like they got wind of the photographer and started to disengage, always with an awareness of the photographer. Maybe not but that's what I 'see'.
Must be annoying to not even be able to grab a little bite to eat without people make photos of you, and then half the world commenting on it
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Old 03-12-2017, 06:54 AM
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I find it strange I have been thinking about smoking and realize no one I know smokes anymore. You don't see people smoking anymore it's just not done.
Smoking has been declining in the US, but it is still very common in Europe. Even worse, many European countries do not have (or do not enforce ?) smoking bans in public spaces. It is really awful: you may be sitting in a café outside (or, in Eastern Europe, even inside) and someone starts blowing deadly second-hand smoke in your face.
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Old 03-12-2017, 09:05 AM
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I find it strange I have been thinking about smoking and realize no one I know smokes anymore. You don't see people smoking anymore it's just not done.

You must live in some sort of Utopia then. People smoke all over the world. I've never been anywhere in the US where you don't find smokers.

Pretty sure Europe has it share of real live people that smoke too, other than Chris and Maddie.

I'd say it's still very much 'done'. Even if you don't know anyone doing it.


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Old 03-12-2017, 09:11 AM
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Exactly. They are bad examples to their children, its not that you smoke outside and after that all is gone. They smell of cigarettes etc and maybe they only smoked outside because the restaurant did not allow it inside, and they smoke at home inside all the time, exposing their children.

Lots of parents are 'bad examples' or do things others consider 'bad'. I'm not so sure very many of us could stand the public scrutiny either.

If the worse thing Chris and Maddie ever do as parents is smoke, those kids are coming out ahead of the game.


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You must live in some sort of Utopia then. People smoke all over the world. I've never been anywhere in the US where you don't find smokers.



Pretty sure Europe has it share of real live people that smoke too, other than Chris and Maddie.



I'd say it's still very much 'done'. Even if you don't know anyone doing it.





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What can I say I can't remember the last time I saw anyone smoking its band from almost everywhere so guess I do live in some sort of Utopia. Anyway this is way off topic
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