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11-17-2003, 03:40 PM
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I think the baby will be born this week or next week, if it will be born next week , than I think the baby will be born on November 24.  close sources around the royal court are claiming that the couple will have a twin, 2 baby boys. :P
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11-17-2003, 06:09 PM
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I don't know if any of you read the tabloids here but there is something else about cp Maxima, according to sources there were 2 cradles delivered at the home of Maxima and WA  and there is a hard rumour that it is not A baby but babIES (like Laura Lovec said). Don't shoot me if it's not true.
ps. there was this rumour that the Dutch royal family wasn't that rich, don't feel sorry for them, the costs of the 2 cradles was about as much as the price of a mediumsize house! (probably 150.000 eur or something like that.)
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11-17-2003, 08:01 PM
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Wouldn't they have mentioned that they were having twins then? Maybe they just wanted two cradles in different rooms...I mean, that is a BIG palace.
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11-17-2003, 09:08 PM
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How on earth could anyone spend that much on a cradle? They'd have to be solid gold or something!
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11-17-2003, 09:39 PM
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the cradles are probably imported, and then - seeing everyone knows who the end-user was to be - got in the loop too .... that is, its my experience, that the price doubles from one buyer to the next buyer ....
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11-18-2003, 08:26 AM
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WA and Maxima probably don't buy secondhand stuff. And the cradles are so expensive because of the cloth that is used to cover it, it's the most expensive silk in the entire world!
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11-18-2003, 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by Robbert@Nov 18th, 2003 - 7:26 am
And the cradles are so expensive because of the cloth that is used to cover it, it's the most expensive silk in the entire world!
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I hope the baby (or babies) will appreciate it :P
I think I would deny it too, if I would expect twins. Just imagine the wooooooww-effect, if there would be really two babies. And imagine, how great it would be, if they would really get identical twins. One would be crown prince(ss) and one not.
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11-18-2003, 10:41 AM
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If one has the money, two cradles doesn't seem unreasonable; one could be for them, one for the parents, or their vacation house, or even one upstairs and downstairs. Most people I know don't buy a cradle because the baby outgrows it in just a few months. They just go for the crib.
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11-18-2003, 01:21 PM
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Hmmm...twins...could be interesting when this birth occurs...
I think if it were me (as it is I'm the oldest twin) and I were the youngest twin born into a royal family, to a CP I would feel kind of jipped...I think it would just be simpler to be born a year or two later, rather then being the same age, born the same day, quite possibly look the same and not receive the title CP simply because I was born a minute or so later then my sibling.
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11-18-2003, 02:39 PM
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Hi!
Is Princess Maxima really expecting twins, or is it all gossip?
The poor lady did look rather big at the opening of parliament...
What does the headline on your magazine say please, Linda?
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11-18-2003, 02:48 PM
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i think this is all big fabrication by the media, very hasty to draw conclusions now.
remeber: twins have to already be in your family (unless one is on fertility drugs). has maxima got twins in her family? not to my knowledge. beatrix' sister's case doesnt have any influence what so ever.
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11-18-2003, 02:51 PM
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Twins are commonly determined from the father's side of the family to be passed on; so even if there were twins in Maxima's immediate family - like two of her siblings are twins - that wouldn't have as much of an effect as Willem's family having twins.
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11-18-2003, 03:06 PM
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alexandra, thank you for clearing this up, how embarassing, i was convinced that it had something to do with female ability to seperate eggs in early state etc...but then, i am not a doctor at all, so please accept my appology and thanks for clarfying it for everyone else.
also, hadnt paid attention to maximas family all that much, should rather keep quiet and read more...  :(
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11-18-2003, 03:10 PM
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I'm not linda but I can translate it for you. It says "How the dentist of the court seduced Maxima". It has nothing to do with the twins story, but with the scientology stuff.
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Although commonly determined by the fathers side of the family, I am a twin, and my father's family has no history of it...my mom's does, but it was years and years ago...the doctors told my mom before we were born, that the length of years between her previous ancestor and her was to far away for it to even be considered history, so we were just a little surprise with no "historical" reasoning...so it could be possible, although I would think the Palace would have announced that earlier, when they announced that Maxima was pregnant.
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Alexandria are you 100% sure, that the man is the determining part? Because I think it´s rather a question of genes, which can be "inherited" of both sides. So you have one chromosome set of each parent, and one can outweigh in the twin or non-twin question. I mean probably every woman has cycles in which two or more eggs mature (right word??), but it happens more often women, who have twins in the family.
My mother is a twin, and siblings of my grandma are twins too, and my great-grandmother has twin-siblings too. And doctors I ask say, that there is a far more higher likelihood, that I get twins too (aaaaaaaahhhh, two at once  )
And as far as I know, the identical-twin-formation is far more independent from your genes.
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Oh dear ... Lena with twins. Hard to imagine ! :flower:
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11-18-2003, 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by Lena@Nov 18th, 2003 - 3:45 pm
Alexandria are you 100% sure, that the man is the determining part? Because I think it´s rather a question of genes, which can be "inherited" of both sides.
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Well, I am not a hundred per cent sure, but I do recall distinctly the lesson in highschool biology class on DNA and figuring out genetic pre-dispositions, and I think there was a recent study released about the inheritence of certain genes, including twins, published sometime this summer.
I think predominantly it is men's sperm which carries the information that determines the sex of the baby and also twins tend to be inherited on the father's side of DNA. That is not to say that some twins don't occur "randomly" or by "fluke" when there is no history of twins on either the father or the mother's side of the family, or in the case of your mom's family where twins are so dominant that that gene dominates. It is like brown hair is a more dominant gene than blonde hair, but that's not to say that if everybody in your family and your husband's family has brown hair you couldn't have a child with blonde hair.
I just think that scientifically the twin gene is carried by fathers, but "mutations" could of course occur.
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you think Maxima have TWIN!
i dont think so! if she had one baby with carry or she would carry with twin!
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11-18-2003, 06:33 PM
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Thank you for the translation, Robbert!
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