Charlotte Casiraghi Current Events Part 35: November 2010 - June 2011

[trepstrep]

I agree with you, I really like her 20/21 body (actually i had forgotten that she actually has a very nice, soft and womanly body! She could be SO much beautiful than she is now!)
By the way, at 14-15 Charlotte was riding, and she had a fuller figure than she has now. Horse jumping does not make you that skinny, it's not gimnastic or athletics!
As azure says, Zara Phillips is a pro, one of the best in the world and she looks like this:
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_01/025mummygene1DM_468x687.jpg
And Athina? Is she muscled or skinny?
Actually I don't know of any jump rider who looks as skinny as Charlotte does.

By the way, the picture you have at 16 was actually taken when Charlotte was 17 (2003), while playing volley in some beach. Charlottemariepomeline blog has the dates wrong. At 16 she really did go through some kind of eating desorder and she was obviously sick. Remember the terrible pics of her in the blue bikini going down from a the boat?

 

[palomasie]

Are you sure that it is Charlotte ???

Yes I am! That's definitely her.

I agree with everything trepstep said! But my favourite body was at the age of 18/19

 

[FanofMonaco]

Charlotte said she is a jogger. Runners tend to be pretty thin, especially if they run several miles a day. She probably also does something like weightlifting, yoga or aerobics. I agree with TrepStep though. When you can see all of her ribs she is either over excercising or under eating.

 

[trepstrep]

Charlotte said she is a jogger. Runners tend to be pretty thin, especially if they run several miles a day. She probably also does something like weightlifting, yoga or aerobics. I agree with TrepStep though. When you can see all of her ribs she is either over excercising or under eating.

Well, we know she is over perfectionist. I don't know why but for some reason I always thought she was that way and I wasn't surprised to read about it in her ELLE interview.
She maybe isn't obsesing about her weight in a silly fashionist and superficial way, but as a result of her perfectionist personality. She supposedly had an eating disorder when she was 15-16, and very perfectionist personality types sometimes have anorexic tendencies.
She propably puts herself under a lot of stress unwilingly, or stress prevents her from eating properly?
In any case it is a shame because she was such an amazing beauty at lately, well, she is not the same...

 

[Vera Friedel]

As for Charlotte body, this is my 2 cents. The pics from Rio almost scared me because you could count her ribs and she has zero breast. I mean there was nothing in her bikini top, and I mean nothing.....
She is way too thin and too muscular. It is up to her what to do with her body and she is adult enough to understand ( I hope ) that freaky thin is not beautiful nor healthy.

 

[azure]

Way too thin and too muscular is a wrong combination..
Hmm, yoga or aerobics? I love those kind of exercises that help & calm the body and mind at the same time, but her body doesn't show me for doing either aerobics nor yoga. Her posture would be definitely better plus she wouldn't have this hunch in her back.
As a rider - here it has nothing to do if she's a proffesional or not - i think she should follow a proper diet that wouldn't let her body look like that.

 

[Horseygal]

Does anyone see a correlation between her relationship with Alex Dellal and her weight loss issue.....when she was younger and/or with Felix, she didn't seem so stressed and unhappy. I attribute some of her recent behavior (unflattering "late night" pictures; weight loss; more frequent pouting, etc) to her relationship.....prior to him, not so much. Stress and pressure are part of anyone's lives at times (school, career, family issues, etc), but if you do not have someone supportive, or someone putting more pressure on you, or you change your whole life for this person and it's not paying off, it's eventually going to show in the person's demeanor and appearance; perhaps we're seeing that.

 

[Vera Friedel]

Have you guys seen this picture yet? I found it at the fashion spot. I can't ID when it was taken. Perhaps at that party she didn't want to be seen? All I know is that this is the first pic in which Char looks, well, ugly.

http://i54.tinypic.com/i1l84z.jpg

This does not look like her at all.
I think it is just a bad angle, I would call her freaky more than ugly.

 

[Vanya Trubetskoy]

She has always been thin. When she stopped jumping, she gain weight.

14*15*16*17*18*19*20*21*22*23*24

Charlotte looks healthy, she not looks sick.

WOW! Its scary to see what has happened to her body. I have always been super skinny, so I know the diff between skinny and sickly, and Charlotte does not look well. Compare #15 to the Rio pics!

 

[Vanya Trubetskoy]

Does anyone see a correlation between her relationship with Alex Dellal and her weight loss issue.....when she was younger and/or with Felix, she didn't seem so stressed and unhappy. I attribute some of her recent behavior (unflattering "late night" pictures; weight loss; more frequent pouting, etc) to her relationship.....prior to him, not so much. Stress and pressure are part of anyone's lives at times (school, career, family issues, etc), but if you do not have someone supportive, or someone putting more pressure on you, or you change your whole life for this person and it's not paying off, it's eventually going to show in the person's demeanor and appearance; perhaps we're seeing that.

I see it! I totally agree with you!
One possibility. I can see Alex not being popular with the old guard at the palace. He is not cut from the same cloth as Beatrice or Tatiana, old money catholic. He's been called Charlotte's Felipe Junot. Anyway, I think she knows full well that Alex is not popular and it could be a big stress point.
Caroline and family's visit to Rio could have been their way of giving Charlotte support, for Alex AND his family. I can seriously see these people not being popular with the conservative set in Monaco!

 

[Elly C]

Does anyone see a correlation between her relationship with Alex Dellal and her weight loss issue.....when she was younger and/or with Felix, she didn't seem so stressed and unhappy. I attribute some of her recent behavior (unflattering "late night" pictures; weight loss; more frequent pouting, etc) to her relationship.....prior to him, not so much. Stress and pressure are part of anyone's lives at times (school, career, family issues, etc), but if you do not have someone supportive, or someone putting more pressure on you, or you change your whole life for this person and it's not paying off, it's eventually going to show in the person's demeanor and appearance; perhaps we're seeing that.

I don't get the impression that the relationship with Alex is causing stress & pressure. He appears quite well integrated into the family from the many holiday pics we see. They seem to be a settled couple - I'm not sure where the impression he is not supportive comes from. Charlotte can often be found at fashion shows/mixing with designers etc, & it is a world that is full of young women who are size 0, so I am not surprised that she has gradually assimilated a similar "look".

 

[Horseygal]

I agree - Vanya - that he and his family are probably not received well by the old guard in Monaco, due to the partying and obvious wilder lifestyle. Caroline may have known Alex's mother (forgot her name) from years ago, socially or thru the fashion world, and maybe the families are trying to get to know each other by vacationing together, if things are headed toward engagement for Charlotte. From the beginning, the impression I've had of Alex and his interaction with Charlotte over the years (from photos) is that he is isn't that "into" her and what she's doing - equestrian efforts, fashion (even though his mother and sister are associated with the industry). I'm sure it doesn't hurt him to be seen with someone of her caliber, but he always looks bored and isn't physically affectionate; she is more "into" him than he seems to be with her - maybe privately, he's all over her....doubt it. I, too, see him as her Philip Junot - a big mistake she'll regret. Maybe there is some "bad boy" attraction, and he's older, so he's aware that she probably adores him more than he does her.....we'll see how this plays out, but I think she can do better - doesn't have to be royalty, but someone with his head on his shoulders and appreciates her for who she is as a person, not her status in life....

 

[CasiraghiTrio]

Charlotte said she is a jogger. Runners tend to be pretty thin, especially if they run several miles a day. She probably also does something like weightlifting, yoga or aerobics. I agree with TrepStep though. When you can see all of her ribs she is either over excercising or under eating.

True, she's a jogger/runner. And swimmer. Definitely agree she's doing weights too. Maybe not yoga, like Azure says, yoga does a lot for posture, and hers has never been good. True about the ribs. She fully has the six pack going on. She had a pretty much ideal body in 2007/early 2008, i.e. pics 20/21 (of the recent batch posted by rereh).

Trep's perfectionist theory is interesting. I also always suspected this aspect of her personality, before its recent confirmation. One could always see that she had high aspirations/expectations from herself. But.... I did not know that she had an eating disorder. I have read RUMORS about that (rumors that piqued in 2002, around the summertime, when her body was pretty frighteningly thin) but I didn't know there was any evidence to it. Perhaps it is true. I just never assumed it either way. I thought that maybe her extreme skinniness in 2002 could have been due to a growth spurt.

Good point, Azure and Trep, about Zara and Athina and other jumping riders. Also, look at Marta (thin, but not like Charlotte) and HRH Lama from KSA has some rather childbearing hips.

Really good healthy-looking years for Charlotte, imo: 2001, 2003-2004, 2006-2008

 

[Vanya Trubetskoy]

I agree - Vanya - that he and his family are probably not received well by the old guard in Monaco, due to the partying and obvious wilder lifestyle. Caroline may have known Alex's mother (forgot her name) from years ago, socially or thru the fashion world, and maybe the families are trying to get to know each other by vacationing together, if things are headed toward engagement for Charlotte. From the beginning, the impression I've had of Alex and his interaction with Charlotte over the years (from photos) is that he is isn't that "into" her and what she's doing - equestrian efforts, fashion (even though his mother and sister are associated with the industry). I'm sure it doesn't hurt him to be seen with someone of her caliber, but he always looks bored and isn't physically affectionate; she is more "into" him than he seems to be with her - maybe privately, he's all over her....doubt it. I, too, see him as her Philip Junot - a big mistake she'll regret. Maybe there is some "bad boy" attraction, and he's older, so he's aware that she probably adores him more than he does her.....we'll see how this plays out, but I think she can do better - doesn't have to be royalty, but someone with his head on his shoulders and appreciates her for who she is as a person, not her status in life....

I sense some self esteem issues with Charlotte. I remember reading some time ago that Prince Rainer favored the boys, particularly Andrea. That, along with losing her father at an early age could have had a negative affect, hence running around with Alex and his crowd, her weight issues.
But what I find disturbing is her riding. If she is not eating properly and getting proper nutrition isn't she putting herself and the horses she rides in harms way?!

 

[agogo]

I see it! I totally agree with you!
One possibility. I can see Alex not being popular with the old guard at the palace. He is not cut from the same cloth as Beatrice or Tatiana, old money catholic. He's been called Charlotte's Felipe Junot. Anyway, I think she knows full well that Alex is not popular and it could be a big stress point.
Caroline and family's visit to Rio could have been their way of giving Charlotte support, for Alex AND his family. I can seriously see these people not being popular with the conservative set in Monaco!

She does not spend that much time in Monaco anyhow, so what the "old guard" thinks probably does not matter.
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[Vanya Trubetskoy]

She does not spend that much time in Monaco anyhow, so what the "old guard" thinks probably does not matter.
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Oh, I think it does. Especially since being with him has changed her so much.
I can see her at the start not caring (what people think), but I bet it gets on her nerves now.

 

[Nora80b]

a question..

I see this thread now busy,,,so can anyone please post the link of the-niachros- I remember there is a thread here about them..the FSP forum is quite difficult with membership

 

[Horseygal]

Even though Charlotte is not expected to ever sit on the throne, her image is still important as one of the faces of young Monaco. Her equestian efforts are something young girls can respect and admire - maybe emulate; her attendance at fashion events is expected as a young socialite/royal - not exactly frowned upon, unless it involves being photographed out on the town using illegal substances and/or exhibiting other unflattering behavior that will embarrass the Principality - so, even though many of the "old guard" are more attached to Prince Albert, Caroline and her family are still important. I don't believe that anyone would turn down an invitation to attend and contribute to one of their charitable efforts, but if Charlotte ends up going down the lost path of Princess Stephanie, all will lose respect for her. As Charlotte matures, I hope she's going to choose a profession, or become more involved in charitable efforts - hard to do if people have a negative opinion of her, and she does nothing to maintain a positive image - unfortunately, for someone in her world - it matters who she marries.

 

[Nora80b]

please anyone, I know this is Charlotte thread, but can anyone help find the niachros thread?

Thank you

 

[Vanya Trubetskoy]

Also, keep in mind Monaco is a conservative catholic country. It took Princess Grace a few years to win over her subjects, they turned up their noses because she was a 'movie star'. Alex and his family don't fit in there, even though they have money. Money and social standing are two different things.
It's interesting at the Rose Ball, which is coming up, when he goes he's always kinda in the backround. He is not seen up in front the way Beatrice or Tatiana are. One doesn't get the feeling that he is Charlotte's escort, the same way at least Andrea and Pierre escort their partners.

 

[agogo]

Stephano Casiraghi appeared quiet and in the background too, perhaps it was just his personality or discomfort with the press. He didn't always smile for the cameras. I'm sure that he had a great personality, but in paparazzi photos or at official events his image was that of a quiet personality. Perhaps Alex Dellal is quiet too and does nothing to court the press.

 

[Nadine]

I was surprised last week when my elder sister called me to say that Charlotte was getting married to Alex (she saw it on some t.v. show), and therefore relieved when I found out the truth by coming here, lol.

Seriously, I'll be outright honest/truth/blunt, as is my way. I don't like him, neither his simian muy feo looks, globetrotting personality, drinking ways, partying, et al. I think Alex is beneath her in every single category there is, but just like her mother before her I see Charlotte marrying him eventually. *sticks out tongue & barfs*

No reflection on him and his family, but it irritates the heck out of me when I see a naturally gorgeous person marry the opposite, I think one should stick with one's own kind as much as possible, be it looks, intelligence, socio-economic level, status, whatnot. I'm old-fashioned, that's the way I was raised, and proud of it.

As for the slop about her being anorexic, too skinny, not gorgeous, lol, what a joke, are we still in highschool here? I know I'm not. Charlotte is a physically gorgeous creature, just like her mother before her, combined with intelligence, class, social status, et al, therefore that naturally makes her one to be envied by many, picked apart, trying to find some imaginary flaw. That says more about that person than it does Charlotte herself. Fact.

Anyhow, I just popped in to read the latest on Charlotte (& Alex), knowing nothing I say nor do can prevent her from marrying someone I consider beneath her, so I've actually come to accept Alex as her future husband. C'est la vie.

Enjoy life while you still can, Young Charlotte, but please don't disregard tradition, responsibility, morals, class, character, honor, the enviroment, and being the best and most kindest person that you can be.

 

[Kastalia]

Guys,no offence to anyone here but I'm pretty sure that Charlotte and Alex know how to use the internet and and their PC's.I can't even imagine how would they feel if they ever entered this forum..I've also expressed my opinion many times but I think that we've been very harsh on them and their relationship lately.Remember that we don't know them..We have hardly heard her voice once and we know Alex only from photos..

 

[pdc]

please anyone, I know this is Charlotte thread, but can anyone help find the niachros thread?

Thank you

Is this thread?

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/f140/the-niarchos-kids-9263.html

 

[Nora80b]

Helllo

Yes..thank you so much for posting the link..I'm surprised it doesn't get updated!

 

[kells]

I just poked in to say looking in from the outside is no way to judge a relationship. I've never understood the intense hatred that Alex stirs, but all I can say is that this is really Charlotte's decision and not our call to make. If she wants to stay with him, I can only assume there is something there. She obviously doesn't think he's beneath her.

The difference w/ Caroline & Junot and Char & Alex, is that for the latter, I've never heard any rumors that he cheats on her or treats her bad. With his last girlfriend, that was a different story. And I doubt that he abuses her, physically or verbally, otherwise, would Caroline and Andrea & Pierre seriously consort with this guy and hang out with his family in Brazil?

As for the Catholic thing, it doesn't seem to bother Charlotte.
She can claim to be Catholic all she wants, but she's already living with this guy and that's a violation one of the basic Catholic doctrines. Religion is probably going to be the last thing to inhibit her.

One more thing, I don't think Alex is the cause or the one encouraging her to be skinny seeing as she was rather healthy (not fat) looking when they first began dating. I speculate all those rumors about her being "pregnant" had disastrous effects. She was like 20 when all this happened; I'm 20 now and weight is something that's becoming more and more prevalent in my mind, especially with the media craze surrounding it: celebrities, weight loss shows, fashion, etc. It's not something that you can dismiss lightly anymore. Everybody's thinking about it. And who wants to be called 'pregnant' especially at 20 when your body is still developing and you're probably still trying to figure yourself out, gain confidence, and all that.

On the Alex issue, I just don't like to judge a relationship of people I don't know because...well, I don't know them.

 

[Empress Merel]

Guys,no offence to anyone here but I'm pretty sure that Charlotte and Alex know how to use the internet and and their PC's.I can't even imagine how would they feel if they ever entered this forum..I've also expressed my opinion many times but I think that we've been very harsh on them and their relationship lately.Remember that we don't know them..We have hardly heard her voice once and we know Alex only from photos..

I agree. He may not be everyone's type (not mine, atleast) but hey, if the future King of England can marry a simple girl who probably worked less than Charlotte, Charlotte can be in a relationship with a sickingly rich dude and his famous family and friends. She could certainly do worse.

 

[Vanya Trubetskoy]

Guys,no offence to anyone here but I'm pretty sure that Charlotte and Alex know how to use the internet and and their PC's.I can't even imagine how would they feel if they ever entered this forum..I've also expressed my opinion many times but I think that we've been very harsh on them and their relationship lately.Remember that we don't know them..We have hardly heard her voice once and we know Alex only from photos..

Charlotte never reads TRF, just go to the I've Met Charlotte thread, and you can see which of the Casi Trio comes here.
As far as Alex coming on here.........
Charlotte and her siblings are public figures and I have absolutely no problem expressing my opinion about their lives. Alex by default is also a public figure.
He doesn't appear to court the press, but he sure doesn't seem to mind being in the spotlight. Same goes with his family.
True we don't know them, and to know for sure whats going btw Charlotte and Alex is impossible, BUT it's fair game to scrutinize photos, body language, dramatic changes in body shape, and or mood swings as with any other public figures.

 

[Empress Merel]

Charlotte never reads TRF, just go to the I've Met Charlotte thread, and you can see which of the Casi Trio comes here.
As far as Alex coming on here.........
Charlotte and her siblings are public figures and I have absolutely no problem expressing my opinion about their lives. Alex by default is also a public figure.
He doesn't appear to court the press, but he sure doesn't seem to mind being in the spotlight. Same goes with his family.
True we don't know them, and to know for sure whats going btw Charlotte and Alex is impossible, BUT it's fair game to scrutinize photos, body language, dramatic changes in body shape, and or mood swings as with any other public figures.

Sorry- but no, just no. You believe that story?

 

[Vanya Trubetskoy]

Yes. I think it is very plausible.