Charlene Wittstock Current Events 4 : June 2006 - Aug.2006

Elspeth · #1 06-22-2006, 02:51 PM

Welcome to part 4 of the thread to discuss Charlene Wittstock, Prince Albert's girlfriend.

Please remember that insults, gossip, and speculation are not allowed.

Part 3 is here:

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...-3-a-9887.html

Ghislaine · #2 06-22-2006, 02:59 PM

The interview can be read here:
http://www.lepoint.fr/societe/document.html?did=180237
and the introduction here:
http://www.lepoint.fr/societe/document.html?did=180236
Both in french...

The quote about CW:

Quote:

La jolie personne [NDLR : la nageuse australienne Charlene Wittstock] qui vous accompagnait au dernier Grand Prix de formule 1, avez-vous des intentions à son endroit ?
Si j'en avais, vous le sauriez sûrement.

I'd translate it as:
Q: the pretty lady that accompagnied to the last GP, do you have intentions with regard to her?
PA: If I had, you'd be sure to know.

Which can be taken both ways. a) there's nothing b) sarcastically.
Throw a dice....

G.

pinklady1991 · #3 06-22-2006, 04:51 PM

I dunno...I just can't reconcile anything right now. The mainstream press is apparently getting caught up in these rumors but when the news about Jazmin broke, the Palace denied any wedding rumors, or was I just imagining that?????? Why the change of heart now????? I also believe that she is no longer in Monaco or there would have been other sightings of her...am I right???? Didn't we all go down this path with Alicia about three years ago and then she suddenly disappeared?????

creativemind · #4 06-22-2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pinklady1991

Didn't we all go down this path with Alicia about three years ago and then she suddenly disappeared?????

...and hasn't been seen since! Yikes! :p

Poisonivy · #5 06-22-2006, 05:13 PM

Monseigneur, les entretiens que vous accordez se finissent toujours par la même question...
PA: Ah oui, je devine : Allez-vous vous marier ? Eh bien, je vais vous répondre. Je ne m'imagine pas seul trop longtemps, j'aurai une famille, je suis sûr que je trouverai un jour...

Monsignor, the discussions which you grant always finish by the same question...
PA: Ah yes, I guess: Are you going to get married? Oh well, I am going to answer you. I do not imagine myself alone too much longer, I'm going to have a family, I am sure that one day I'll find...
--> the right person to marry?

Doesn't sound as if he has found this person already...

but who knows...

Lillia · #6 06-22-2006, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Poisonivy

Monseigneur, les entretiens que vous accordez se finissent toujours par la même question...
PA: Ah oui, je devine : Allez-vous vous marier ? Eh bien, je vais vous répondre. Je ne m'imagine pas seul trop longtemps, j'aurai une famille, je suis sûr que je trouverai un jour...

Monsignor, the discussions which you grant always finish by the same question...
PA: Ah yes, I guess: Are you going to get married? Oh well, I am going to answer you. I do not imagine myself alone too much longer, I'm going to have a family, I am sure that one day I'll find...
--> the right person to marry?

Doesn't sound as if he has found this person already...

but who knows...

Albert is good at baiting the press and keeping them jumping around.

I'll say one thing, I'd be surprised if he marries this girl. Even though the olympic thing was her accomplishment, I'd be surprised (not shocked though), if he was planning to marry her.

I mean, what else does she bring there? Anything?

Ghislaine · #7 06-22-2006, 05:24 PM

Albert has been saying for years that he will marry. In every interview he gave in the past year. And before that. If it was Rainier who was keeping him from marrying, surely Albert would have been engaged by now?

But I have to admit that his persistent assurance that he will marry has me puzzled. Maybe he's just extremely optimistic? :)

Lillia · #8 06-22-2006, 05:33 PM

Possibly. I think it's just not the way things are done for a Prince to say publically that he has no interest in marriage, whatever the reason. Now that he is the Monarch himself, he has to keep people positively interested in the principality and keeping the hope for a royal wedding is one way to do it.

that's not to say that he is not interested in marrying at all, but why should he be? He does not need to bother with it

Ghislaine · #9 06-22-2006, 05:51 PM

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that's not to say that he is not interested in marrying at all, but why should he be? He does not need to bother with it

Awww, that's not fair. I wish him to be happy, to have a lovely and caring wife and for them both to love each other very much.
Aside from the gay rumours and the fact that one can be a very happy single.

norwegianne · #10 06-22-2006, 06:15 PM

I think that anything written can be interpreted in many ways. Unless we were there, or saw the interviews on television, we have no way of knowing if Albert was serious, or if he was sarcastic - that's one of the problems with the written word.

leahteresa · #11 06-22-2006, 08:49 PM

If Albert came out and said he was NEVER going to marry, he would have a much harder time with the ladies. He's got GREAT and I mean GREAT game with the whole "I need to produce and heir you might be it" line. What man would ever let that go....

julianneneville · #12 06-22-2006, 09:03 PM

I really see no evidence that PA is marriage adverse. From past articles and interviews, it just seems that he has had a lot of bad luck with women. I think he is perhaps more of a romantic than we give him credit for. And it must be very difficult for him to find someone real that is suitable and loves him. Personally, I hope that he finds his Camilla and not his Diana.

Lillia · #13 06-22-2006, 09:16 PM

I agree, he probably can sweep a woman off her feet. He's a Prince and he's handsome and he's a billionaire, so why would he not be able to charm just about anyone!

I think he's had trouble becuase of the type of woman he continues to pick on his own -- he could easily choose different type of person. He has lots of people around him who could find a 'suitable' mate and not someone who tends to be starry eyed, grasping and desperate, or married, or not educated with limited goals. After all, if he can send his guys out to pick up some woman in a crowd then he could just as easily ask his people to find someone with a little class too.

pinklady1991 · #14 06-22-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lillia

I agree, he probably can sweep a woman off her feet. He's a Prince and he's handsome and he's a billionaire, so why would he not be able to charm just about anyone!

I think he's had trouble becuase of the type of woman he continues to pick on his own -- he could easily choose different type of person. He has lots of people around him who could find a 'suitable' mate and not someone who tends to be starry eyed, grasping and desperate, or married, or not educated with limited goals. After all, if he can send his guys out to pick up some woman in a crowd then he could just as easily ask his people to find someone with a little class too.

I agree with you Lillia, but perhaps there is a little bit of insecurity underlying all of his choices. Albert has often said that fairly or unfairly any wife of his would be compared to his mother. Perhaps deep down he feels he is not worthy of someone who fits the generally accepted idea of what a princess should be (i.e, his mother) or he feels that it would be unfair to find someone suitable but who would never be able to attain the romanticized ideal his mother became so why put someone through that? So maybe he decided to pick someone so far off base that she won't be compared to anyone but herself (although with the current crop of amazing princesses, I don't see that happening either). JMO.

Neat2912 · #15 06-23-2006, 03:17 PM

I guess at the prince says-he'll let you know. But I'm bewildered that he displayed so much affection, interest, respect (except for the Olympic fiasco). I just really thought/think she is his choice. And actually, she just might be his soul mate. People don't really know what he really needs/wants. He's done a lot of parading women for show,etc. I would bet this woman fits into his scheme/view, his down to earth person.

And perhaps 6 months or so is just too eager beaverish, to make an announcement. If she's not the one I'd bet he couldn't come any closer to what he/himself/his personality needs or wants. Signed a great big IMO

Lunagirl · #16 06-23-2006, 04:53 PM

Oh Prince Albert, you like to keep us guessing, don't you?

leahteresa · #17 06-23-2006, 10:05 PM

Do not forget it takes a quality person to attract a quality person. However, if PA is baiting the press with no intention of marriage then he may just pick and choose women whom he is likely to have a good time with then move on.

The thing that gets me about interviews in French is that much can be lost in translation, especially tone and intent.

Lillia · #18 06-26-2006, 05:55 PM

Well, if I were being asked the same questions again and again over the years by the press, I would have a canned answer ready to give them too, just so they could make what they want of it and go on to something else:)

I could imagine he finds it tiresome

Zora · #19 06-26-2006, 07:07 PM

I have read the Point de Vue interview and I must say that I am perplexed by it. While French is my first language, I don't have the tone or intent. From a strictly semantical point of view

PA doesn't sound like someone who is about to announce an engagement or even a formal companion (I know about CW being refered to as his official companion). Then again, he certainly doesn't have to disclose any details of his personal life and/or wedding plans. It is still very interesting to wait and see what happens.

leahteresa · #20 06-26-2006, 07:35 PM

Thanks for you viewpoint as a french speaker. I try to be sensive to the loss that can occur. I also picked up that the "official companion" might have been something in someone in the palace refered to her as, not necessarily "official title" stuff.

IMO....CW is on the way out....the Maldives pics were in very poor taste and her remarks to the press not so smart. Just my specuation, I have no proof but I cannot image him marrying someone who's public image has to salvaged after the nuptuals rather than the other way around.