General News & Information about Albert, Charlene & Family 5: July 2020 - Jan. 2022

[Lee-Z]

Originally Posted by Florestane

Aiva was born 24th May, I believe.

quite possible, i saw an article dated 2 june 2016, which is a thursday and it said "last tuesday" as the day Aiva was born which led me to 31 may, but it could well be last tuesday as in the week before, so that would be 24 may

that gave P.Albert and the twins even a little more travel room ptobably for this year's birthday and who knows, they might often have popped over to see Charlene at work in SA, when you have the luxury of private travel, why not use it

[melina premiere]

Aiva may have been born on may 24th but her parents postponed the party to celebrate it with Albert, Charlene and the twins one week later because Albert was not free to fly to SA this last week with Jacques and Gabriella who had to go to school

Albert and the twins were in South Africa also to celebrate early the 10th anniversary of their wedding, Albert and the twins took the plane after the ceremony of the fète Dieu thuesday evening
On the photo, Charlene lost a lot of weight, she was more ill that the palace said it in the press release

[Florestane]

Originally Posted by melina premiere

Aiva may have been born on may 24th but her parents postponed the party to celebrate it with Albert, Charlene and the twins one week later because Albert was not free to fly to SA this last week with Jacques and Gabriella who had to go to school

Albert and the twins were in South Africa also to celebrate early the 10th anniversary of their wedding, Albert and the twins took the plane after the ceremony of the fète Dieu thuesday evening
On the photo, Charlene lost a lot of weight, she was more ill that the palace said it in the press release

They didn't postpone the party - she had a party on her birthday with her friends and her parents' friends.

This is a separate small family celebration.

Are the Monaco schools on a break at the moment?

Also, I shall take this opportunity to put you straight on something - nobody here has expressed surprise at the dates or said that this some kind of montage by the Palace.

You have no idea when Albert and the twins went to South Africa or why they went - most likely to see family and catch up with Charlene when she was unable to fly and not for a kid's birthday party and an early wedding anniversary celebration.

When you published the original birthday photo you also thought it was Roc Agel and made up some nonsense about wearing sweaters because it's higher up.

[Alisa]

Originally Posted by bertie5252003

Charlene has for me anyway been a huge disappointment while charities and obligations in royal life are the backbone she appears to be doing her own thing not working as part of a team. I don't like that sort of behaviour, I agree children should never replace an adult at formal occasions her place is with her husband on these days that are of national or/and social importance otherwise what is there! this is only IMO of course

In Charlene's defense, she has had to endure a very difficult and challenging marriage from the beginning.
Even now Albert is currently embattled in another child paternity scandal.
It is evident that it has taken its toll but she seems like she is doing the best she can.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Alisa

In Charlene's defense, she has had to endure a very difficult and challenging marriage from the beginning.
Even now Albert is currently embattled in another child paternity scandal.
It is evident that it has taken its toll but she seems like she is doing the best she can.

She must have been aware that Albert had 2 children by other women and that he hadn't wanted to acknowledge the first one. She's lived with him for some time before they got married, so she had time to decide if she wanted the marriage or not. it seems to me that she's just not that keen on doing the usual royal duties and presumably Albert is OK with that.

[Alisa]

Originally Posted by Denville

She must have been aware that Albert had 2 children by other women and that he hadn't wanted to acknowledge the first one. She's lived with him for some time before they got married, so she had time to decide if she wanted the marriage or not. it seems to me that she's just not that keen on doing the usual royal duties and presumably Albert is OK with that.

It's one thing for bachelor Albert to have relationships and 2 kids out of wedlock.
It's another thing for a Albert as a husband who swore before God and men to do such things.

[sophie25]

Originally Posted by Alisa

It's one thing for bachelor Albert to have relationships and 2 kids out of wedlock.
It's another thing for a Albert as a husband who swore before God and men to do such things.

The girl claiming to be his daughter was born in July 2015 but he wasn't going out with Charlene at that time so if she is his daughter then it's got nothing to do with his relationship with his wife.

[Denville]

wasn't there a scandal aorund the time they got married? I think if all this stuff was going to bother Charlene, she must have knonwn it before they got married... Even if ALbert only has 2 children by girlfriends, other women are likley to pop up wiht claims and he had a long bachelor life...

Originally Posted by Lee-Z

quite possible, i saw an article dated 2 june 2016, which is a thursday and it said "last tuesday" as the day Aiva was born which led me to 31 may, but it could well be last tuesday as in the week before, so that would be 24 may

that gave P.Albert and the twins even a little more travel room ptobably for this year's birthday and who knows, they might often have popped over to see Charlene at work in SA, when you have the luxury of private travel, why not use it

In normal times, yes that would be OK, but at present there's still restrictions on travelling.

[Florestane]

Information about Aiva's birthday. Check the date carefully, Melina.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPPwFhHH...dium=copy_link

[_Heather_]

Originally Posted by Alisa

In Charlene's defense, she has had to endure a very difficult and challenging marriage from the beginning.
Even now Albert is currently embattled in another child paternity scandal.
It is evident that it has taken its toll but she seems like she is doing the best she can.

Serious question here because I don't closely follow the RF of Monaco but what has been so terribly difficult and challenging in her marriage? The two out of wedlock children were, I believe, both known about before the marriage. I know there have been loads of rumors about the nature of the marriage and what "arrangements" there might be behind the scenes and, of course, there were loads of "runaway bride" rumors around the time of the wedding. And it certainly didn't help matters that she sobbed and looked miserable all the way through the wedding. But none of those really speak to the marriage being difficult and challenging. What am I missing?

[An Ard Ri]

And HSH Prince Albert II is back in Monaco I wonder if they all returned?

[camelot23ca]

Originally Posted by _Heather_

Serious question here because I don't closely follow the RF of Monaco but what has been so terribly difficult and challenging in her marriage? The two out of wedlock children were, I believe, both known about before the marriage. I know there have been loads of rumors about the nature of the marriage and what "arrangements" there might be behind the scenes and, of course, there were loads of "runaway bride" rumors around the time of the wedding. And it certainly didn't help matters that she sobbed and looked miserable all the way through the wedding. But none of those really speak to the marriage being difficult and challenging. What am I missing?

I don’t know if there’s ever been firm evidence of problems in the marriage. I think there’s been circumstantial evidence over the years that points to potential issues.. I wouldn’t be shocked if there were problems, but I could say the same thing about one or two other royal marriages. And Charlene has never really seemed to take to public royal life, but again, she’s not the only royal bride who has had rough patches, and she and Albert were together long enough before the marriage that he must have had a reasonable idea of what he could expect from her going forward. I’d also assume she would have known what she could expect from him.

I don’t closely follow this family, but Albert certainly seems to be happy enough acting on his own at public events. He and Charlene may both be perfectly content with the state of their marriage and how they’ve arranged their public lives. I also think it’s great that they regularly take the children with them to various events.

I’ve never been convinced that Albert and Charlene had a traditional love story but that doesn’t mean they can’t have a solid marriage.

[Denville]

They may have agreed to her not doing royal duties, but it seems to me that that's going to make her less popular. and Albert does seem to do a lot of stuff so he presumably thinks that he needs to be seen a lot.. perhaps because his wife doesn't do that much.

[MsJulie]

I think Prince Albert gives Princess Charlene a lot of space. Public Life must be very hard. Just reading here at RF, so many of us have different opinions of what Royalty should wear, how to act, naming children and the list can go on. Being the person under scrutiny must be very hard.
I also think, that Princess Caroline and Princess Stepahnine, but especially Caroline carried on the role as First Lady for the late Prince (her father) and for Prince Albert. I am wonder if The princesses did not resent a new person, a new First Lady, coming into the family. With Charlene taking a back roll, Caroline can continue being Acting First Lady. Just what she wanted. maybe Charlene is fine with that too. I would not want to be Albert trying to keep things calm between his wife and sisters. I think there is some drama that goes on.
JMOO

[sophie25]

Is PC STILL in S. Africa? It's her 10th wedding anniversary in less than 3 weeks, where on Earth is she?

[Elly C]

Whether she is in South Africa or not, it’s a long time since she did a public engagement in Monaco. Hope she is back on duty soon. Incident, is there a Red Cross Ball this year?

[An Ard Ri]

From memory I think the last public engagement was at the funeral of King Goodwill Zwelithini back in mid March over 3 months ago.

[Denville]

I would say that its unlikely there will be a Ball this year.. Covid still. And I wouldn't hold my breath about Charlene doing anything. It seems like she's still away and not in a rush to get home..

[sophie25]

I'm seriously fearful that the Princess is either very ill or the couple have separated. No update on where she is since the GP is a poor show from the Palace.

[Heavs]

Originally Posted by sophie25

I'm seriously fearful that the Princess is either very ill or the couple have separated. No update on where she is since the GP is a poor show from the Palace.

I'm trying to work it out. It seems he and the twins were probably in SA in May before coming back and continuing to make appearances together in early June. There was a gap in his appearances which coincides with the birthday celebration of the twins' cousin.

That's a few days after the ear infection announcement which might mean she can't fly.

I don't think she's seriously ill or that there's evidence that they've separated but she clearly seems to be making her conservation work in SA her top priority at the moment.