State Visit from Belgium to Denmark: March 28-30, 2017

[Nordic]

Didn't Queen Margrethe say in the interview to the Belgian TV that Prince Henrik would take part in the State Visit ? Do you think he and the Queen may have had an argument about that afterwards ?

I don't know what she has said.

This was confirmed today by the Lord Chamberlain at a press meeting re the State Visit. PH is not mentioned in the press programme for the State Visit which was released at the meeting.

Mentioned here under "Forste statsbesog uden prins Henrik"
Prinsesse Benedikte aflyser alle officielle opgaver | BILLED-BLADET

 

[Mbruno]

Edited post again, sorry.

See Marengo's post above about what the Queen had said.

I find it odd that the Queen would mention Prince Henrik's attendance when he was not included in the official program. Hence my suspicion that Henrik was originally expected to attend, but had another of his famous "temper tantrums" afterwards. Of course, that is just speculation on my part.

 

[maria-olivia]

The late Prince Richard of SWB did not like Prince Henrik wearing such a lot of decorations . I read yesterday that their relationship was warm. Maybe he is too sad !

 

[Marengo]

that is what she said indeed, around minute 3:45: 'he will be there for the visit'.



I suppose he has still two weeks to hange his mind, if he has a tantrum indeed.

I thought the official policy of the court was not to add Hendrik to the guest list in advance. If he does come: all the better. If he does not: no harm done. In this case it is likely that there was some miscommunication.

Another option is that he will meet the king and queen privately of course.

 

[Hannelore]

To get into the mood, here's a look back at the Danish state visit to Belgium, when king Albert II received queen Margrethe II, in 2002.

Queen Mathilde: Flashback: Danish state visit

 

[maria-olivia]

Queen Mathilde does not have the Order of the Olifant and King Philippe has the Order but not the Collar.
I suppose they will receive their Danish Decorations at their arrival and will wear them at the First Gala Evening.
I don't know if Crown Princess Mary will receive the Belgian Order of Leopold ?

 

[Mbruno]

To get into the mood, here's a look back at the Danish state visit to Belgium, when king Albert II received queen Margrethe II, in 2002.

Queen Mathilde: Flashback: Danish state visit

Back then, it appears that there were actually two tiara events during the State Visit. Queen Paola wore the Nine Provinces at the white-tie banquet and the Art Deco bandeau at the black-tie dinner.

 

[GömdNatt]

Queen Mathilde does not have the Order of the Olifant and King Philippe has the Order but not the Collar.
I suppose they will receive their Danish Decorations at their arrival and will wear them at the First Gala Evening.
I don't know if Crown Princess Mary will receive the Belgian Order of Leopold ?

Philippe should receive the Collar, and Mathilde should receive the Order of the Elephant now. As for Mary and Marie, should Belgium follow it's usual procotol, they will receive the Order of the Crown (if Marie receives anything).

 

[Al_bina]

... [snipped] The interviewer also asked to look to the future and what her opinions about abdications like in Belgium, the Vatican, The Netherlands and Spain was. She replied that each coutnry has their own traditions in this matter. In this country you stay as long as you live. That is how her father did it and what she intends to do. ...[snipped]

Thanks for summarising the interview!
I do not understand questions about a possible abdication though.

 

[mybags]

Philippe should receive the Collar, and Mathilde should receive the Order of the Elephant now. As for Mary and Marie, should Belgium follow it's usual procotol, they will receive the Order of the Crown (if Marie receives anything).

There is only one class of the Order of the Elephant. Everyone who receives the order, automatically receives the collar. The collar of the order can only be worn on certain days of the year.

 

[polyesco]

from the DRF calendar

Tuesday March 28th
State Visit from Belgium
King Philippe and Queen Mathilde arrive at the Vilhelm Lauritzens Terminal at Copenhagen Airport

Official receipt of King Philippe and Queen Mathilde at Amalienborg

The Crown Prince Couple participates with King Philippe and Queen Mathilde in cruise in Copenhagen Harbor

H.M. The Queen will host a gala dinner in honor of The King and Queen of Belgium


Wednesday On 29 March
State Visit from Belgium

HRH Crown Prince visits together H.M. King Philippe Copenhagen City Hall

HRH Crown Prince visits with H.M. King Philippe Danish Industry

HRH The Crown Princess visits with H.M. Queen Mathilde Amager Common School

HRH Crown Prince visits with H.M. King Philippe State of Green

HRH The Crown Princess visits with H.M. Queen Mathilde UN City

HRH Crown Prince participates with H.M. King Philippe in High-Level lunch

HRH Crown Princess will host a working lunch attended by H.M. queen Mathilde

HRH Crown Prince visits with H.M. King Philippe Net Denmark

The Crown Prince Couple visits with H.M. King Philippe and Queen Mathilde Cinematheque

H.M. King Philippe and Queen Mathilde hold return event at the Black Diamond
H.M. Queen, Crown Prince Couple, D.K.H. Prince Joachim and Princess Marie and H. H. Princess Elisabeth participant

 

[Mbruno]

Any details on the type of return event and the dress code ?

 

[Alisa]

Thank you polyesco for the detailed visit. It is interesting to see that the Crown Princely couple are handling the majority of the visit.

 

[maria-olivia]

Two tiaras Events ?the Attendance of Princess Elisabeth and not Count Ingolf?.

 

[Terri Terri]

OK. Has there been a change in the arrival part of state visits? The state visits of Iceland's and now Belgium's heads of state no longer include the entire DRF greeting the visiting heads at the airport. That is very apparent this year.
Also, is this the first time that Prince Henrik misses a state visit?

 

[maria-olivia]

Because the Consort is Queen !

 

[Nordic]

Thank you polyesco for the detailed visit. It is interesting to see that the Crown Princely couple are handling the majority of the visit.

The Crown Prince couple have handled the majority of the State Visits for the past 8 years now.

OK. Has there been a change in the arrival part of state visits? The state visits of Iceland's and now Belgium's heads of state no longer include the entire DRF greeting the visiting heads at the airport. That is very apparent this year.

There is an official greeting at the airport attended by Queen M, the Crown Prince couple and Joachim&Marie. It's mentioned in the press programme.

 

[Countessmeout]

I think it's likely a mix of things.

Henrik has retired for the most part. Which means Marge is flying solo. Many of these events call for a couple. The couples pair up for events. Marge could accompany Philippe as the monarch, or his wife but not both.

Technically Fred could simply fill in, but I think age may be the other factor. Fred and Mary are the same age group as the Belgiahs. And until recently were both heirs. It likely makes as much sense to have Mary hits Mathilde for events, then Marge.


As for Ignof, he may be in attendance at the banquet. Unlike his sister, he is not always included in the family list. He is given precedence at events usually just behind her, but he is often on the main guest list and not the family section.

 

[Nordic]

I think it's likely a mix of things.

Henrik has retired for the most part. Which means Marge is flying solo. Many of these events call for a couple. The couples pair up for events. Marge could accompany Philippe as the monarch, or his wife but not both.

Technically Fred could simply fill in, but I think age may be the other factor. Fred and Mary are the same age group as the Belgiahs. And until recently were both heirs. It likely makes as much sense to have Mary hits Mathilde for events, then Marge.

As I said, the CPC have handled most parts of the State Visits since the Greek State Visit in 2009. Regardless of the age group or who the visitors have been. Prince Henrik "retired" a year ago.

 

[ricarda]

Frederik and Mary have handled the majority of all incoming state visits since 2009. The reason given back then was the age and bad health of the Regent Couple. It has nothing to do with Henrik's retirement (the retirement has to do with age and bad health though).

OK. Has there been a change in the arrival part of state visits? The state visits of Iceland's and now Belgium's heads of state no longer include the entire DRF greeting the visiting heads at the airport. That is very apparent this year.

The President of Iceland and his wife arrived a day earlier and had already spent the night in Copenhagen before the state visit started. That's the reason why there was no reception at the airport.

According to the press programme the Belgian King and Queen will be received at the airport.

 

[Stefan]

Prince Henrik "retired" a year ago.

But he took part in the State Visit from Iceland. And also in the uncoming State Visit's last year

 

[Nordic]

But he took part in the State Visit from Iceland. And also in the uncoming State Visit's last year

He did. There was a thought that Prince Henrik's retirement might be the reason for "Fred"/The Crown Prince couple to "fill in", which it isn't, because the CPC have handled most things in connection with the State Visits since 2009, long before the retirement.

 

[maria-olivia]

He accepted Silvia and Sonja as Queen Consorts but he was younger !!!
He never accept in the past that his Son was the number 2.
His non attendance at the Queen's Birthday Banquet for some ilness but was seen on holiday.
Now he said to the press that Maxima was Consort and Queen...
Now his retirement , he attended because it was Mrs x , wife of the President but it is unfair not to be there for TH the King and the Queen of the Belgians's State Visit to his Country.

 

[Muhler]

Yeah, I guess it can be seen as a snub on the Belgian Regent Couple. But then, having PH entertaining (read: embarrassing) the party about him not being king, it's perhaps better he stays in the background.

 

[Roskilde]

The Crown Prince couple have handled the majority of the State Visits for the past 8 years now.

As I said, the CPC have handled most parts of the State Visits since the Greek State Visit in 2009. Regardless of the age group or who the visitors have been.

Frederik and Mary have handled the majority of all incoming state visits since 2009. The reason given back then was the age and bad health of the Regent Couple. It has nothing to do with Henrik's retirement (the retirement has to do with age and bad health though).

Thank you Nordic and Ricarda to give good information about how Crown Prince Frederik and Crown Princess Mary have been responsible for the vast majority of all the incoming state visits over the last many years. One can say that it's the Queen who is the official host, but the 'actual hosts' are Frederik and Mary.

Something that there could and should be much better focus on. Also in the Danish press. At the Icelandic state visit two months ago not even the DRF official Facebook posted any (if only very few) pictures from all Frederik and Mary's many official program events with the Icelandic President couple. Let's hope they do this time.

 

[Muhler]

Stand by for tomorrow when DR1 will send live from 19.05 (DK summertime) of the guests and royals arriving for the gala dinner at Christianborg.

The guests will walk past the cameras and photographers who will have lined up in the Drabant Hall. - So loads of photos coming!

Since DR1 is a public service channel, there are good chances you should be able to watch outside DK.

Otherwise check BB's site to see if they have some live coverage as well.

I'm sure kind people will post the links here.

As a guidance: The clock is 16.15 DK time as this is posted.

I intend to be around for commenting tomorrow.

 

[polyesco]

Here is the complete official program for the state visit

Program for statsbesøg fra Belgien | Kongehuset

Some notes on Day 1 tomorrow, At the arrival at the airport, the Queen, Crown Prince Couple and Prince Joachim and Princess Marie will be present. and at the arrival at Amalienborg there will be official photography of the Belgium royal couple and the Danish royal family.

The cruise in Copenhagen Harbor, by the Belgium royal couple and Frederik and Mary will include focus on renewable energy.

 

[Nordic]

Program for statsbesøg fra Belgien | Kongehuset

Some notes on Day 1 tomorrow, At the arrival at the airport, the Queen, Crown Prince Couple and Prince Joachim and Princess Marie will be present. and at the arrival at Amalienborg there will be official photography of the Belgium royal couple and the Danish royal family.

There's an English version available

Programme for state visit from Belgium | The Danish Monarchy - Front Page

There's also a carriage ride with the guests, Queen M and the Crown Prince couple.

 

[ROYAL NORWAY]

Stand by for tomorrow when DR1 will send live from 19.05 (DK summertime) of the guests and royals arriving for the gala dinner at Christianborg.

The guests will walk past the cameras and photographers who will have lined up in the Drabant Hall. - So loads of photos coming!

Since DR1 is a public service channel, there are good chances you should be able to watch outside DK.

Otherwise check BB's site to see if they have some live coverage as well.

I'm sure kind people will post the links here.

As a guidance: The clock is 16.15 DK time as this is posted.

I intend to be around for commenting tomorrow.

Large TV coverage:

DR1: From 19:05 to 19:55 and from 21:55 to 22:30

TV 2: From 20:50 to 22:00. (Not available for many outside Denmark, Norway and Sweden.)

I'm in Norway tomorrow, so I have access to TV 2 (which is the Danish channel I prefer when it comes to royal coverage)

 

[polyesco]

"Earlier in the day there was rehearsal of tomorrow's carriage ride where H.M. King Philippe and Queen Mathilde of Belgium, H.M. The Queen and the Crown Prince and Princess at 11.00 will be escorted by carriage of Gardehussarregimentets horse squadron to Christian VII's Palace, Amalienborg."

https://www.instagram.com/p/BSJbmwGjArz/?taken-by=detdanskekongehus

the carriage ride with the Crown Prince Couple is something new right?