Alexandra, Countess of Frederiksborg, Current Events Part 1: September 2015 -

[tommy100]

What a mess indeed. He is clearly not a very pleasant man. At least, even if she can't get the money from him, Alexandra can make sure he looses one important thing - his reputation. And at least others will be wary of him now.
He'll live a life of renting everything and claiming to have no money for ever.

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by tommy100

What a mess indeed. He is clearly not a very pleasant man. At least, even if she can't get the money from him, Alexandra can make sure he looses one important thing - his reputation. And at least others will be wary of him now.
He'll live a life of renting everything and claiming to have no money for ever.

I do wonder what the payment for his current lifestyle is?
He lives in what is clearly a good apartment, is careful not to own a car and he is careful to spend all his money each month. So someone is advising him and someone is also somehow transferring some of his money back to him, because I simply cannot imagine Martin Jørgensen buying second hand clothes and sit at home in his spare time watching Disney Channel.
He is spending money, and that must be public knowledge, because there is a reason why Alexandra has send her lawyers out to get him.

There must be a price for this.
Of course Martin Jørgensen may actually have found a very good friend who is willing to help without getting anything in return, (yes, I believe in the Tooth Fairy as well) but it's a tightrope! The tax service/IRS may become interested in Martin Jørgensen as well and they can be much more nasty than Alexandra's layers! They may also start to get interested in Martin Jørgensen's friends.

So perhaps Martin Jørgensen's current job and lifestyle is coming to an end - for now. Until he has found a new way to hustle.

[lookupdown]

Was he successful before their marriage? I wonder what attracted her to him because looking at pictures and videos of him during their marriage, he seemed questionable.

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by lookupdown

Was he successful before their marriage? I wonder what attracted her to him because looking at pictures and videos of him during their marriage, he seemed questionable.

In hindsight that's an open question.

He was a photographer working for his dad's production company. And while his dad is reasonably well off, that's my impression, he is by no means rich.
So I doubt Martin Jørgensen (MJ) was swimming in money or even lived anything remotely resembling a jetset life.

I do wonder, also in hindsight, whether MJ was leeching of his dad. In the sense of having a job and a steady income, without doing much work.
He certainly ended up leeching of Alexandra and as far as I can work out, he didn't do much work after marrying her. Mainly living off "investments" = Alexandra's money.
Whether MJ was always a leech, or whether he developed that habit after marrying Alexandra is also an open question.

As for what she saw in MJ, I will not presume to suggest what she saw in him, only remark that middle aged - and vulnerable - women can be just as blinded by love and/or physical allure as any man.

[Prinsara]

Alexandra most surely deserved better, but I think I feel even sorrier for Felix and Nikolai. This guy was their stepfather! And kids have no say in any of that.

[maria-olivia]

Did Countess Alexandra divorce because she met him ?

[Duc_et_Pair]

Well, on paper anyone can look poor. Do not ask me how. In my country Princess Margarita de Bourbon de Parme, daughter of a millionaire princess, a jewelry designer by profession and married with a heir to the wealthiest family of the Netherlands had "no any money and no any fortune" when her first husband sued her to receive monthly alimentation to finance his lifestyle. Somehow the princess miraculously did succeed in convincing the Court she could really, really not pay any money.

The same with Tessy Antony: she did demand a vast sum from her ex-husband Prince Félix of Luxembourg but somehow the Prince managed to show he was was really as poor as a church mouse and all was paid for him by the Bank of Papa, so to speak.

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Prinsara

Alexandra most surely deserved better, but I think I feel even sorrier for Felix and Nikolai. This guy was their stepfather! And kids have no say in any of that.

Indeed, it was a betrayal of trust for the children as well.

Nikolai, and perhaps even more Felix, were obviously very fond of MJ and he was, I'm absolutely sure, very fond of them.
In many ways he must have been a kind of step-older brother, step-uncle, step dad-dad all in one for the children. Especially for Felix, I believe. After all MJ was there on a day to day basis, while they probably only saw Joachim in the weekends.

[lookupdown]

Originally Posted by Muhler

In hindsight that's an open question.

He was a photographer working for his dad's production company. And while his dad is reasonably well off, that's my impression, he is by no means rich.
So I doubt Martin Jørgensen (MJ) was swimming in money or even lived anything remotely resembling a jetset life.

I do wonder, also in hindsight, whether MJ was leeching of his dad. In the sense of having a job and a steady income, without doing much work.
He certainly ended up leeching of Alexandra and as far as I can work out, he didn't do much work after marrying her. Mainly living off "investments" = Alexandra's money.
Whether MJ was always a leech, or whether he developed that habit after marrying Alexandra is also an open question.

As for what she saw in MJ, I will not presume to suggest what she saw in him, only remark that middle aged - and vulnerable - women can be just as blinded by love and/or physical allure as any man.

Thank you for the information. I hope she gets her money (with interest) back after the pain and embarrassment he has caused her.

[maria-olivia]

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair

Well, on paper anyone can look poor. Do not ask me how. In my country Princess Margarita de Bourbon de Parme, daughter of a millionaire princess, a jewelry designer by profession and married with a heir to the wealthiest family of the Netherlands had "no any money and no any fortune" when her first husband sued her to receive monthly alimentation to finance his lifestyle. Somehow the princess miraculously did succeed in convincing the Court she could really, really not pay any money.

The same with Tessy Antony: she did demand a vast sum from her ex-husband Prince Félix of Luxembourg but somehow the Prince managed to show he was was really as poor as a church mouse and all was paid for him by the Bank of Papa, so to speak.

I did not know that Princess Irene was millionaire such as Tjalling ten Cate.
I know Princess Caroline married Albert Brenninkmeyer a millonnaire.
Tessy married Prince Louis.

[Muhler]

A few more details:
https://www.bt.dk/royale/martin-joer...inde-alexandra

https://ekstrabladet.dk/underholdnin...ynasti/9599193

Martin Jørgensen (MJ) has not paid a single DKK to Alexandra since he signed an IOU seven years ago, to pay off as much as he was able to.
Hence the reason Alexandra went to court.

However, the court appearance appears to have consequences for MJ, he has (been) resigned from a very well paid job at Rekom, the bar chain.
Rekom will not comment as this is a about an employee.

That means MJ now has no income - and since he rented his flat by Rekom, presumably soon no place to live either.

But how can he get away with not paying anything at all to Alexandra?
It's a simple and relatively often used ploy, experts say: You simply spend your entire salary each time you get paid.
The Court of the Bailiff cannot demand of someone that you rearrange your economy in order to pay off a debt, so a common solution for people who will not pay off their debt is the one outline above.

And as MJ has has his well paid job for a couple of years and he has been spending it all, he must have thrown money around all over the place, and naturally Alexandra must have heard about that. - Quite a provocation, I'd say!

The ironic thing is that had MJ done his best to pay off his debt by paying say one million DKK, which IMO would have been realistic given his salary, he could very well have been able to reach a settlement with Alexandra reducing his debt considerably.

The other interesting thing is that he has (been) resigned from Rekom.
I do wonder if MJ told his friend, Adam Falbert, who owns Rekom, that he was paying off on his debt to Alexandra?
Another thing is that even though you are very wealthy and own a successful bar chain, being tainted by association with a known/re-exposed/unreformed hustler is perhaps not that desirable.
Not least because Alexandra has friends as well.
And also because the tax-services may take in interest in Rekom, to learn whether the owner has been personally involved in a shady business, that is to help MJ not paying anything to Alexandra.
And finally, many rich people prefer to live a live outside the searchlights of the press.

[Somebody]

Isn't there the option to take money straight from his salary to pay of his debt? Of course, in that case they would need to establish what he needs to live and the rest of it can go straight from emploer to Alexandra in this case.

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Somebody

Isn't there the option to take money straight from his salary to pay of his debt? Of course, in that case they would need to establish what he needs to live and the rest of it can go straight from emploer to Alexandra in this case.

Yes, if you owe money to the state or municipality.

Admittedly I've never been in that situation but I imagine you can appeal the decision of having a part of your salary detracted if you can prove that it makes it impossible for you to live a reasonable life.
Just as a bailiff can't impound your bed, TV, computer, toys for your children, necessary clothes and shoes, basic furnitures, basic kitchen appliances and utensils and so on.

[Archduchess Zelia]

Yes, but you will also have to provide them with a very extensive budget proving that you literally won't be able to pay your bills every month if you must pay off on your debt.

A shame MJ isn't forced to do the same. I wonder how much of his income is spent on bare necessities...

[Muhler]

Not much, I imagine!
Unless we call eating caviar every evening and only wearing your socks and shirts once a necessity.

A salary of 50.000 DKK a month (somewhere in the order of 8.500 $) was pretty high for someone who was used for branding but who only had work experience and training as a photographer, and very limited, if any, education within communication, marketing or PR.
Adam Falbert must have been a very good friend of MJ. (And pretty naïve as well IMO.)

Anyway, here is a quote by Alexandra's press advisor and close friend (She apparently also double's as Alexandra's secretary), Helle von Wildenrath Løvgreen, after the ruling at the bailiff court, in regards to Alexandra getting money back from MJ:
"It doesn't look particularly good, you might say. There is no will/intention. (From MJ to pay back.) He just doesn't want to. When we talk about amounts (rates), it's after all not because he can't - he just doesn't want to."

She added:
"It is this moral compass that is missing. That was what shined through in all other actions. (Things he did.) He simply didn't have it."

[eya]

Countess Alexandra with her sisters, Count Nikolai with Benedikte Thoustrup and Count Felix attended the funeral of the mother of the Countess in Vienna today

https://www.billedbladet.dk/kendte/d...christa-manley
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kendte/d...ndra-efter-det

[polyesco]

video of their attendance, we can see that the Queen had sent a wreath
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kendte/d...-sidste-farvel

The Queen and Joachim/Marie sent wreaths
https://www.seoghoer.dk/kongelige/si...esse-marie-har

[crm2317]

Very sad day for them all. Nikolai looks a bit silly with those large sunglasses on.

[Izzie]

Sad day. In the video you can see Nikolai had no sunglasses on as they enter the church. Both grandsons look emotional. And if Nikolai wants to wear sunglasses as he leaves the service (he looks like he may be teary/crying) that's his prerogative and not for anyone not in his place to judge. Gosh, I hope I didn't look silly the day I buried my grandmother since I also had sunglasses on.

[tihkon2]

Originally Posted by crm2317

Nikolai looks a bit silly with those large sunglasses on.

How charming of you to say so.
Maybe he just wanted to hide his tears from the cameras?