Charlotte Casiraghi and Family Current Events Part 40: December 2015 -December 2016 - Page 14

fandesacs2003 · #**261** 08-27-2016, 01:45 PM

It was not question of religion I think

Biri · #**262** 08-27-2016, 02:25 PM

Why it should be the question of religion?
The marriage of Chelsea Clinton & Marc Mezvinsky is an interfaith marriage (Christian and Jewish) and lasts already six years (their relationship - much longer)

titiromi · #**263** 08-27-2016, 05:38 PM

Weddings for me was always a question of commitment. Call me old fashion but for me if you are ready to have kids with a man or a woman, you should also be ready to be committed to him or her and not be afraid of marrying this person. If you know you would never/ not marry this person, then don't have kids with him or her. Especially if you are a religious person, as is to a certain extent Gad who asked for Noe to be a jew (I believe his mother was catholic) or Charlotte who asked for Raphael to be baptised (I believe she is since Raphael is not dynast, it was not mandatory for the princily family for him to be baptised )

fandesacs2003 · #**264** 08-27-2016, 11:34 PM

I agree with you @titiromi about the committment. From Charlotte's side it was supposed to be serious. So I don't think she was not willing to marry him.
The Grimaldis might get pregnant out of wedlock but they marry after.
Princess Caroline was twice pregnant but she wed, Andrea and Princess Stéphanie also.
When they have a real relationship they always marry.
And i not think that the palace interfered and refused Charlotte to marry Gad. She is actually quite far in the line of succession
So I really presume that Gad did non want to do it. And this is a bad point for him as he used this relationship enough in his Interest but did not want to give anything.
Of course people will say that Gad did non need Charlotte's fame as he is very successful himself. Yes, OK, but it was Gad who spoke about this relationship saying that he was born Morocco emigrant and now he is dating a princess..... Bad taste of declarations...
He put Charlotte into his TV show. And he went to Rose Ball. And finally he said that he did not want to wed.
Charlotte never talked about her personal life for any of her relationships.
But Gad opened his mouth constantly and was vey happy to catch attention. Very happy to make his entrance into to "high people" sphere, as talented or not he did not belonged to it before.
He is talented and rich maybe but before her he was not used to be inside palaces or social events like the Borromeo wedding, and he took full profit of this.

maria-olivia · #**265** 08-28-2016, 05:55 AM

His attendence to the Borromeo Wedding was pathetic !
His worst Role !!

Biri · #**266** 08-28-2016, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fandesacs2003

The Grimaldis might get pregnant out of wedlock but they marry after.
Princess Caroline was twice pregnant but she wed, Andrea and Princess Stéphanie also.

With one exception: Stephanie didn't marry Jean-Raymond Gottlieb.

Florestane · #**267** 08-28-2016, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Biri

With one exception: Stephanie didn't marry Jean-Raymond Gottlieb.

And Albert has two children whose mothers he didn't marry.

fandesacs2003 · #**268** 08-28-2016, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Biri

With one exception: Stephanie didn't marry Jean-Raymond Gottlieb.

It was not a relationship with Camille's father. Just a short affair.
Same for Albert and Jasmine's mum. A short fling.
I do not know how long was with Nicole Coste, but Albert was the heir and Prince Rainier alive. Another story with state reasons and interests. Far away from Charlotte's situation.

capri · #**269** 08-28-2016, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by fandesacs2003

I agree with you @titiromi about the committment. From Charlotte's side it was supposed to be serious. So I don't think she was not willing to marry him.
The Grimaldis might get pregnant out of wedlock but they marry after.
Princess Caroline was twice pregnant but she wed, Andrea and Princess Stéphanie also.
When they have a real relationship they always marry.
And i not think that the palace interfered and refused Charlotte to marry Gad. She is actually quite far in the line of succession
So I really presume that Gad did non want to do it. And this is a bad point for him as he used this relationship enough in his Interest but did not want to give anything.
Of course people will say that Gad did non need Charlotte's fame as he is very successful himself. Yes, OK, but it was Gad who spoke about this relationship saying that he was born Morocco emigrant and now he is dating a princess..... Bad taste of declarations...
He put Charlotte into his TV show. And he went to Rose Ball. And finally he said that he did not want to wed.
Charlotte never talked about her personal life for any of her relationships.
But Gad opened his mouth constantly and was vey happy to catch attention. Very happy to make his entrance into to "high people" sphere, as talented or not he did not belonged to it before.
He is talented and rich maybe but before her he was not used to be inside palaces or social events like the Borromeo wedding, and he took full profit of this.

I am afraid, you 're right, fandesacs2003.

Florestane · #**270** 08-28-2016, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by fandesacs2003

It was not a relationship with Camille's father. Just a short affair.
Same for Albert and Jasmine's mum. A short fling.
I do not know how long was with Nicole Coste, but Albert was the heir and Prince Rainier alive. Another story with state reasons and interests. Far away from Charlotte's situation.

By all accounts he was with Nicole Costs for several years on and off. But anyway, I was just responding to the comment that Grimaldis always marry if there is a pregnancy.

Personally, I don't think Charlotte (or anyone) needs to marry if she has children. She isn't titled - rich and privileged but only a member of the extended family. Do I think she might have commitment issues? Possibly - but I can only comment as an onlooker who doesn't actually know her. What I find interesting is that she seems to have a certain physical "type" that she goes for. None of them are attractive in a conventional way but all, IMO, bear a passing resemblance to Vincent Lindon, who to all intents and purposes, was her stepfather during her formative years.

azure · #**271** 08-28-2016, 02:37 PM

Do we know why Gad did not want to marry Charlotte?
If you wanted to be more active among the rich peoples' places and salons, he really missed "his princess" because of his lack of commitment..

maria-olivia · #**272** 08-28-2016, 02:55 PM

I think should have a look on Wiki Gad is one of the best French Actors and he is succesful in the USA. (since Maurice Chevalier)
He is talentful and does not need rich peoples, places and salons.
He must miss Sacha a lot .

Florestane · #**273** 08-28-2016, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by maria-olivia

I think should have a look on Wiki Gad is one of the best French Actors and he is succesful in the USA. (since Maurice Chevalier)
He talentful and does not need rich peoples, places and salons.
He must miss Sacha a lot .

I agree that he is very talented and successful and doesn't need any contacts Charlotte might have. However, some of the things he said made it seem as if was very impressed with her world and himself for gaining entry to it.

I'm sure he misses Raphaël a lot but he does have access and sees him from time to time. After all, he's the one who decided to base himself on a different continent from his younger son.

maria-olivia · #**274** 08-28-2016, 04:21 PM

Indeed Raphael El Maleh !

fandesacs2003 · #**275** 08-28-2016, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Florestane

I agree that he is very talented and successful and doesn't need any contacts Charlotte might have. However, some of the things he said made it seem as if was very impressed with her world and himself for gaining entry to it.

I'm sure he misses Raphaël a lot but he does have access and sees him from time to time. After all, he's the one who decided to base himself on a different continent from his younger son.

Absolutely agree to all you said.

Moonmaiden23 · #**276** 08-29-2016, 12:41 PM

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Really?? He did say that? Jeez

I am using hyperbole to make a point but yes...a few weeks before Charlotte gave birth he gave an interview with a publication and non equivocally made it known that marriage was not in the cards.

Maybe Charlotte was okay with it but it still struck me as indelicate and in very bad taste under the circumstance.

Gad remains the only one of Charlotte's boyfriends who discussed their relationship in the press.

maria-olivia,

I agree that Charlotte and Gad's body language at Pierre's wedding was painful to watch. Charlotte's plastered on grimace/grin was most unattractive and Gad looked as if he was on his way to witness an execution.

When I read that Charlotte fell in love with Lamberto at this event I was not a bit surprised.

maria-olivia · #**277** 08-29-2016, 12:56 PM

I agree and thanks Mooonmaiden

lazuli · #**278** 08-30-2016, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fandesacs2003

" ( ... )Of course people will say that Gad did non need Charlotte's fame as he is very successful himself. Yes, OK, but it was Gad who spoke about this relationship saying that he was born Morocco emigrant and now he is dating a princess..... Bad taste of declarations...
So I really presume that Gad did non want to do it.
He put Charlotte into his TV show. And he went to Rose Ball. And finally he said that he did not want to wed.
Charlotte never talked about her personal life for any of her relationships.
But Gad opened his mouth constantly and was vey happy to catch attention. ( ... ) "

And his bad taste in declarations goes on... According to Hola, Gad stated in an interview that Charlotte and the life they had together is still a source of inspiration to himand his gags...

http://www.hola.com/realeza/casa_mon...n-gad-elmaleh/

Carlota Casiraghi sigue siendo fuente de inspiración para Gad Elmaleh

Moonmaiden23 · #**279** 08-30-2016, 05:20 PM

I always, from the very first, had the impression that Charlotte loved Gad more than Gad loved Charlotte. She seemed almost giddy at the beginning. If she was willing to let him blab to the media about the relationship-something none of her other boyfriends dared to do-I am not surprised.

Florestane · #**280** 08-30-2016, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lazuli

And his bad taste in declarations goes on... According to Hola, Gad stated in an interview that Charlotte and the life they had together is still a source of inspiration to himand his gags...

http://www.hola.com/realeza/casa_mon...n-gad-elmaleh/

Carlota Casiraghi sigue siendo fuente de inspiración para Gad Elmaleh

Yes, the interview is in the latest issue of Vanity Fair - on the one hand he's quite discreet and then on the other hand he comes across like a small boy who can't believe his luck!

You'd think after nearly four years together he would know she has no title and stop calling her a princess.