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Old 06-01-2006, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Elspeth
Well, we could speculate that the acknowledgement of paternity was a step on the road to clearing the way for an engagement announcement, or we could speculate that the talk of an engagement announcememt was a way to distract people's attention from the Jazmin business. If you have two major things going on at once, it distracts people's attention from focusing on one of them exclusively.

Since we don't know which of the speculations is correct, we'll just have to wait and see how the Albert-Charlene relationship develops.
Very brilliant the way you put this, Elspeth.
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[quote=paca]I am going to lean myself out of the window here, but someone said somewhere that CW might just be a rouse and in light of recent developments, I think there might be sth to it....quote]I'm totally with paca on this one. It is conceivable to me that they would arrange for her to get publicity, and for him to distance himself from NC. A marriage at this point would be not only premature, but could have disastrous results if it is short-lived. At this point, I can only imagine how PA's credibility is sinking, so he would be well-advised to wait on marriage. But, as Elspeth put it--we'll have to wait and see.
Old 06-02-2006, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by AquaMarine
I beg to differ, Jabilo (I mean marked words). I believe that there are intelligent and sane women with a wordly-wisdom and good heart, who are able to fall in love with PA (not only because of his wallet and title), take the risk of marrying him and connect their future with his country. Among such things as money and fame there are so many other interesting things as political, social and cultural actions to be involved with, that I think it would be too boring to refuse them being just a wife smiling and waving from the balcony. It would be boring not only for her, but also for PA...with time...But a good wife could rescue not only him, but change situation in his country for the better, improve its image and try to restore cracked relationships with other Royal Houses. There is heap of work to do! May be I am very imaginative, but why not at long last?! PA dreams about "excellence" in his country and I think his future wife shall be the first step in that direction

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Aquamarine, do you believe Albert has met the proper woman to do this?
:) Freedom, I don't know if PA had ever met the proper woman, but I believe in her existence. We all have our soulmates, another question - where are they? Sometimes we don't notice that someone special right under our very nose, but trying to look behind the horizon. Who knows where is that "heroic lady" who is able to turn over all the world of PA
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Old 06-02-2006, 08:54 AM
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What a shame! This is all very unfortunate. Why has this family always done things that are not appropriate? Even their ancestors did embarassing things. I also think it is the type of environment they have grown up in. The French Riviera is a very liberal place and it has influenced the behavior of the Monegasque princely family. Very different to the environment the other royals live in. A much more conservative atmosphere. Prince Rainier and Princess Grace had 3 rebellious and defiant children who would rather be independent than live by the rules of being a royal. They have had a very priviledged life and sometimes that does spoil a child. Thank God that Princess Caroline has finally settled into the responsible and giving humanitarian that she is now. But look at all the headaches she gave her parents and look at how liberal her children are. Princess Stephanie also has had her share of lovers and has embarassed her family many times, but now is settling into a more serious life. So it doesn't surprise me that Prince Albert would also do shameful things. But it is time to grow up and think about the future of his country. But, let's face it. He is running out of time to have children. Charlene is young and can give him many children eventhough she doesn't seem suitable for the role of Princess of Monaco. She is very pretty and I am sure makes him feel good to have this beauty by his side. Hopefully, she will be polished and educated to carry this role to the best of her abilities. Let's hope they love each other because they will need love to endure what might come next. I wish they had all choosen different lives and had made better partner choices and brought prestige to their country. But they have trashed it and will need God's help and their country's to make a success out of this mess.
Old 06-02-2006, 09:11 AM
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There has been many rumours that the Grimaldi's were cursed. IM beginning to believe this. Albert will never find a suitable wife.This familiy is a disgrace!
Old 06-02-2006, 11:06 AM
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I'm not sure I like Charlene, there's no spark to her... no glitter!
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Old 06-02-2006, 07:15 PM
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Last paragraph of the article

"Albert is currently dating Charlene Wittstock, a former Olympic swimming champion from South Africa. According to the Times UK, the palace in Monaco has played down rumours of an imminent marriage, but have acknowledged Miss Wittstock as Albert's "official companion"."
Old 06-02-2006, 07:40 PM
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I've just deleted a whole lot of posts that had nothing whatever to do with the thread topic. People wanting to talk about Andrea are welcome to do so in the correct forum.

This is the thread to discuss Charlene Wittstock's current events.


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Old 06-02-2006, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GlitteringTiaras
I have to disagree with you.
People would, perhaps, be open to a woman who would be suitable as PA wife. By this I mean a woman who is discrete, accomplished in some area, educated, polite, and someone who carries herself with some degree of dignity...
I have to agree with pinkylou that people will not agree with anywoman PA chooses to be with. That is just how it is. Well at least anywoman he dates or wants to marry will go through the same thing we have gone through on these boards. Most people will hate her some will support her but no matter who he marries even CW, i am sure she will grow on all us eventually and we will start to like her and sort of understand her. Because now when we write all these things here even though it does not matter to PA, when more of us have the same sentiments we imagine that maybe PA will see it too and move one to what we believe is ideal but once he marries then its a done deal and we have to give her a chance to proove herself one way or another. For now i am leaning towards the possibility that charlene is the one. Its a ghut feeling just like i had about jazmin being his daughter.
Old 06-04-2006, 08:13 AM
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the first not so positive article about them
Old 06-04-2006, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by paca
the first not so positive article about them
I used "Babel Fish" to translate but still don't understand some of it.
They say in the article Charlene is a "anti-aschenputtel."
What does that mean?
Thank You so much Paca--:)
Its good to read a different point of view.

By Stefan hauck
Monaco - fairy tales become sometimes true. But really only sometimes. In this case for example not: Because indifferently, as the relationship between the Schwimmsportlerin Charlene Wittstock (28) and the dwarf state State of Albert II. goes out - Charlene is not Cinderella, to the Aschenputtel is suited it not.

The rest of the article gives serious points to consider whether the match is a healthy one.
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Aschenputtel is the German titel of Cinderella.
Old 06-04-2006, 12:05 PM
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Does anyone know if Charlene is still in Monaco?
Old 06-04-2006, 01:04 PM
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I haven't seen her and I haven't seen anymore pic. The mare nostrum is here. I suppose if she was attending, after her official outing the local paper would show a picture.
Old 06-04-2006, 01:17 PM
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I don't think we can say anymore that any woman is unsuitable to be the princess of monaco with Albert in charge. Charlene makes him look old, bald and fat but he doesn't have the personal consciousness to know this and he never will. Someone also mentioned that she is scandal-free. At this point, it is the best we can hope for. I still feel it's a train-wreck waiting to happen but...whatever.
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It's time to close this thread. You can find the new one here.
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