General Questions and Information about the Danish Royal Family - Page 2

Jo of Palatine · #21 10-12-2006, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyK

To me, I can't imagine Mary calling Frederik "His Royal Highness" or "Crown Prince," at least not when they are alone. They are so close and in love, and calling him HRH seems so stilted and formal.

You're right, of course. I was refering to a situation where the princess talks about her husband in public. So if the media eg asked a question about them both, she could be replying: "Well, the Crown Prince and I..." Or "His Royal Highness and I think...." or "Prince Frederick and I...". But of course she would never call him HRH in private - except maybe as a private joke, but that's their private life so I don't want to know about that.

K Goldberg · #22 04-27-2007, 08:41 AM

Does anyone know which among the royalty "enjoy the pleasures of the briar," so to speak - i.e. pipe smokers? How about Crown Prince Frederik or his brother, Prince Joachim? I've read they smoke, and their Mom is - or was - famous for her smoking. Any others? I mention these two guys - one reason being I've read a higher percentage of Danish males are pipe smokers than men of any other nation. And I'm sure they could afford the very best in smoking articles, were they so inclined.

H.M. Margrethe · #23 04-27-2007, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by K Goldberg

Does anyone know which among the royalty "enjoy the pleasures of the briar," so to speak - i.e. pipe smokers? How about Crown Prince Frederik or his brother, Prince Joachim? I've read they smoke, and their Mom is - or was - famous for her smoking. Any others? I mention these two guys - one reason being I've read a higher percentage of Danish males are pipe smokers than men of any other nation. And I'm sure they could afford the very best in smoking articles, were they so inclined.

I know that Queen Margrethes dad King Frederik 9. lovede his pipe and that he had alot of them...I think that you can see the pipes if you wear going to make a trip to the Amalienborg museum in Copenhagen if you was going to take a holliday her in Denmark.

CP Frederik and Prince Joachim don´t youse pips but cigaretts...i really don´t know how mutch CP Frederik is smoking cigarrets after he marriede CP Mary...I still think that Prince Joachim is adictied to his cigarrets sadliy for his and his sons health

PeoplesPrincess · #24 12-17-2008, 04:37 PM

I just read in a book about immigration that the only way to be considered a citizen of Denmark is to be born to a Danish mother. According to the book, there are second and third generation residents of Denmark who are not technically citizens. Is this true and what is the citizenship status of C & I? What about Mary?

jinigirl · #25 12-17-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PeoplesPrincess

I just read in a book about immigration that the only way to be considered a citizen of Denmark is to be born to a Danish mother. According to the book, there are second and third generation residents of Denmark who are not technically citizens. Is this true and what is the citizenship status of C & I? What about Mary?

and what is than the status of Queen Margrethe, her mother was danish, and her paternal grandmother was german.....

sgl · #26 12-17-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PeoplesPrincess

I just read in a book about immigration that the only way to be considered a citizen of Denmark is to be born to a Danish mother. According to the book, there are second and third generation residents of Denmark who are not technically citizens. Is this true and what is the citizenship status of C & I? What about Mary?

Wow! That is a unique citizenship requirement. I always assumed that if one was born there, they were an automatic citizen. I believe that Mary was granted Danish citizenship upon her marriage to Frederik. Perhaps one of our Danish members could shed some light?

norwegianne · #27 12-17-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PeoplesPrincess

I just read in a book about immigration that the only way to be considered a citizen of Denmark is to be born to a Danish mother. According to the book, there are second and third generation residents of Denmark who are not technically citizens. Is this true and what is the citizenship status of C & I? What about Mary?

Do you have the title of the book?

As far as I know, there are five ways to become a Danish citizen.
1. At birth - if either parent is a Dane, and they are married. (Hence, Isabella and Christian would be Danes regardless of Mary's citizenship status, by virtue of Frederik). If parents aren't married, then the child gets automatic citizenship if the mother is Danish. (If the other way around, the child gets automatic citizenship only if it is born in Denmark; if born abroad, it has to apply for the citizenship).

2. When unmarried parents marry - if the child born to unwed parents haven't received a citizenship at birth, it will do so when they marry.

3. Adoption.

4. Citizenship by declaration. (Especially for other Nordic citizens.)

5. Applying for it through naturalization. This is what was done for Alexandra of Berleburg and Nathalie of Berleburg. And also for Henrik, Mary, Alexandra and Marie. Though, with the latter four, they probably went a bit outside the regular channels to get the process sped up so it was valid at the wedding, whereas with the Berleburgs, Prince Richard and Princess Benedikte was said to insist that they shouldn't "jump in line" because they were related to the Queen.

Thus, all the members of the Danish royal family, are Danish citizens.

(the regulations, translated from here)

lyndaW · #28 02-10-2009, 09:54 AM

Hypothetically:

To marry into the Danish Royal House you have to give up your birth citizenship......if a divorce should happen and you wish to return to your homeland could you retain your Danish citizenship or would you have to re-apply to get your original citizenship back ??

This question would also be for the other countries that have a Monarchy, such as England and so on

Mandy · #29 02-10-2009, 04:26 PM

Let's focus this discussion on the Danish Royals as it was first intended. If you wish to discuss other royal houses and their citizenship laws, please do so in their specific forums.

Thanks,
Mandy

wiwaxia · #30 02-19-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jinigirl

and what is than the status of Queen Margrethe, her mother was danish, and her paternal grandmother was german.....

Queen Margrethe's mother was Swedish.

Lakshmi · #31 02-20-2009, 12:35 AM

I was just reading though posts about royals and citizenship. So, I understand that Alexandra, Mary and now Marie had to give up their country citizenship. If for some reasons Alexandra decides to go back to Hong Kong would she lose Danish citizenship? Would she be Chinese citizen now, if she goes back? I wonder what her citizenship was when she married Joachim, was she British(Hong Kong belonged to UK till 1997)

I wonder if Danes decide to change the law to allow dual citizenship, would be it retroactive and how it would affect mentioned ladies...

Tricota · #32 02-20-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lakshmi

I was just reading though posts about royals and citizenship. So, I understand that Alexandra, Mary and now Marie had to give up their country citizenship. If for some reasons Alexandra decides to go back to Hong Kong would she lose Danish citizenship? Would she be Chinese citizen now, if she goes back? I wonder what her citizenship was when she married Joachim, was she British(Honk Kong belonged to UK till 1997)

I wonder if Danes decide to change the law to allow dual citizenship, would be it radioactive and how it would affect mentioned ladies...

Well, first of all, a change in law, is highly unlikely, as the majority for it is overwelming, as seen as late as this week. Even to let left of the political scale, there is a sence that, you are either Danish, or you are not.

Secondly, yes the princeses had to give up the citizenship, when they married. As a result of that, they are now Danish. And that is it. And unless they actively try to change that, and that might be more of a case for Alexandra (though I doubt she ever would), that remains. Now she can of cause change that again, if she wanted to, and to through the propper forms and regulations. I am not sure what that would mean for her rights as semi royal or for the appanage.

I do not believe that Mary and Marie could do the same though, as they are still married to the Princes.

Mandy · #33 02-20-2009, 07:13 PM

Several posts unrelated to the Danish Royals have been moved/copied to a newly created Questions About Danish Citizenship thread in the Members' Corner Forum. Please let's keep this thread on topic.

Thanks!
Mandy

Lilla · #34 02-20-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lakshmi

I was just reading though posts about royals and citizenship. So, I understand that Alexandra, Mary and now Marie had to give up their country citizenship. If for some reasons Alexandra decides to go back to Hong Kong would she lose Danish citizenship?

No Lakshmi, Alexandra would not lose her Danish citizenship. Danish citizen who settle down in another country does not automatically lose their Danish citizenship. Not even if becomming citizen of that new country. They can maintaine their Danish citizenship. Their grandchildren won't automatically become Danish citizens though.

Alexandra will only lose her Danish citizenship if it is a condition in Hong Kong for her to give up her Danish citizenship in order to be listed in a naturalisation bill there.

And PeoplesPrincess, to answer your question in the post opening this thread you can read this link (it is in english):

http://www.nyidanmark.dk/en-us/citiz...h_national.htm

rigsgreve sponneck · #35 06-14-2010, 12:31 PM

If a Count marries a non-Countess, they then divorce, ex-wife keeps noble surname and title, she then re-marries and double-barrels the noble name with the husbands name (retaining part noble surname)...does she retain the title of Countess? A sequence of events that intrigues me...any ideas??????????

Lumutqueen · #36 06-14-2010, 12:41 PM

When she has remarried she should not keep her title, nor should she keep her noble surname either. IMO.

rigsgreve sponneck · #37 06-14-2010, 12:50 PM

Thank you for the reply. So, to clarify, upon divorce she can retain the surname and title but beyond that, if she remarries to a lower rank there is no way (whether it be by double-barrell etc) she can retain the title/or surname?

Lumutqueen · #38 06-14-2010, 12:54 PM

I think she should lose the title, and I do not thinks she would have any reason to use the surname of her ex-husband when she has re-married.

rigsgreve sponneck · #39 06-14-2010, 04:36 PM

Many thanks for the information...if anybody else has any other information to add regarding this topic please do, it would be most appreciated.

Hereditary Thane · #40 06-14-2010, 10:01 PM

Nobiliary rules are not as strict as they once were; anyway why would a woman want to incorporate her divorced husband's surname (noble or not) when she remarries should be the question. There are some exceptions, I have known two countesses by marriage who's husbands requested that they keep their titles upon remarriage after widowhood. This follows a very ancient tradition.