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12-05-2005, 09:18 AM
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Ok I understand it to be SPH-ER-EH I am close or way off.
And well I'm getting prononciations can I get Haakon to ?
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12-05-2005, 09:26 AM
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Having heard the name pronounced, I must admit that I do quite like it.
I am simply baffled though by the HRH decision. It doesn't make sense that the child of the heir/Crown Prince doesn't have the title of HRH.
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12-05-2005, 09:27 AM
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Over at the GREMB and the SRMB they say that the name is pronounced like this.
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Posted by Frank Johansen on 5/12/2005,
I'll try to describe it: SV - more like SPHere than SWitzerland.
ERR - as in ERRor.
E - as an ending EH-sound.
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12-05-2005, 09:46 AM
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ok so more like SPH-AIR-EH. Either way it sounds way better then how I first was saying it. (Let's just say it sounded like the little prince was destined to be an eville Potions teacher at Hogwarts)
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12-05-2005, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Alisa
Having heard the name pronounced, I must admit that I do quite like it.
I am simply baffled though by the HRH decision. It doesn't make sense that the child of the heir/Crown Prince doesn't have the title of HRH.
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It could be possible that this is to help the 3 kids be treated equally. Haakon did say in the interview a few weeks ago that that is what they want to do with IA understanding her role as a future monarch.
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12-05-2005, 10:07 AM
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Maybe they dont believe that the monarchy will last that long. They probably want him to be able to carve out his own life so he is set in case the monarchy ends. Sad IMO. I think he should be HRH by birth right and tradition.
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12-05-2005, 10:16 AM
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A video from Side 2 about what people thinks about the name(its free)
http://webtv.tv2.no/webtv/main.do?tr...1&progId=66896
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12-05-2005, 10:19 AM
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I love the name! it got some personality
When we're be able to see the first family picture???
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12-05-2005, 10:22 AM
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I am interested to know why they decided to NOT give the new baby the HRH. From my POV there might be some problems in furture if they treat IA differently because she is the heir and not like her brothers. My concern is that the other children might feel slighted about the difference. Truth be told, IA will be treated differently precisely because she is the Heir.
I understand about the King wanting to limit the size of the Royal family but this seems to be a radical decision. Couldn't htye have made the child an HH
instead?
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12-05-2005, 10:33 AM
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*is amused*
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Originally Posted by norwegianne
Sverre would be a nice name - the Norwegian king who was born at the Faroe Islands
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Posted 10/19 -2005.
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Originally Posted by Gloriana
Prince Sverre of Norway... has a nice ring to it.
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same date.
But the best of all has to be this one.By GömdNatt:
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Although now that I've seen it, Sverre looks interesting. Magnus would be good too, but kind of similar to Marius...
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That's some pretty good guessing, there...
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ghlight=sverre
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12-05-2005, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by linda85
I am interested to know why they decided to NOT give the new baby the HRH. From my POV there might be some problems in furture if they treat IA differently because she is the heir and not like her brothers. My concern is that the other children might feel slighted about the difference. Truth be told, IA will be treated differently precisely because she is the Heir.
I understand about the King wanting to limit the size of the Royal family but this seems to be a radical decision. Couldn't htye have made the child an HH
instead?
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I think it is, a bit connected to the problems Märtha Louise faced when she wanted to make a career - and they want Sverre Magnus to avoid facing similar problems, as much as possible. It puts him in a much more free position. Ultimately it is the king who decides who gets which titles, most likely in discussion with the parents, and there's not much anybody else can do about it.
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12-05-2005, 10:41 AM
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Thanks for the reply Norwegianne!
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12-05-2005, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Princejonnhy25
Maybe they dont believe that the monarchy will last that long. They probably want him to be able to carve out his own life so he is set in case the monarchy ends. Sad IMO. I think he should be HRH by birth right and tradition.
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I don't think it is a matter of them thinking about the monarchy ending, it is simply that Norway doesn't have a tradition of having scores of titled nobility and younger sons of royalty around.
Back when it was the case in Norway, they all killed each other, in fighting for the throne, so it was quite easy to get a managable royal family. Nowadays one has to resort to other, slightly more civilized measures.
It's more of a measure that allows him to do, somewhat, what he wants with his life, and not having to represent.
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12-05-2005, 10:59 AM
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In addition to their considerations regarding Martha Louise, do you think it is also to put Marius on a more level playing field with his half-siblings?
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12-05-2005, 11:03 AM
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So what's his surname? Does he have one?
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12-05-2005, 11:15 AM
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So what's his surname? Does he have one?
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He's just Prince Sverre Magnus. No surname.
A thought from me would be it might be possible in the future to style himself with Mette-Marit's maiden name, as Marius does, or use Haakonsen (son of Haakon), if he wants to distance himself even further careerwise. I guess it depends on the career, though.
Glücksburg - well, that kind of stands out.
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12-05-2005, 11:18 AM
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Weird. So not being a HRH makes him less conspicuous, but having no surname and the title of prince doesn't? Well. Still weird.
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12-05-2005, 11:19 AM
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Nice names Sverre Magnus:)
For me it's wrong that he haven't got HRH. He should be HRH!!!  They can't give him only HRH and nothing more - flags day etc.? I know that they (King?) want to have a small RF but it's really strange and unfair. RF for me mean - the King/Queen, his wife/husband and childrens and grandchildrens - but maybe not everyone?
- What will happen if someday Sverre meat other senior HRH princes/esses?
- Where will be his place?
- He will be curtsys to them or what?
Why it can't be like it is in Denmark? Ruler's children are HRH and HRH is only for the CP children - prince Frederick son. The prince Joachim boys are only HH.
Maybe his dad when he become a king someday decide to give Sverre a HRH?
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12-05-2005, 11:22 AM
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i'm wondering what is the real difference between a HRH or non-HRH?
apanage, status, or what?
the only thing i notice is that they used HRH, HSH, HH, etc only & make a difference between each one are on royal events (when there's a wedding, funeral, etc - like in denmark, HH Alexandra comes after HRH Mary etc). but i could be wrong...
so, i'm asking what's the consequence of being a HRH on daily life? Does it really restrict them to have freedom? as i recall, Haakon & Martha-Louise had a very good upbringing, and ML choose what she wants to do.
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12-05-2005, 11:23 AM
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I am disappointed at the new Prince's lack of HRH title. The royal family is making their family less and less royal. If the third in line to the throne is not entitled to be styled HRH why even bother to have a royal system. Once little Ingrid is queen - and sometimes fate plays cruelly with us and she may be very young - she will not have anyone for support of equal status. To just have a Prince as regent when she is out of the country is very strange.
The republicans must be very happy now.
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