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01-03-2019, 03:13 PM
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If it IS true then that is disgraceful behaviour on both their parts. Bringing children into the world is a serious thing and I have no time for people who do this willy nilly. First Gad has a son and dosn't stay with the mother then fathers one with Charlotte and dosn't stay with her either. After that experience Charlotte decide's it's a good idea to fall pregnant yet again with someone else who left a previous relationship where a child was involved after a brief relationship with him. These are people who are well educated with every advantage in life yet can't get their act together. They may have billions but I wouldn't swap my own or my children's very stable lives for their's for all the tea in China.
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How incredibly close minded and judgmental.
Humans are just that, human. And not everyone shares the same beliefs on marriage and child rearing. From the looks of things, Charlotte has done just fine co-parenting her first. If this is a problem, perhaps we should all hope/pray/send good vibes, that these two adults can make the decision to be cohesive and caring co-parents.
Who are we to judge this woman's choices and life? Especially when we know so little about it in the first place.
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01-03-2019, 03:26 PM
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How incredibly close minded and judgmental.
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Personally I call that having standards.
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01-03-2019, 03:34 PM
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Well the situation isn't ideal. So I can understand why some would be frustrated with Charlotte as she seems to repeat relationship mistakes without learning from the past.
That being said she isn't alone in her family in this. Her mother and aunt have their own string of failed relationships, but unlike them Charlotte isn't a divorcee or estranged wife. So she seems to recognize red flags early and avoids committing marriage to a futile relationship. So that's a semi-postive. And like Charlotte, Albert has two out-of-wedlock children. While Charlotte seems to be a much more present and active parent to her illegitimate children than Albert to his older children. So she's very Grimaldi in her personal missteps, though she seems slightly more practical in how she handles it than her older relatives.
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01-03-2019, 04:09 PM
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Well the situation isn't ideal. So I can understand why some would be frustrated with Charlotte as she seems to repeat relationship mistakes without learning from the past.
That being said she isn't alone in her family in this. Her mother and aunt have their own string of failed relationships, but unlike them Charlotte isn't a divorcee or estranged wife. So she seems to recognize red flags early and avoids committing marriage to a futile relationship. So that's a semi-postive. And like Charlotte, Albert has two out-of-wedlock children. While Charlotte seems to be a much more present and active parent to her illegitimate children than Albert to his older children. So she's very Grimaldi in her personal missteps, though she seems slightly more practical in how she handles it than her older relatives.
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I agree - this is well-thought out response to both sides of the argument. As you have rightly pointed out; it's a positive attribute of Charlotte or Dimitri (since we don't know who initiated the separation if it's true) to recognise the warning signs of the other's behaviour. Normally when a parent or parents separate from each other there have been some underlying problems with their relationships from one or both sides for a while (most of the single-parent families who I know personally had this happen to them, though only began to separate when their children were born or when their children were small, or even before their children were born, as was the case with my own parents) and something happens or a behaviour shows that is "the last straw" for whoever initiates the separation. It doesn't necessarily mean that either parent is careless and thoughtless when it comes to their children. I think it's far better to be a single parent and be happy and safe with their children than to be in a relationship or marriage and be in an unhappy, struggling, controlling, or abusive etc relationship (not saying that Charlotte and Dimitri's relationship was any of those things, because it would be wrong to speculate on those issues when nothing has been confirmed).
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01-03-2019, 04:13 PM
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Personally I call that having standards.
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One can have standards for ones own life without judging anothers. My point is that we know so little of this woman's relationships, she's intensely private, who are we to judge what's happened.
If this is indeed a true story, I will hope that the emotions of post partum, and holidays have conspired to make a situation larger than it is, and they can find themselves once again. And if not, then I hope they can figure out a relationship that works to make a healthy life for their son.
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01-03-2019, 09:57 PM
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One can have standards for ones own life without judging anothers. My point is that we know so little of this woman's relationships, she's intensely private, who are we to judge what's happened.
If this is indeed a true story, I will hope that the emotions of post partum, and holidays have conspired to make a situation larger than it is, and they can find themselves once again. And if not, then I hope they can figure out a relationship that works to make a healthy life for their son.
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Have as many relationships as you wish but kids don't ask to be born and that's what annoys me about people like Charlotte, Gad, Dimitri etc. Sure relationships break down and children can be caught in the fall out but none of them have cared to protect further children being born into the same mess. We're not even talking about older children here but really young ones and in Balthazar's case a baby who is only around 13 weeks old. They all need to wake up to themselves and grow up as it's the children who are going to suffer because of the adults in their lives behaving irresponsibly. Am I judging them? yes I am because they are continuing with this behaviour over and over again and it is totally selfish on their part.
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01-04-2019, 04:07 AM
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So far we only have tabloid stories about a possible seperation, there has not been any confirmation. So let us please not argue and not judge harshly on people and situations we have so little information about, civil discussions are fine and time will tell.
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01-05-2019, 04:56 PM
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As the palace never denied rumors about the privat life of the nephews and niece of Prince Albert, we must wait as I said later, it is not because it is repeat again and again that the rumors are true,
We must wait when all the family of Caroline will gather at the snow holidays next month, we will see if the couple is together or if the rumors are true but now , it is too early to say something about the relationship of Charlotte and Dimitri
Personnaly, I don't believe the rumors
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01-06-2019, 02:05 AM
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Charlotte is a private citizen she has not any official role in the principality. Consequently the palace has nothing to comment about her private life. Her mother just announced the birth of the baby that is all
Wait and see
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01-06-2019, 08:30 PM
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01-07-2019, 01:35 PM
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Maybe Carole Bouquet, his mother, will speak to the press about it, she's given an interview before about how happy they are.
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01-07-2019, 02:12 PM
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Carole Bouquet is/was expecting 2 grandchildren , the Son of Dimitri and Charlotte and her youngest son who married last year a Charlotte too who is/was pregnant.
She never spoke to the press since Baltazar is born.
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01-08-2019, 11:49 AM
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Hola is reporting that a source said they broke up after the babies birth, because they both have strong personalities. They decided their relationship wasn't working.
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01-08-2019, 03:07 PM
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Hola is reporting that a source said they broke up after the babies birth, because they both have strong personalities. They decided their relationship wasn't working.
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I wonder why they should have a baby in order to understand that they both have strong personalities?
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01-08-2019, 03:39 PM
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 Good point! If Charlotte was my daughter, sister or friend I would be very worried about her at this point. Same for Dimitri.
On the other hand, I saw a VERY recent photo of her at another site, walking the baby in his pram. The big diamond was still on her left ring finger.
And she was smiling like the sun.
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01-08-2019, 03:46 PM
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 Good point! If Charlotte was my daughter, sister or friend I would be very worried about her at this point. Same for Dimitri.
On the other hand, I saw a VERY recent photo of her at another site, walking the baby in his pram. The big diamond was still on her left ring finger.
And she was smiling like the sun. 
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I've read an article on the Italian Marie- Claire site that seems to be questioning if that photo is really since this news came out, and whether it might date from last year some time. Who knows? I'm hoping the family friend quoted on Instagram was right and all is well.
Link to the photo
https://www.instagram.com/p/BsVP07KD...d=wp1wvcwkh6hy
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01-08-2019, 04:55 PM
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That photo was taken last November in Paris (around/after the time of National Day). I remember the link for those photos were posted here several pages back.
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01-08-2019, 05:20 PM
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That photo was taken last November in Paris (around/after the time of National Day). I remember the link for those photos were posted here several pages back.
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So the Marie-Claire article was right - the Instagram account holder seemed to suggest it was a new photo in the comments.
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01-08-2019, 06:45 PM
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Hmm...okay thanks. The information that she has gone into seclusion in Barbizon must be correct.
For both their sakes, I hope this is a temporary estrangement that can be worked through. There is not only a 2 1/2 month infant to consider, but their other children have appeared to bond with one another judging from photos of them together on holidays.
Dimitri also seems genuinely fond of Raphael...it would be sad to lose him on top of the fact that he doesn't live permanently with his own father.
I wish adults would think these things through!
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01-08-2019, 07:38 PM
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That photo was taken last November in Paris (around/after the time of National Day). I remember the link for those photos were posted here several pages back.
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I cannot find the link to the specific picture in this thread. Can you point it out for us? I did find other pictures where she was wearing a caramel colored coat but that's as close as it got.
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