Marius Borg Hoiby Current Events: November 12, 2002 - January 30, 2006 - Page 5

Lena · #81 03-14-2005, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by norwegianne

Marius became big brother for the second time when his step-mother gave birth to a son on Saturday, VG reports.

Is the name of the boy in the meanwhile known?

The O.C. Fanatic · #82 05-02-2005, 09:29 PM

Mr. Hoilby is so adoreable (and tall looks like) I think he's going to grow up and be a Norwigian male supermodel. You can all ready tell that he's going to have kids all over Oslo

norwegianne · #83 05-26-2005, 04:32 AM

The German tabloids have shifted their attention from Haakon and Mette-Marit to Marius, according to VG. They're now telling lies about how he is closed out from the royal family and it has caused him to get a depression. Their evidence: Marius walked with his class in the parade instead of standing on the steps of Skaugum. They also claim to know how Marius' thoughts about it. And that's just the top of the iceberg.

Haakon and Mette-Marit, who wouldn't sue the German press when it was just them, may be considering suing after having seen several of the front pages of the magazines, according to Astrid Versto, information manager at the Court. They don't like how the focus are on a child who can't protect himself: Marius.

http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=104863

Alexandria · #84 05-26-2005, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by norwegianne

The German tabloids have shifted their attention from Haakon and Mette-Marit to Marius, according to VG. They're now telling lies about how he is closed out from the royal family and it has caused him to get a depression. Their evidence: Marius walked with his class in the parade instead of standing on the steps of Skaugum. They also claim to know how Marius' thoughts about it. And that's just the top of the iceberg.

Haakon and Mette-Marit, who wouldn't sue the German press when it was just them, may be considering suing after having seen several of the front pages of the magazines, according to Astrid Versto, information manager at the Court. They don't like how the focus are on a child who can't protect himself: Marius.

http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=104863

Good for Haakon and Mette-Marit for standing up for Marius and taking real action against the German tabloids. I find it incredulous how magazines and writers can live with themselves when they not just make up false stories to sell magazines and newspapers, but to make the subject of such lies and falsehoods an innocent child.

kwanfan · #85 05-26-2005, 10:27 AM

Yes, good for Haakon & Mette-Marit. Tabloids are so ridiculous. Marius is not royal, so they should leave him alone. I can't imagine being so young and having the tabloids write things about me.

eireann · #86 05-26-2005, 11:25 AM

I don't think MM and Haakon have really shifted attention from Marius to Ingrid (apart from the obvious need that a new baby demands) - it's more likely the photographers attention has switched from Marius to Ingrid. Marius still gets press coverage and I'm sure when he enters his teenage years he'll be happy if he's not the subject of attention at all. This was my first time to read this thread and it's really amazing how he has grown over the years..

KikkiB · #87 05-26-2005, 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=eireann]I don't think MM and Haakon have really shifted attention from Marius to Ingrid (apart from the obvious need that a new baby demands) - it's more likely the photographers attention has switched from Marius to Ingrid. [QUOTE]

Hear, hear! That is just the case! I so agree with you :)

Reina · #88 05-26-2005, 12:51 PM

I find it amazing that these ppl have and raise kids if they do. (the tabloid ppl of course)

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Originally Posted by Alexandria

Good for Haakon and Mette-Marit for standing up for Marius and taking real action against the German tabloids. I find it incredulous how magazines and writers can live with themselves when they not just make up false stories to sell magazines and newspapers, but to make the subject of such lies and falsehoods an innocent child.

carlota · #89 05-26-2005, 02:24 PM

that's a really good comment reina.
i don't know if it's true or not but it's quite sad they tell stories of a kid for a living.

Dennism · #90 05-26-2005, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexandria

Good for Haakon and Mette-Marit for standing up for Marius and taking real action against the German tabloids. I find it incredulous how magazines and writers can live with themselves when they not just make up false stories to sell magazines and newspapers, but to make the subject of such lies and falsehoods an innocent child.

Yes, bravo to them. It´s amazing but the editor of one of the tabloids said that he doesn´t think it will be a problem for Marius because he doesn´t speak German and you can´t buy the taboid in Norway. Also, he acknowledged that there is a bit of fantasy in every one of the stories that the taboids publishes. Something like that. I hope they don´t get sued. They could use such a statement against him.

Ms Layevska · #91 05-26-2005, 09:52 PM

That's sad.

andr · #92 05-27-2005, 12:44 AM

Actually. Those german Marius storries are really rubbish. He was at his real father that day, as usual for kids in norway witch both perents don't live together. And he looked really happy when he walked along with his class in the parade and waved to his mom and sister.

I belive it good for Marius to get a little attention from the photographers. It ain't easy to grow up and be the next nowegian queens big brother, and being "a nobody". I think Haakon and Mette-Marit and the staff around them know that wery well and are doing the best they can for him.

KikkiB · #93 05-27-2005, 03:27 AM

Actually, you can get hold of (some of) these German tabloid magazines in Norway. The Narvesen kiosks (most of them anyway) have a variety of good and bad foreign magazines and publications. And in a few years Marius (most likely) will learn German in school, so it would be smart to stop these magazines, one way or antother, before he learns German.

carlota · #94 05-27-2005, 11:13 AM

do norwegian children lean german at school...?

norwegianne · #95 05-27-2005, 11:34 AM

When Norwegian children reach 8th grade, they have the choice between learning German or French as a third language in school. Some schools are also offering other choices, such as Spanish. There have been talk about making the third language mandatory, unlike its current situation, where it is an elective cource. (Elective that most pick, but...)

carlota · #96 05-27-2005, 11:38 AM

i was now thinking about marius' future as we were talking about languages...

do you think he will have some kind of "diplomatic" activities or that he will just study a degree and probably get a job in a really important company as he is son and brother of queens?
it's quite a strange situation.

another thing... does marius study in a public or private school? was anything written about how his life changed after being the son of the crown princess?

norwegianne · #97 05-27-2005, 12:20 PM

Marius' future is fairly wide open, and what he makes of it.

Marius attends a public Norwegian school, just outside Skaugum. He has a couple of security guards. It's hard to say how much his life has changed.

Of course, there is always how much he remembers of his normal life from before Mette-Marit met Haakon.

lsme · #98 05-27-2005, 05:03 PM

I just want to make a comment about Marius's status in the Royal Family. I was very upset when I went on line and read the "Official" biographies of Mette Marit and Haakon on the Royal website. Mette Marit's starts off with her husband and royal child being mentioned right off the bat. And I am sure that when the new "royal" child arrives he or she will be listed immediately. Then it goes on to tell about her family, her schooling, her hobbies and any other piece of trivia that the Royal Family thinks important to tell about her. Finally at the very last sentence they mention the fact that Oh yes, she has a son named Marius. Thank God that she doesn't have any favorite pets or Marius would be even lower on the list. How can a so called loving mother allow her child to be mentioned as a footnote to her life? And Haakon's is even worse. According to his biography, Marius doesn't even exist. God spare Marius from such loving and devoted parents as Mette Marit and Haakon. Don't they think that an 8 year old will ever go on line and read these biographies and realize just how little importance and value the Royal Family seems to think he has in his mother's and step father's lives. Maybe the German tabloids are not as off base as the Royal Family would like us to believe.

Alexandria · #99 05-27-2005, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lsme

I just want to make a comment about Marius's status in the Royal Family. I was very upset when I went on line and read the "Official" biographies of Mette Marit and Haakon on the Royal website. Mette Marit's starts off with her husband and royal child being mentioned right off the bat. And I am sure that when the new "royal" child arrives he or she will be listed immediately. Then it goes on to tell about her family, her schooling, her hobbies and any other piece of trivia that the Royal Family thinks important to tell about her. Finally at the very last sentence they mention the fact that Oh yes, she has a son named Marius. Thank God that she doesn't have any favorite pets or Marius would be even lower on the list. How can a so called loving mother allow her child to be mentioned as a footnote to her life? And Haakon's is even worse. According to his biography, Marius doesn't even exist. God spare Marius from such loving and devoted parents as Mette Marit and Haakon. Don't they think that an 8 year old will ever go on line and read these biographies and realize just how little importance and value the Royal Family seems to think he has in his mother's and step father's lives. Maybe the German tabloids are not as off base as the Royal Family would like us to believe.

I think the prominence of Marius's mention as part of Mette-Marit and Haakon's biography at the royal family's official website matters little in context of how much Mette-Marit and Haakon care for him and how inclusive he is part of their family. From the pictures I have seen, whether it's skiing or attending private family celebrations, Marius is very much a part of Haakon, Mette-Marit and Ingrid Alexandra's family, and does not seem to be excluded at all.

I think there is a tricky balancing act the Norwegian royal court must act upon: They must not exclude Marius as he is part of his mother's life before Haakon and part of their family now, but he is also not an official member of the royal family. The Norwegian royal court has to try and balance those who favour the monarchy, warts and all, and those who want the monarchy abolished for its warts.

So long as Marius isn't excluded from the family, it could matter less to me if Marius is mentioned in the first line of Mette-Marit's biography, whether he's given a long-winded paragraph, or mentioned in the very last line.

norwegianne · #**100** 05-27-2005, 06:17 PM

What is also important to note about these biographies, in addition to what Alexandria said, is that they don't rewrite all of them every time something new happens. They merely add on. Mette-Marit's biography was, I think, first written before the wedding, and things have been added on since then. Haakon's was from before then, and things have been added on.

It is also that Marius isn't a part of the official royal family. Haakon and Mette-Marit has stated that from the beginning, and that also means that they don't want him in the media's spotlight unless absolutely necessary. He is supposed to grow up like any normal Norwegian child. It is an advantage he has. It doesn't say anything about how much his parents love him, how many times he has been mentioned on their official webpage. My dad doesn't mention me on his professional webpages, but I don't doubt that he loves me, to put a more personal spin on it.

And in addition to the pictures of only Haakon, Mette-Marit, Marius & Ingrid Alexandra, Marius also seeemed to be comfortable around Maud Angelica and the other members of the family at the Christmas photo-shoot this year, suggesting that they do spend some time together.