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12-03-2015, 10:51 AM
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How is it her fault that photographers stalk her for a picture? If she was throwing a fit or hitting them you would criticize her. She's only living her life folks.
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12-03-2015, 10:55 AM
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Next time, dear Paranoia, please read more carefully my comments: "...Of course, Charlotte has the right to live her life with the man she loves, but she could keep her privacy...".
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All right, dear Capri, now I guess you will be so kind as to explain to me how can anyone live her life with the man she loves without being seen in the streets with them.
I wouldn't categorize taking a walk with the dog, going to dinner in your neighboorhood, travelling to the town your love lives in to see him, or spending a couple of days in a little and not very touristic tuscanian town (by Tuscany standars, nearly everytown has tourists in Italy), far away from the press and the socialite world as exposing one self. Simply, as living.
If you thing it is wrong of her to go spend a weekend in a little town far away from the press or going for a walk in the parc near her home I wonder how can she exert her right to live her own live.
And, of course, if you know how you can keep your privacy while dozens of paparazzi prosecute you all day long, I'm sure Charlotte would be very happy to hear your ideas.
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12-03-2015, 11:01 AM
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I think the article is written from somebody -sorry guys- but really stupid, who wanted to sell the papers!! Why should we compare both sides? And actually, we have already seen a picture of Gad with a n o t h e r woman! Maybe Gad left Charlotte or it was a mutual decision. Nobody has "failed" in that story, to say so.
While Gad was doing his performances, Charlotte was keeping the child and she was named from the tabloids as the kind of pour newly mother left at home to take care of their kid blah blah.. And now they give the exactly opposite 'face' to her! Crazy..! They just exaggerate the things and we do not actually no the inner story in order to judge.
I can only notice some repeated habits i have seen on Charlotte and that is indeed that she finds a man directly after finishing her relationship wit the previous one. She comes out as a really insecure and dependent person. Like she tries to make everybody believe that she has no problem that she had separated and now 'see me', i am enjoying my new life with my new boy.
Plus, the current situation with the italian guy reminds me of her beginning relationship with Gad. Really all of laughs, hugging and so on. This is going to be another failed relationship and sorry to prejudge it.
For me she seems a person, who looks for a stable partner and a stable and balanced personal life, but she cannot find that. And she will still not find it, if she doesn't stop going out with the first guy she meets.
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12-03-2015, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Paranoia
All right, dear Capri, now I guess you will be so kind as to explain to me how can anyone live her life with the man she loves without being seen in the streets with them.
I wouldn't categorize taking a walk with the dog, going to dinner in your neighboorhood, travelling to the town your love lives in to see him, or spending a couple of days in a little and not very touristic tuscanian town (by Tuscany standars, nearly everytown has tourists in Italy), far away from the press and the socialite world as exposing one self. Simply, as living.
If you thing it is wrong of her to go spend a weekend in a little town far away from the press or going for a walk in the parc near her home I wonder how can she exert her right to live her own live.
And, of course, if you know how you can keep your privacy while dozens of paparazzi prosecute you all day long, I'm sure Charlotte would be very happy to hear your ideas.
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Charlotte and all the Grimaldi family DO know how to keep their life private and when they want to make a little "big" fuss about it, they just do it....  It is not a coincidence that we have weeks or a whole month to see them sometimes. And yes, that has happened with Charlotte, too. And when she is annoyed with the magazines, she usually sues them. As she would do that with the magazine that took a pic of her while kissing with her new boyfriend at her apartment..!
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12-03-2015, 02:50 PM
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I'm sorry but most of these comments are shocking.
A young woman has no right to live a new life, why? Is her kid abandoned alone ? No. Rafael was with his dad.
We do not know why they did split and which effort might have done Charlotte to save this relationship with Gad. We did not know how long it took them to realize that it was over. And now, because she spent two or three weekends without the baby she is to blame. Why. Is she condamned to live the rest of her life alone ?
And she did not bring him at home with Rafael. They are outside. Unfortunately she is pursued by paparazzis, and she is caught outside y
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12-03-2015, 04:45 PM
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I'm sorry but most of these comments are shocking.
A young woman has no right to live a new life, why? Is her kid abandoned alone ? No. Rafael was with his dad.
We do not know why they did split and which effort might have done Charlotte to save this relationship with Gad. We did not know how long it took them to realize that it was over. And now, because she spent two or three weekends without the baby she is to blame. Why. Is she condamned to live the rest of her life alone ?
And she did not bring him at home with Rafael. They are outside. Unfortunately she is pursued by paparazzis, and she is caught outside y
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I totally agree!
Further to that Charlotte has left a man who has publicly stated that he won't marry her. That's pretty brutal but there has been very little criticism of that. She has every right to begin a new life.
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12-03-2015, 05:14 PM
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I totally agree!
Further to that Charlotte has left a man who has publicly stated that he won't marry her. That's pretty brutal but there has been very little criticism of that. She has every right to begin a new life.
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To be fair we don't know her view on marriage it mightn't be brutal at all. I'm sure they are happy with their lives
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12-03-2015, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by azure
Charlotte and all the Grimaldi family DO know how to keep their life private and when they want to make a little "big" fuss about it, they just do it....  It is not a coincidence that we have weeks or a whole month to see them sometimes. And yes, that has happened with Charlotte, too. And when she is annoyed with the magazines, she usually sues them. As she would do that with the magazine that took a pic of her while kissing with her new boyfriend at her apartment..!
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Suing a magazine doesn't stop the publication. And the pics taken inside her appartment are the proof. She was kissing her boyfriend in the privacy of her home. And we have seen it.
And yet they are people bashing her because her kid will see those pics in the future!
There is no way Charlotte can keep her new romance hidden. Of course she can keep some privacy at certain quiet moments of her life. But when something news worthy happens, they are dozens of papparazzi wainting for her everywhere. Unless she stops living her normal life and hides at home or travels to some country far away from France or Italy there is no way she can keep her life private.
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I totally agree!
Further to that Charlotte has left a man who has publicly stated that he won't marry her. That's pretty brutal but there has been very little criticism of that. She has every right to begin a new life.
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I don't understand what's the problem with Gad stating that they weren't planning to get married. It's not the 19th century. A woman doesn't need a man to marry her. Maybe it was Charlotte who didn't care about a wedding. Maybe none of them was interested in getting married.
More than half of european young couples are not married and don't plan to do so.
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12-03-2015, 05:54 PM
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 Don't forget the number of divorces, break-ups in her family....How can you reproduce a stability you have never known yourself....
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12-03-2015, 05:57 PM
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As I read it, the only "complaint" is that Charlotte appears to go from "new man" to "new man" to "new man". I think people are only suggesting a breather in between the "new men". :)
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12-03-2015, 06:00 PM
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 Don't forget the number of divorces, break-ups in her family....How can you reproduce a stability you have never known yourself....
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Maybe... but so far her brothers have done a good job of being in a long term relationship.
Anyway, we really don't know what's going on and what she is like - she is very unlikely to give an interview and her inner circle won't speak without it being a huge betrayal.
All we can do is surmise certain things from how they appear (judgements we make based on our own life experiences) from the pictures and snippets we pick up.
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12-03-2015, 08:18 PM
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I do think she should take a breather and just focus on her kid. She's pretty, but her looks aren't what they used to be and I wonder if whether or not she has the ability to settle down and find a nice man. Both her brothers have nice girls and I don't see why she isn't taking a step back and reorganizing her life. As for the French papers defending Gad, I believe this is the first time the French papers have criticized Charlotte. Usually the French media fawns over her and likes to have her pose for them.
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12-03-2015, 08:35 PM
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At the beginning of her relationship with Alex Dellal Charlotte sued PdV and won a violation of privacy judgment against them simply for publishing holiday photos of the couple swimming in the sea.
Now, we have seen pap photos taken of her making out with her new love in the privacy of her home no less, and for dessert the French press seems to be intimating that she is fickle, and a bad mother to boot.  If she doesn't sue for THAT I don't know what to think except that she wants to send a strong message that Gad is out and Lamberto is IN and doesn't care who disapproves.
I am not surprised that the French press is siding with Gad. He is a native son, and very popular in France.
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12-04-2015, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Paranoia
Suing a magazine doesn't stop the publication. And the pics taken inside her appartment are the proof. She was kissing her boyfriend in the privacy of her home. And we have seen it.
And yet they are people bashing her because her kid will see those pics in the future!
There is no way Charlotte can keep her new romance hidden. Of course she can keep some privacy at certain quiet moments of her life. But when something news worthy happens, they are dozens of paparazzi wainting for her everywhere. Unless she stops living her normal life and hides at home or travels to some country far away from France or Italy there is no way she can keep her life private.
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If somebody sues magazines, they respect his/her privacy and they won't be sooo provocative. Maybe they keep posting pics, but like sooo private..! It's really different taking photos of the couple at the streets kissing and different when they are in their apartment kissing..! And actually, it doesn't mean, that the magazine Charlotte sued, was also the one, who took her pics from her apartment.
At first, when she was with Alex around February and March, i really don't remember s u c h a big fuss. Maybe they knew how to 'hide'.
Plus, I agree with Moonmaiden's post.
BTW, some new pics of Charlotte in the airport, thanks to beautifulcharlotte:
http://beautifulcharlotte.tumblr.com/post/134504786628
Some other foundings from 11.11.15, don't remember being posted - if so, feel free to delete :)
http://www4.olycom.it/news_zoomair.do?c=5988072&i=14
http://www4.olycom.it/news_zoomair.do?c=5988071&i=16
http://www4.olycom.it/news_zoomair.do?c=5988077&i=18
http://www4.olycom.it/news_zoomair.do?c=5988064&i=12
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12-05-2015, 04:52 PM
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I don't understand what's the problem with Gad stating that they weren't planning to get married. It's not the 19th century. A woman doesn't need a man to marry her. Maybe it was Charlotte who didn't care about a wedding. Maybe none of them was interested in getting married.
More than half of european young couples are not married and don't plan to do so.
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Ahhh....but maybe she did want to get married....maybe he's the one who ended the relationship....these theories are just as valid as yours
But at the end of the day they are just theories and it seems that she's coming in for a lot of unwarranted criticism because she's moved on
I, for one, am happy for her
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12-05-2015, 05:38 PM
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Ahhh....but maybe she did want to get married....maybe he's the one who ended the relationship....these theories are just as valid as yours
But at the end of the day they are just theories and it seems that she's coming in for a lot of unwarranted criticism because she's moved on
I, for one, am happy for her
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I agree. We don't know Charlotte's thoughts on marriage. She doesn't give personal interviews the same way Gad does. It could be that she originally didn't care about marriage and that meshed well with Gad. But after seeing her brothers both get married she might have had a change of heart and wanted a more traditional commitment, and Gad held firm in his belief. We have no idea.
That being said I'm sure we'll find out the reason in the future. Gad is very open in his interviews and in his comedy routines. So we'll at least hear his side of the story.
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12-05-2015, 05:58 PM
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I don't think he will tell....
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12-05-2015, 06:09 PM
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I don't think he will tell....
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Maybe. He's talked about the demise of his relationship with Noé's mother. He also talked about the break-up of his 4 year relationship with Aurelie Dupont. Most comedians are very blunt, and they use their own woes as material. He never seemed shy in talking about Charlotte, in fact some people on this site got annoyed when he would reference dating "a princess". We'll see. I think he'll blab. Maybe not in the near future, but in a year or so.
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12-06-2015, 04:29 AM
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I do think she should take a breather and just focus on her kid. She's pretty, but her looks aren't what they used to be and I wonder if whether or not she has the ability to settle down and find a nice man. Both her brothers have nice girls and I don't see why she isn't taking a step back and reorganizing her life. As for the French papers defending Gad, I believe this is the first time the French papers have criticized Charlotte. Usually the French media fawns over her and likes to have her pose for them.
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