Jazmin Grace Grimaldi (Rotolo) 2 : April 2006 - June 2006

[Elspeth]

Welcome to part II of the thread to discuss Jazmin Grace Grimaldi, daughter of Tamara Rotolo, and her relationship (or lack thereof) to Prince Albert.

Since there's a great deal of speculation associated with this subject, it would be very helpful for people to provide sources for their information, to stay away from outright gossip and speculation, and to state clearly when they're posting an unsupported opinion. It would also be very helpful for people to remember that other posters are entitled to their opinions, however uncongenial they may be, and to restrict their comments to the topic of the thread and not indulge themselves by complaining about the intelligence level, morals, nationality, sanity, or any other characteristic of other posters. If a post complies with our rules and guidelines (check my signature if you need a refresher on the rules), it may be posted here. If a post starts straying into the realms of attacks on other posters, bashing of royals and their associates, or libel of any sort at all, it'll be deleted.

Part 1 can be found here:

[TrustWorthy]

Originally Posted by Elspeth

Welcome to part II of the thread to discuss Jazmin Rotolo/Grimaldi and her relationship (or lack thereof) to Prince Albert.

Since there's a great deal of speculation associated with this subject, it would be very helpful for people to provide sources for their information, to stay away from outright gossip and speculation, and to state clearly when they're posting an unsupported opinion. It would also be very helpful for people to remember that other posters are entitled to their opinions, however uncongenial they may be, and to restrict their comments to the topic of the thread and not indulge themselves by complaining about the intelligence level, morals, nationality, sanity, or any other characteristic of other posters. If a post complies with our rules and guidelines (check my signature if you need a refresher on the rules), it may be posted here. If a post starts straying into the realms of attacks on other posters, bashing of royals and their associates, or libel of any sort at all, it'll be deleted.

Part I can be found here:

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...aldi-7199.html

I think we all agree with you -- Bravo!

[LadyMacAlpine]

TrustWorthy Your comment, "my last contact with the Palace a few weeks ago was I was disgusted by the conversations in this Forum and others" is another hoot. The idea you would even waste your time and money making a call to MC is every reason for self-examination, but for you to think anyone here believes they accepted your call and had an exchange with you, well... (shaking head).

I'm shaking mine at you for what you said. My words were these.

My last contact with the Palace a few weeks ago was I was disgusted by the conversations in this Forum and others. That the poll I requested has shown public opinion Tamara was doing more damage to Albert's reputation with the aide of Bruce McCormick. So yes I know they know of this site.

Where did I say I called? I didn't. You assumed it and in doing so caused another poster to assume it by what you said. This is how rumors start by taking out of context what someone says and using it in another way, adding to it, etc., like what Albert said caused talk of more claims with his saying that he knew there was others. This is also what the press does. Leahteresa and I have talked back and forth like this for sometime and we have communicated with each other in private messages. What I said is a figure of speech and I consider what you said in the other thread as hostile. I'm sorry you don't like my opinions but we are entitled to have them.

[Toledo]

Oops, I just read the above and I think I walked in the middle of something.

All I would like to know is if the mother of the alleged daugther of Prince Albert has done any type of interview or press conference to substantiate her claims. Anyone knows if any report or interview with her has been published either in english magazines or other sources we don't have easy access to. Like in German, French, Italian, Danish etc?

I'm just wondering what are the Rottolos pursuing to validate their claim.

[AplePie]

I don't understand what the big deal is with this whole Jazmin Grimaldi situation, hello, has anyone ever heard of a paternity test?

[Suonymona]

Tamara tried to have a California court force Albert to submit to a paternity test (at that time blood as DNA was not in common use) in 1992. The palace lawyers had the case dismissed for improper jurisdiction.

Tamara has never filed in any other state or country. Now that Albert is Head of State, any case would probably be immediately dismissed under Diplomatic Immunity but when Albert was heir that was not a certainty.

The only articles I ever saw in the USA were in supermarket tabloids. Though I have read articles from European countries that were in more quality publications, most of the content was similar or based on what I had already seen in the US.

To my knowledge, Tamara has never given a direct interview like Nicole did to PM but many "sources close to her" gave comments attributed to her which other writers have continued to use as direct quotes. I have seen this in the rehashed paragraphs discussing her claim in articles about Albert, Nicole, Eric Alexandre and combinations thereof, both in 'quality' sources and places like Wikipedia.

Ann

[TrustWorthy]

I found these and other photos, some larger and of better quality throughtout this forum. Maybe someone with better talents can enlarge or translate the text?

[pama]

On the magazine cover is PA with JGG or It just a cover the one with her wearing jeanes.same clothing with her mother in Paris.I don't know what to make of prince Albert any more. when one is expected to bow to royalty when in their presence to show respect at all time as they out rank us.meaning the diffrence between a commoner and royalty then a queen or king own It to his or her people what every thing means.for them not to wonder .That they are safe from scandel .Great leadership.

[BurberryBrit]

Originally Posted by pama

On the magazine cover is PA with JGG or It just a cover

That cover is a fake! I saw that pic of JR(G) on here in another thread.
They obviously doctored that picture up to make it look like PA is walking in front of her.

I won't speculate on whether or not PA is her father, but when I read the official release from the Palais, I'll believe it.

[Laura Elizabeth]

I agree, the picture on Bunte is photoshopped.

Ms. Rotolo can give her child any patronym she likes, depending upon where she lives, within the United States. Or put another way: just because she put that last name on the birth certificate does not make it her legal last name. But that's a nit for lawyers to pick.

[Laviollette]

I personally think it's appalling that her mother was allowed to put "Grimaldi" as her last name. I don't understand the practice here in the U.S. I actually know someone who had a child by a man who was secretly married and gave a false name, including the last name. After my friend gave birth, he disappeared but she had already put his last name on her son's birth certificate and only found out later that it wasn't even his real name. So the young man has a false name. She didn't change it because that's the name he's had since infancy. :(

[pinklady1991]

Um...is anyone else as befuddled as I am with the fact that all of these magazines are essentially making stuff up and manufacturing photos of PA and he's NOT suing them? Meanwhile, the PM spread was of a private vacation, but those things really did happen... I can see the invasion of privacy to a point (but he did have someone do some PR shots), but I would be much more outraged at the implication of things that may or may not be true.

[mwhite3182]

for the sake of the young girl in the middle of all of this, Jazmin. If the mother's not telling the truth, DNA will tell. I don't see why Prince Albert doesn't do a DNA test to settle it once and for all.

[maryellen1539]

Originally Posted by mwhite3182

for the sake of the young girl in the middle of all of this, Jazmin. If the mother's not telling the truth, DNA will tell. I don't see why Prince Albert doesn't do a DNA test to settle it once and for all.

I think that was what they were doing. But we need to wait for the palace to make an annoucement.

[hsh1969]

Originally Posted by pinklady1991

Um...is anyone else as befuddled as I am with the fact that all of these magazines are essentially making stuff up and manufacturing photos of PA and he's NOT suing them? Meanwhile, the PM spread was of a private vacation, but those things really did happen... I can see the invasion of privacy to a point (but he did have someone do some PR shots), but I would be much more outraged at the implication of things that may or may not be true.

my thoughts exactly, but if they are doind the DNA test and she is not his daughter?.
I would love to be a fly on the wall to hear those conversations.

[pama]

Originally Posted by maryellen1539

I think that was what they were doing. But we need to wait for the palace to make an annoucement.

I think so too

[teense]

Pinky, you really brought up an interesting point...
Why is PA ignoring the magazines that tell about a secret daughter and then taking legal action against a magazine who published photos from a vacation?
Alleging that he has been visiting with a secret daughter is far more serious than pictures from his vacation and saying it was like a honeymoon.....
Why would someone who is not afraid to sue allow such stories about a secret daughter to be continually published?

[Laviollette]

Originally Posted by maryellen1539

I think that was what they were doing. But we need to wait for the palace to make an annoucement.

But do you think the palace would make an official announcement? If they are doing DNA testing and PA is the father (although I find it odd that Jazmin doesn't resemble any of the Kelly's or Grimaldi's due their strong genes), he should provide compensation; $2.5M for back child support (this is calculating what Eric Coste gets per month, $15,000 x 14 years, Jazmin's age) and as leahteresa mentioned in the first thread, he could pay for her college education. I think if this happens though, there won't really be an announcement. PA will say it's his private life.

And I'm also waiting for him to sue Oggi, Bunte and other Euro tabloids who've been doing this "secret daughter" story since it's a far better reason to sue than for photos of him and his girlfriend snuggling up together on vacation.

[magnik]

Originally Posted by Laviollette

But do you think the palace would make an official announcement? If they are doing DNA testing and PA is the father (although I find it odd that Jazmin doesn't resemble any of the Kelly's or Grimaldi's due their strong genes), he should provide compensation; $2.5M for back child support (this is calculating what Eric Coste gets per month, $15,000 x 14 years, Jazmin's age) and as leahteresa mentioned in the first thread, he could pay for her college education. I think if this happens though, there won't really be an announcement. PA will say it's his private life.

And I'm also waiting for him to sue Oggi, Bunte and other Euro tabloids who've been doing this "secret daughter" story since it's a far better reason to sue than for photos of him and his girlfriend snuggling up together on vacation.

Maybe PA will say that. But I don't think that the mother - if it will be prove that the girl is Albert's daughter, want keep it in a private.

[TrustWorthy]

Originally Posted by magnik

Maybe PA will say that. But I don't think that the mother - if it will be prove that the girl is Albert's daughter, want keep it in a private.

Other than the initial case 14 years ago -- she has kept it quite -- unless you can prove me wrong.